Never mind that, what happens when it's James 3 alpha rings > TOSB Kirby 5 role-player rings?
Seeing how the chicken still lurks around.
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Never mind that, what happens when it's James 3 alpha rings > TOSB Kirby 5 role-player rings?
You're worse than thunderup, ol' sport
they'll resort to
Kobe: 5
TOSB Ginobili: 4
Cully's been dead ever since the board voted him off the island and I forced him to show his true colors towards Kool. Now you see Kool pathetically hanging around like the ol' head at the club and no one wants to listen to his broke a**
He already said Duncan retains the bag. He's coming back either way.
Though if the Spurs win this year and the next, that'll be it for Cubby's internet career. He'll be 62.
RIP Culburn, 1998-2015
Last edited by IrisHockey; 05-22-2014 at 08:30 PM.
Duncan's 4 is already > Kobe's 5. Duncan with 5 easily puts Duncan above Kobe in nearly every possible argument besides "who was the better scorer".
Let's not forget Duncan has 2 MVPs and 3 Finals MVPs, while Kobe only has one questionable MVP win (Chris Paul deserved it more), and 2 Finals MVPs, one of which was also questionable (Gasol deserved it more).
While if the Spurs won last year, it would've been 5 and 4 FMVPs for Duncan, not to mention WAY higher win% (best in NBA history or damn close), while being much higher than Kobe in advanced stats like defensive rating whereas Kobe's only high in time-intensive stuff like total points scored and bricks.
Duncan beats the out of Kobe regardless and it's not even that close. Show me a basketball fan who would take Kobe over Duncan when starting a franchise and I'll show you a dumbass tbh.
Cub refuses to lodge the asterisk.
Boiled down:::
T-Mac was the real MVP in 2003 (32/7/5 on 46/39/79)
Manu was the real Finals MVP in 2005
Based on deserving MVPs
Regular season
Kobe - 2 (06 should have been his, 07 is arguable)
Duncan - 1
Finals
Kobe - 2
Duncan - 2
How about you compare each of their stats in the playoffs and Finals for each championship won and compare their best regular seasons. Kobe comes out on top.
tell me more about how mcgrady > duncan because of free throw%
32.1/6.5/5.5 on 46/39/79 (scoring champ) vs. 23.3/12.9/3.9 on 51/27/71 tbh
by raw numbers lebron has deserved mvp basically every year since his sop re season
He'll feel an extreme amount of cognitive dissonance, and he'll use logical fallacies to maintain his previous (erroneous) belief. What a tool
Kobrick should have won regular season MVP in 2006?,,,,LMAO. Youre grasping with Duncan destroying Kobricks legacy.
i've never seen a player from a 7 seed get mvp consideration
Not anymore since the media votes for it, but before when the players voted for it players have won the award with below 50-wins. Kareem won one with a 40-42 record.
yeah and players on the losing side used to win finals mvp. peer voting is a horrible concept. the players are too busy practicing/playing to actually observe a season objectively. they face a given player 2-4 times a year and draw comparisons based on that
Nash averaged almost 20 and 10 in '06, Suns 54 wins and reached the WCF's. Kobrick,,,Lakers 45 wins,,,out in the 1st round,,,,by the Nash led Suns no less.
Kobe...
35.4 ppg - 8th highest alltime (highest since 1987-88)
2 60-point games
6 50-point games
27 40-point games
TMac was not the MVP. Players on ty teams with big stats don't deserve it. EXACTLY why Kobe didn't deserve it. It's Most Valuble Player award, not best stat padder on irrelevant teams award. Why do you think Kevin Love nearly missed the All Star game and Ellis and his 25 PPG seasons don't mean ? And LOL no Manu wasn't the Finals MVP in 2005, get the outta here with that .
2005 Finals:
Duncan: 25/15.5 2 BPG and GREAT defense in 2005 Finals
Ginobil: 18.7/5.8/4
It isn't even close. Manu also had multiple ty games, including 7/4/0 6 TO and 12/4/3 games. Duncan's worst game was still a double double with 3 steals thrown in.
Kobe also does not come out on top in their playoff or reg season stat comparisons The only way you could possibly come to that ty conclusion is if you're ignoring defense, rebounds, and winning, and only looking at PPG.
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