Get ready for the Thunderefs guys

[cd021]

Oh, and 36-20 FTs. Let's not let THAT get swept under the rug.

Jordan-6 fouls in 20 Minutes

Paul with 5 in 40 minutes (averaging 4 PF in 37 mpg this series, he averaged 2.5 to 36.5 in the RS)

Davis with 5 in 18 minutes

Barnes with 4

only Ibaka had more than 3 for OKC

that is eerily similar to the '12 WCF .OKC took 31 FTs and four Spurs players (Jackson, Duncan, Diaw and Ginobili) all had at least 4 fouls. Only 1 OKC player had more than 3 fouls (Westbrook)

[jARS mEsH sEt]

I know I'm in the minority here but I am actually perfectly OK with how the refs handled this play. Barnes fouled Jackson but the refs missed the call, ball goes out off of Jackson. The refs, knowing they can't call the foul now, do the best they can and give the ball to the Thunder. This stuff happens all the time earlier in games and never gets called out.

If the foul was actually called the Thunder would have gotten 2 FTs instead of possession but you can't make everything perfect.

Yes, but if the refs call a foul on that play that's only 2 free throws for OKC. The refs instead call a non-foul on CP3 to award Westbrick game winning free throws instead of game tying free throws.

[jARS mEsH sEt]

And then the refs don't call the foul on Reggie Jackson (in favor of CP3 - see last picture) to award the Clippers game winning free throws. So yes, it is a problem overall.

[peacemaker885]

Also probably in the minority, but like what Pop says, its a game of mistakes. In that last minute, I think that the Clippers committed more mistakes than OKC. One can't control the refs.

[Russ]

I know I'm in the minority here but I am actually perfectly OK with how the refs handled this play. Barnes fouled Jackson but the refs missed the call, ball goes out off of Jackson. The refs, knowing they can't call the foul now, do the best they can and give the ball to the Thunder. This stuff happens all the time earlier in games and never gets called out.

If the foul was actually called the Thunder would have gotten 2 FTs instead of possession but you can't make everything perfect.

These complaints about the refs always ignore the calls that went against the supposedly favored team.

It's like "what's mine is mine and what's yours is negotiable."

[poop]

Where's Sperm got?

Complete disgrace. Anyone who actually watched the game could see how one sided the officiating became

[r0drig0lac]

so really there are still people justifying the refs, because of the mistakes of LA? simply put, the only correct result would be the victory of LA (even with its errors), simple

[4down]

Yes Clippers choked no doubt about that.

But then again, the game was rigged.

This. Makes choking much more likely. Also makes younger and more athletic teams look infinitely more so when they are allowed more physicality.

It can be overcome, imo, but that type of 'game management' will unravel many a quality contender

[WildcardManu]

It was disgusting...I couldn't turn away.... Now let's hope OKC cashed in their bail out card for the playoffs.

[pgardn]

Where's Sperm got?

The first picture is one frame. He could have hit his arm before this particular frame.

Where is the sequence of frames?

[jARS mEsH sEt]

The first picture is one frame. He could have hit his arm before this particular frame.

Where is the sequence of frames?

Everywhere on the internet. We weren't shown a clear replay of the sequence.

[cd98]

Thunderrefs aren't getting special treatment versus L.A. But they did against the Grizzlies, and they will if they play Spurs or Portland.

[rude1_79]

ref tony brothers on call: TONY BROTHERS, NBA officiating crew chief (to a pool reporter): "When the ball goes out of bounds, the ball was awarded to Oklahoma City. We go review the play. We saw two replays. The two replays we saw were from the overhead camera showing down, and the one from under the basket showing the same angle but from a different view. And from those two replays, it was inconclusive as to who the ball went out of bounds off of. When it's inconclusive, we have to go with the call that was on the floor."

http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/p...ivers-3-2-lead

my question is who runs the video for the refs to see when its time to review video. why were they not shown the clearer side angle where it clearly goes off jacksons hands.

