2014 NBA Finals - Game 2: Heat @ Spurs

[littleavery1948]

Spurs would have 11 Championships too if playing against those teams you played against. Take off all of those rings and stop flaunting them as you probably have none if not for all of those hall of famers on your team playing against teams that weren't loaded with hall of famers.

Same deal as Miami. Give prime Duncan a Wade and Bosh and he'd be ringing non stop.

I'm not impressed with Miami at all. A team loaded with talent going against a team mostly of role players and aging superstars. Spurs need to realize this too and stop playing around and take them out.

The Spurs are three plays away from having SEVEN championships, but WTF is with the choking. I am not impressed with Miami either, but the NBA is full of chokers. Everyone seems to forget how to rebound or shoot free-throws when they play Miami. The quality of play in the NBA is not good, at all. Lebron has no rival; there are only two superstars in the league. The other one is two tiers below the one who is playing in this series. Women's college hoops has more suspense than the NBA.

[Baam]

There's a major difference between guarding a spot-up players and guarding an on-ball player.

Anyway, it's not a meltdown. The stats show Diaw's not good on James. I wasn't saying that as endorsement of the idea, but rather to underline how ineffective Diaw has been.

Cause the stats says Kawhi is good? He's like a knife running through butter out there... I suggested some Green on Lebron the other night but really this is far from the main priority... You can't stop Lebron... Actually making him work on D would make more of a difference than who is guarding him... People forget Durant was exhausted and played 45min a game while getting posted by Boris... And then again he still dominated somewhat...

The main priority is shutting down Bosh, Wade and Allen and finding a way to score inside again...

[SpurPadre]

I see Manu, TP, Kawhi and Diaw getting killed for their play tonight but TD is getting a free pass. When you're the best overall player in franchise history and basically guarantee to win the championship this year, you don't miss two huge free throws in the 4th quarter, especially after you just saw one of your teammates miss two huge free throws. He also gambled late on defense and Bosh made him pay for it. While this was a team loss, if individuals are being singled out for choking, TD's name should be brought up too.

[Chinook]

Cause the stats says Kawhi is good? He's like a knife running through butter out there... I suggested some Green on Lebron the other night but really this is far from the main priority... You can't stop Lebron... Actually making him work on D would make more of a difference than who is guarding him... People forget Durant was exhausted and played 45min a game while getting posted by Boris... And then again he still dominated somewhat...

The main priority is shutting down Bosh, Wade and Allen and finding a way to score inside again...

Kawhi pretty much fought James to a draw last game. I have a feeling the numbers are going to be bad for his this game, but qualitatively speaking, I feel Leonard just got unlucky to be caught in James' GOAT inferno. Diaw just doesn't have it physically unless James takes him to the post. Boris was poor on Durant last series as well. He's not a combo-forward anymore. Pop needs to go ahead and keep wings on James and let Duncan, Diaw and Splitter help.

[Ditty]

Diaw looks night and day from the thunder series to this series. I don't like how is looking like last year being so passive. We need to win game three, and put a lot of pressure on Miami. We can beat these guys!

[dg7md]

Waiting for Eatdatpussy video rant on the lost

He's got some weak takes tbh... Makes me think he doesn't follow the team that much.

[Crookshanks]

Lebron leaving Game 1 is the only reason the Spurs aren't headed to Miami down 0-2.

That's bull! The Spurs were extremely hot in the 4th quarter (no pun intended) and I highly doubt Queen James would've made a 15 point difference.

[Ice009]

The Spurs are three plays away from having SEVEN championships, but WTF is with the choking. I am not impressed with Miami either, but the NBA is full of chokers. Everyone seems to forget how to rebound or shoot free-throws when they play Miami. The quality of play in the NBA is not good, at all. Lebron has no rival; there are only two superstars in the league. The other one is two tiers below the one who is playing in this series. Women's college hoops has more suspense than the NBA.

I agree. NBA has tons of chokers. Spurs easily could have 7 rings, but we don't. We've pissed a few away. Lebron couldn't do by himself and had to go to a team with two other Superstars to be able to do anything. He's a great player and I used to go for Cleveland if the Spurs were eliminated from around 2008-2010, but as soon as he went to Miami, I never really went for him again. I think Miami have been let off the hook. They easily could have only had 1 ring so far even with the move of James, Wade and Bosh teaming up. They haven't impressed me at all and it pisses me off with the Spurs letting them off the hook. They also have a free ride to the finals every year with that weak Eastern conference. I'm sorry, but I'm not impressed at all. The Spurs players need to get their heads out of their asses and realize this too. Gotta be more confident mentally and play strong.

