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    U have my perm. to die The Batman's Avatar
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    Seeing how the chicken still lurks around.

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    Board Man Comes Home Clipper Nation's Avatar
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    Never mind that, what happens when it's James 3 alpha rings > TOSB Kirby 5 role-player rings?

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    Old sport KaiRMD1's Avatar
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    Never mind that, what happens when it's James 3 alpha rings > TOSB Kirby 5 role-player rings?
    You're worse than thunderup, ol' sport

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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    they'll resort to

    Kobe: 5
    TOSB Ginobili: 4

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    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
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    Cully's been dead ever since the board voted him off the island and I forced him to show his true colors towards Kool. Now you see Kool pathetically hanging around like the ol' head at the club and no one wants to listen to his broke a**

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    Jesus H. Parsons IrisHockey's Avatar
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    He already said Duncan retains the bag. He's coming back either way.

    Though if the Spurs win this year and the next, that'll be it for Cubby's internet career. He'll be 62.

    RIP Culburn, 1998-2015
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    Spur Forever urunobili's Avatar
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    Slam Duncan Kidd K's Avatar
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    Duncan's 4 is already > Kobe's 5. Duncan with 5 easily puts Duncan above Kobe in nearly every possible argument besides "who was the better scorer".

    Let's not forget Duncan has 2 MVPs and 3 Finals MVPs, while Kobe only has one questionable MVP win (Chris Paul deserved it more), and 2 Finals MVPs, one of which was also questionable (Gasol deserved it more).

    While if the Spurs won last year, it would've been 5 and 4 FMVPs for Duncan, not to mention WAY higher win% (best in NBA history or damn close), while being much higher than Kobe in advanced stats like defensive rating whereas Kobe's only high in time-intensive stuff like total points scored and bricks.

    Duncan beats the out of Kobe regardless and it's not even that close. Show me a basketball fan who would take Kobe over Duncan when starting a franchise and I'll show you a dumbass tbh.

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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    Cub refuses to lodge the asterisk.

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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    Duncan's 4 is already > Kobe's 5. Duncan with 5 easily puts Duncan above Kobe in nearly every possible argument besides "who was the better scorer".

    Let's not forget Duncan has 2 MVPs and 3 Finals MVPs, while Kobe only has one questionable MVP win (Chris Paul deserved it more), and 2 Finals MVPs, one of which was also questionable (Gasol deserved it more).

    While if the Spurs won last year, it would've been 5 and 4 FMVPs for Duncan, not to mention WAY higher win% (best in NBA history or damn close), while being much higher than Kobe in advanced stats like defensive rating whereas Kobe's only high in time-intensive stuff like total points scored and bricks.

    Duncan beats the out of Kobe regardless and it's not even that close. Show me a basketball fan who would take Kobe over Duncan when starting a franchise and I'll show you a dumbass tbh.
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    Duncan's 4 is already > Kobe's 5. Duncan with 5 easily puts Duncan above Kobe in nearly every possible argument besides "who was the better scorer".

    Let's not forget Duncan has 2 MVPs and 3 Finals MVPs, while Kobe only has one questionable MVP win (Chris Paul deserved it more), and 2 Finals MVPs, one of which was also questionable (Gasol deserved it more).

    While if the Spurs won last year, it would've been 5 and 4 FMVPs for Duncan, not to mention WAY higher win% (best in NBA history or damn close), while being much higher than Kobe in advanced stats like defensive rating whereas Kobe's only high in time-intensive stuff like total points scored and bricks.

    Duncan beats the out of Kobe regardless and it's not even that close. Show me a basketball fan who would take Kobe over Duncan when starting a franchise and I'll show you a dumbass tbh.
    T-Mac was the real MVP in 2003 (32/7/5 on 46/39/79)
    Manu was the real Finals MVP in 2005

    Based on deserving MVPs

    Regular season
    Kobe - 2 (06 should have been his, 07 is arguable)
    Duncan - 1

    Finals
    Kobe - 2
    Duncan - 2

    How about you compare each of their stats in the playoffs and Finals for each championship won and compare their best regular seasons. Kobe comes out on top.