[ElNono]

That rule is a good one and I know it was not meant to be applicable to the Jackson/Barnes situation. I would like to see how it is written though. Jackson would not have lost the ball unless he was fouled in the first place. I do think the foul caused him to lose the ball, but it's clearly a foul on the wrong hand of two that had control. I think the rule was meant for the same hand mostly on rebounding. The wording here is important in the rule book.

The refs don't have that kind of la ude to make such a decision. The review is strictly to determine who touched the ball last.

[Clipper Nation]

Btw I always enjoyed watching Cp3 play as much as anyone in the league but his interview makes me appreciate him outside the court as well, very classy guy, not deflecting or making excuses...

He only wasn't making excuses this time because his choke was so embarrassing and obvious that he could never.... usually he blames his chokejobs on Blake or the coach

[Strategic]

I thought I saw Perkins put an "accidental" fist in a Clippers' face in the first quarter of game 5. Does anyone have a video on it?

[DrSteffo]

Im embarrassed for some bolded posters in this thread tbh...I think that BNSF suck donkey balls after Timvp and Bruno left tbh, with some exceptions.

[Spurminator]

Damn, sorry guys, I didn't mean to cause any lingering butthurt last night.

Y'all need to learn to handle dissenting opinions better... It's an important life skill.

[jARS mEsH sEt]

sperm got getting demolished.

[DrSteffo]

Damn, sorry guys, I didn't mean to cause any lingering butthurt last night.

Y'all need to learn to handle dissenting opinions better... It's an important life skill.

You need to learn to admit that you are wrong. I know you are not mature enough, just saying.

[spurs10]

That rule is a good one and I know it was not meant to be applicable to the Jackson/Barnes situation. I would like to see how it is written though. Jackson would not have lost the ball unless he was fouled in the first place. I do think the foul caused him to lose the ball, but it's clearly a foul on the wrong hand of two that had control. I think the rule was meant for the same hand mostly on rebounding. The wording here is important in the rule book.

Exactly! The ball didn't go out on the same hand Barnes touched. It's a very weak spin to an obvious bad call.

[Spurminator]

You need to learn to admit that you are wrong. I know you are not mature enough, just saying.

See, that's the thing with nuance. There is no right or wrong. There's popular opinion and unpopular. You guys get too worked up over disagreement.

And for what? Are we really supposed to lose sleep on behalf of the Clippers because an arguably bad call was partially responsible for their blowing a 13 point lead late in the fourth quarter?

I might feel worse for them if they were making a 13 point comeback and caught a bad break on a call, but in this case I'm not sure why so many of you are treating them like helpless victims. Or, worse, victims of a fix.

[DrSteffo]

See, that's the thing with nuance. There is no right or wrong. There's popular opinion and unpopular. You guys get too worked up over disagreement.

And for what? Are we really supposed to lose sleep on behalf of the Clippers because an arguably bad call was partially responsible for their blowing a 13 point lead late in the fourth quarter?

I might feel worse for them if they were making a 13 point comeback and caught a bad break on a call, but in this case I'm not sure why so many of you are treating them like helpless victims. Or, worse, victims of a fix.

Ok so not mature enough. Maybe you should complain some more about my grammar?

[Spurminator]

Ok so not mature enough. Maybe you should complain some more about my grammar?

"You still don't see things my way, you must be immature!"

And when did I complain about your grammar?

Dude, agree to disagree. Move on.

[poeticism707]

See, that's the thing with nuance. There is no right or wrong. There's popular opinion and unpopular. You guys get too worked up over disagreement.

And for what? Are we really supposed to lose sleep on behalf of the Clippers because an arguably bad call was partially responsible for their blowing a 13 point lead late in the fourth quarter?

I might feel worse for them if they were making a 13 point comeback and caught a bad break on a call, but in this case I'm not sure why so many of you are treating them like helpless victims. Or, worse, victims of a fix.

Not that I am saying this is you:

Funny, spoiled rich kids wtih too much money, attention, and no discipline whatsover, always thinks there is no right or wrong, that all things are relative, that morality is is imposed by society, blah, blah, blah...

Until they get robbed by some local thugs who also thought all things were relative.

Then then they go on the news, and cry about how they were "wronged."

Irony at it's finest.