Does anyone remember Ray Allen up to his first playoff run in Boston? He used to be a pretty big playoff choker. He choked in the first few rounds of the Boston Celtics run in 2008 where they were going 7 games against inferior teams. He was missing free throws and all kinds of , but none of these teams could capitalize and eventually when they got to the finals against the Lakers, I don't think Ray could choke any further and he was able to turn it all around from there and have a good finals series. He's pretty much better from that point on, but he was a playoff choker before that finals series. He choked so much that the only place to go was up from there as no one could capitalize on it.

[Ice009]

That's bull! The Spurs were extremely hot in the 4th quarter (no pun intended) and I highly doubt Queen James would've made a 15 point difference.

If any of the Spurs players have this in their heads, they need to get it out. Spurs played a great 4th and James wouldn't have stopped that run. The media is full of and trying to help James look better and at the same time get into the Spurs' players heads. Spurs won game 1. End of ing story. Spurs lost game 2 thanks to their own ups, not because Miami were the superior team, Spurs lost it with their own mistakes. End of story. Forget what those ers in the media say. They don't know anything except sucking off James and the Heat.

[Sean Cagney]

If any of the Spurs players have this in their heads, they need to get it out. Spurs played a great 4th and James wouldn't have stopped that run. The media is full of and trying to help James look better and at the same time get into the Spurs' players heads. Spurs won game 1. End of ing story. Spurs lost game 2 thanks to their own ups, not because Miami were the superior team, Spurs lost it with their own mistakes. End of story. Forget what those ers in the media say. They don't know anything except sucking off James and the Heat.

Yep, you can tell in their glee tonight in interviews like the world is right now! I can tell in the medias glee like they are Heat fans or paid to be and talk about them! Good post.

I see Manu, TP, Kawhi and Diaw getting killed for their play tonight but TD is getting a free pass. When you're the best overall player in franchise history and basically guarantee to win the championship this year, you don't miss two huge free throws in the 4th quarter, especially after you just saw one of your teammates miss two huge free throws. He also gambled late on defense and Bosh made him pay for it. While this was a team loss, if individuals are being singled out for choking, TD's name should be brought up too.

I am one of his biggest fans ever but I agree on this here. He is guilty too.

[outmap]

Beli makes Bonner look like Mutombo. Play some D Rocky!

[SpurPadre]

I'm pretty disappointed in the team right now, tbh. I thought after how they lost last year, they've gotten over with hand gifting games away in the Finals to this team. If they're going to lose, make them earn it but not due to missed free throws in the 4th. I'm sure they're not mentally-defeated by any stretch and know they're the better team but they're really not showing any poise against the Heat in the 4th when they're at full strength and we can only hope they don't keep wasting away opportunities against them.

[TE]

I'm pretty disappointed in the team right now, tbh. I thought after how they lost last year, they've gotten over with hand gifting games away in the Finals to this team. If they're going to lose, make them earn it but not due to missed free throws in the 4th. I'm sure they're not mentally-defeated by any stretch and know they're the better team but they're really not showing any poise against the Heat in the 4th when they're at full strength and we can only hope they don't keep wasting away opportunities against them.

Your streak is over

[SpurPadre]

Your streak is over

Yup, they ed me over, too. On the bright side, if Amused did tonight's Game thread, that rib shot on TP would've ended up as a punctured lung.

[ElNono]

I don't know. I agree with you that I don't think Pop wants to do it. But Green as always guarded James better than Diaw has, even in Game Five last year. Especially with Miami's new offensive look this year, Diaw is just a horrible choice. Even Splitter would be better.

I think Pop feels Danny is doing a solid job on Wade, and he would hate to waste Danny's fouls on trying to guard Lebron. Danny is oftentimes too aggressive, and Lebron will get the benefit of the doubt.

That's why I don't see it happening. Diaw will cover Lebron whenever the Spurs go to the 2nd unit or Kawhi is in foul trouble.

[daslicer]

Does anyone remember Ray Allen up to his first playoff run in Boston? He used to be a pretty big playoff choker. He choked in the first few rounds of the Boston Celtics run in 2008 where they were going 7 games against inferior teams. He was missing free throws and all kinds of , but none of these teams could capitalize and eventually when they got to the finals against the Lakers, I don't think Ray could choke any further and he was able to turn it all around from there and have a good finals series. He's pretty much better from that point on, but he was a playoff choker before that finals series. He choked so much that the only place to go was up from there as no one could capitalize on it.

