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Smh. I was just pointing out how stupid djohns post was at #68.
What are you talking about??? He's kicking Brown's overrated sorry ass "kids" off the team. He is holding people accountable unlike Sumlin who is "developing men" LMAO. (i.e., letting thugs -- most of whom he recruited -- do whatever they want with no consequences).
Smh. I was just pointing out how stupid djohns post was at #68.
19 arrests in 2 years. Is aggy really that dumb?
Glass house.
19 arrests? that's ridiculous. they're makin' NFL teams look like choir boys.
Yes, Aggy is throwing stones from a glass house when you can't go five minutes without one of your players getting arrested
not sure that is that far off the norm. i can think of at least 12 horns arrested in that same time frame.
Sumlin is in his 3rd year in his program. The Ags that are being arrested are all his recruits with a good many of them coming from his 2012-13 class. Not sure how many were actually Sherman's kids, but it seems that you have lost about half of that class.
Now granted there is a huge gap between what the Ags are doing and what Saunders and Meander have done, the Ags, you can say were kids being kids, but what Saunders and Meander did was truly criminal, and I'm pretty sure most of us recognize this.
Now on the other hand we have Strong who has inherited a mess that Brown left and has come in and in 6 months has cleaned house by setting some core rules and expecting his players to live up to these rules. The ones that have not have been shown the door.
Now if Strong is also in year 3 and we are seeing 20 of his recruits getting arrested them I would say the same thing that we are saying about Sumlin. If I can compare the Ags right now to anyone it would be Texas back in 2007 and 2008 when we had a rash of kids being stupid and getting arrested and back then I questioned Brown and what he was doing and who was actually running the program the coaches or the players. The difference is that Brown had just won a championship and frankly there was no way he was going anywhere. Right or wrong he had skins on the wall and we loved him for it.
Does Sumlin have skins on the wall with you Ags to say he deserves the benefit of the doubt at this point? I know if the roles were reversed most of us Texas fans would say no.
Sumlin benching Manziel for a half against Rice tells you just how much of a hardass he is.
So if one longhorn makes an ignorant or foolish post, you in turn are required to do the same and are exempt for being a fool yourself? I do not understand the logic.
The pot arrests etc under the Mack era drew constant Aggie ire, jokes, etc and I don't believe that was in bad nature. Search for all the gif images etc Aggies made about the arrests. Or the OU guy masturbating etc. I don't see bad taste in making jokes about. If you read the affidavit for Sanders/Meander, yes I do believe it is something that is beyond making fun of. It's not just about the victims but about having discretion to know a violent rape isn't funny.
Actually the NCAA did that for allegedly signing autographs.
Nobody is making jokes about the rape or laughing at their expense; just jokes about the majority of your fanbase who all of a sudden don't find this topic so funny & interesting anymore.
i absolutely respect what strong is doing and i hope it works, for the sake of college football because for decades college athletes have been above any sort of reproach whatsoever. mack brown was guilty of it as i'm sure sherman was as well. and sumlin is off to a bad start with his level of tolerance. kids who want to smoke pot and party are probably going to choose a&m over texas if they see strong has a zero tolerance for any sort of drug use. i want strong to have a winning program with what he is doing and i would root for him if he sticks to his convictions but do not kid yourself. if texas continues to go 8-5 for the next three seasons, many texas exes will grow tired of the policy and strong will either be forced to dilute the policy (look the other way when it comes to pot and booze) or just hold on to his convictions (in which case he would probably be forced out). sumlin has dismissed the players who were charged with felons (aggravated robbery) but he has held on to the ones who had been charged with misdemeanors. he clearly would have kicked off saunders and meander as well.
as you mentioned the moral indignation towards the out of control players during the brown era was non-existent. texas fans are no different than the rest of the college football fan landscape. winning trumps all. that is why the moral high horse act of many texas fans is so disingenuous. but again, good luck to strong and i sincerely hope he can prove to the college football world that you can win with good kids and that you don't have to enable the bad ones.
Sorry to interrupt your Strong (and Texas) circle jerk (seems like that's all you post about lately tbh) but I can't help but think he would be a little more lenient if these were his own guys that he recruited. It's easy to kick off kids he didn't recruit, have zero relationship with, and probably don't really like as players to begin with. Fran did a lot of the same things when he got to A&M.
Simple case of weeding out the players you don't like and making examples out of the players you don't really see having a future there anyway.
that's one theory. maybe he is putting on a farce. jimmy johnson did the same when he was with the cowboys, cutting dumb asses like john roper and letting others like charles haley and michael irvin break every kind of law imaginable. but they were great players so it was tolerated. but that's pretty much my point. winning sanctions everything. strong may succeed with his low tolerance policy but most likely it will be a matter of time before he dilutes it out of necessity or gets fired. this doesn't mean i'm happy with sumlin's circus though. but i understand this comes with the territory. give me 60+ kids in any college much less those on a football team and i'm pretty sure some of them are going to be real assholes or d-bags. but it doesn't mean i have to like it or prefer it. and most of the texas posters in here are probably just trolling but if they are seriously offended by the antics at a&m then chances are that's just pure hypocrisy.
I personally think this is genius, cleaning house like this gives Strong a cover when they don't come close to winning at the rate their delusional fan base expects. He will point to it and say "we need time to put our players in place".The fan base will also use this excuse for a few years until they realize it's total bull . Sounds a lot like what Fran did tbh. Too many similarities for me to ignore. Not saying he will turn out as bad as Fran but let's hold off on parading him around like a saint because he kicked off a few teenagers he didn't even know.
i agree. if i had to bet on it, i would say strong either abandons his strict policies, weakens them or just never wins. texas can not survive on its brand name alone. those days are gone.
He's not even being that strict. He gave those ers months to get their together. He didn't come in and clean house. He laid out the ground work and it was up to the player if he wanted to be part of the team. He was a lot more lenient than I thought he was going to be.
Aggy talking about not coming close to passing expectations when they struggled to beat Duke WITH Manziel in the almighty Chick fil a bowl is hilarious.
Why is Clipper Nation obsessed with TAMU?
I think this is funnier:
Horn commits with Aggie offers (2):
DeShon Elliott LB 3 Star
Toby Weathersby OL 4 Star
Aggie commits with horn offers (13):
Jay Bradford RB 4 stars
Jordan Davis TE 4 stars
Justin Dunning DB 4 stars
Trevor Elbert OL 4 stars
Kingsley Keke DT 3 stars
Connor Lanfear OL 3 stars
James Lockhart DE 4 stars
DaMarkus Lodge WR 4 stars
Daylon Mack DT 4 stars
Kyler Murray QB 4 stars
Larry Pryor DB 4 stars
Kemah Siverand WR 4 stars
Keaton Sutherland OL 4 stars
Children, youre both irrelevant.
lol big victoria
I think this is funnier:
Kevin Sumlin
Good one
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