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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    tell me more about how mcgrady > duncan because of free throw%

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    5-5 Deuce Bigalow's Avatar
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    tell me more about how mcgrady > duncan because of free throw%
    32.1/6.5/5.5 on 46/39/79 (scoring champ) vs. 23.3/12.9/3.9 on 51/27/71 tbh

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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    by raw numbers lebron has deserved mvp basically every year since his sop re season

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    He'll feel an extreme amount of cognitive dissonance, and he'll use logical fallacies to maintain his previous (erroneous) belief. What a tool

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    T-Mac was the real MVP in 2003 (32/7/5 on 46/39/79)
    Manu was the real Finals MVP in 2005

    Based on deserving MVPs

    Regular season
    Kobe - 2 (06 should have been his, 07 is arguable)
    Duncan - 1

    Finals
    Kobe - 2
    Duncan - 2

    How about you compare each of their stats in the playoffs and Finals for each championship won and compare their best regular seasons. Kobe comes out on top.
    Kobrick should have won regular season MVP in 2006?,,,,LMAO. Youre grasping with Duncan destroying Kobricks legacy.

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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    i've never seen a player from a 7 seed get mvp consideration

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    5-5 Deuce Bigalow's Avatar
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    Kobrick should have won regular season MVP in 2006?,,,,LMAO. Youre grasping with Duncan destroying Kobricks legacy.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76024

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    5-5 Deuce Bigalow's Avatar
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    i've never seen a player from a 7 seed get mvp consideration
    Not anymore since the media votes for it, but before when the players voted for it players have won the award with below 50-wins. Kareem won one with a 40-42 record.

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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    Not anymore since the media votes for it, but before when the players voted for it players have won the award with below 50-wins. Kareem won one with a 40-42 record.
    yeah and players on the losing side used to win finals mvp. peer voting is a horrible concept. the players are too busy practicing/playing to actually observe a season objectively. they face a given player 2-4 times a year and draw comparisons based on that

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    Nash averaged almost 20 and 10 in '06, Suns 54 wins and reached the WCF's. Kobrick,,,Lakers 45 wins,,,out in the 1st round,,,,by the Nash led Suns no less.

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    Nash averaged almost 20 and 10 in '06, Suns 54 wins and reached the WCF's. Kobrick,,,Lakers 45 wins,,,out in the 1st round,,,,by the Nash led Suns no less.
    Kobe...
    35.4 ppg - 8th highest alltime (highest since 1987-88)
    2 60-point games
    6 50-point games
    27 40-point games

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    Slam Duncan Kidd K's Avatar
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    T-Mac was the real MVP in 2003 (32/7/5 on 46/39/79)
    Manu was the real Finals MVP in 2005

    Based on deserving MVPs

    Regular season
    Kobe - 2 (06 should have been his, 07 is arguable)
    Duncan - 1

    Finals
    Kobe - 2
    Duncan - 2

    How about you compare each of their stats in the playoffs and Finals for each championship won and compare their best regular seasons. Kobe comes out on top.
    TMac was not the MVP. Players on ty teams with big stats don't deserve it. EXACTLY why Kobe didn't deserve it. It's Most Valuble Player award, not best stat padder on irrelevant teams award. Why do you think Kevin Love nearly missed the All Star game and Ellis and his 25 PPG seasons don't mean ? And LOL no Manu wasn't the Finals MVP in 2005, get the outta here with that .

    2005 Finals:

    Duncan: 25/15.5 2 BPG and GREAT defense in 2005 Finals
    Ginobil: 18.7/5.8/4

    It isn't even close. Manu also had multiple ty games, including 7/4/0 6 TO and 12/4/3 games. Duncan's worst game was still a double double with 3 steals thrown in.

    Kobe also does not come out on top in their playoff or reg season stat comparisons The only way you could possibly come to that ty conclusion is if you're ignoring defense, rebounds, and winning, and only looking at PPG.

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