I would say the damning thing about Ray is that he was garbage against the spurs last year except for Game 6. Every other game he was complete dog but so far in these 2 games he's been pretty good for them. On top of that he was garbage in '10 finals except for game 2 of that series from what I remember. Ray is a very streaky player where when he's hot he's really hot but when he's cold he's arctic cold. The fact he has always been a streaky player is the reason why he could never carry a team being the franchise player and had to accept a role as a third or fourth option on a le team.

[Ice009]

I would say the damning thing about Ray is that he was garbage against the spurs last year except for Game 6. Every other game he was complete dog but so far in these 2 games he's been pretty good for them. On top of that he was garbage in '10 finals except for game 2 of that series from what I remember. Ray is a very streaky player where when he's hot he's really hot but when he's cold he's arctic cold. The fact he has always been a streaky player is the reason why he could never carry a team being the franchise player and had to accept a role as a third or fourth option on a le team.

I agree with that. All I was saying is that they guy was pretty much a straight up choker until that 2008 finals series. He didn't really come through much in the playoffs prior to that. Since then he's come up clutch a few times, but he sure as hasn't been a clutch player his whole career like some people think he is. The Spurs players need to realize this and stop making him look good out there by leaving him wide open at times and they really need to exploit him on defense. Put pressure on him on both offense and defense.

[Sean Cagney]

I would say the damning thing about Ray is that he was garbage against the spurs last year except for Game 6. Every other game he was complete dog but so far in these 2 games he's been pretty good for them. On top of that he was garbage in '10 finals except for game 2 of that series from what I remember. Ray is a very streaky player where when he's hot he's really hot but when he's cold he's arctic cold. The fact he has always been a streaky player is the reason why he could never carry a team being the franchise player and had to accept a role as a third or fourth option on a le team.

I agree with you on this Slicer and Ice after that........... Good points.

[daslicer]

I agree with that. All I was saying is that they guy was pretty much a straight up choker until that 2008 finals series. He didn't really come through much in the playoffs prior to that. Since then he's come up clutch a few times, but he sure as hasn't been a clutch player his whole career like some people think he is. The Spurs players need to realize this and stop making him look good out there by leaving him wide open at times and they really need to exploit him on defense. Put pressure on him on both offense and defense.

I agree with everything you said. I remember going crazy in '10 when he couldn't come up big against the Lakers since I was rooting for the Lakers to lose that series. I just remember him melting in that series not coming through when the Celtics needed him to. Just amazing how the Lakers were able to scare this guy into choking despite getting owned by him in '08. The spurs need to figure it out against this chode just like the Lakers did in '10.

[Sean Cagney]

I agree with everything you said. I remember going crazy in '10 when he couldn't come up big against the Lakers since I was rooting for the Lakers to lose that series. I just remember him melting in that series not coming through when the Celtics needed him to. Just amazing how the Lakers were able to scare this guy into choking despite getting owned by him in '08. The spurs need to figure it out against this chode just like the Lakers did in '10.

That slicer and they need to shut down Lewis, realize this dude is a bum and cover him! Do not leave Bosh open either late in a game for a wide open three! I know the Refs play a role as we talked about earlier tonight in the chat but all of what we said above is very true! Make adjustments the Spurs can win this thing, if not they will allow the Heat to threepeat.

[smaka]

I don't know, but I think almost every time that I wear my Spurs t-shirt at home before the games, we end up losing... Maybe I should put it in the laundry before the next game.

[Diego20]

Gotta make the FTW Spurs.

[Diego20]

I see Manu, TP, Kawhi and Diaw getting killed for their play tonight but TD is getting a free pass. When you're the best overall player in franchise history and basically guarantee to win the championship this year, you don't miss two huge free throws in the 4th quarter, especially after you just saw one of your teammates miss two huge free throws. He also gambled late on defense and Bosh made him pay for it. While this was a team loss, if individuals are being singled out for choking, TD's name should be brought up too.

[mclinejr]

Game 1 and Game 2 came down to dumb luck. Neither team has truly dominated yet.

[Hoops Czar]

Lost the game at the free throw line per par. A flagarant on Tony and trip to the line for Duncan and they miss all 4 freebies. The names change but some things seem to stay the same.