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Oh great. Now we have to go into Iraq because they have WMD's? Where have I heard this before?
Hoping there's a live leak video.
Oh great. Now we have to go into Iraq because they have WMD's? Where have I heard this before?
Repug war criminals running around free
The Collapsing Obama Doctrine
By head
As the terrorists of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) threaten Baghdad, thousands of slaughtered Iraqis in their wake, it is worth recalling a few of President Obama's past statements about ISIS and al Qaeda. "If a J.V. team puts on Lakers' uniforms that doesn't make them Kobe Bryant" (January 2014). "[C]ore al Qaeda is on its heels, has been decimated" (August 2013). "So, let there be no doubt: The tide of war is receding" (September 2011).
( all true, AT THE TIME, which isn't now )
Rarely has a U.S. president been so wrong about so much at the expense of so many.
Too many times to count, Mr. Obama has told us he is "ending" the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan—as though wishing made it so. His rhetoric has now come crashing into reality. Watching the black-clad ISIS jihadists take territory once secured by American blood is final proof, if any were needed, that America's enemies are not "decimated." They are emboldened and on the march.
The fall of the Iraqi cities of Fallujah, Tikrit, Mosul and Tel Afar, and the establishment of terrorist safe havens across a large swath of the Arab world, present a strategic threat to the security of the United States. Mr. Obama's actions—before and after ISIS's recent advances in Iraq—have the effect of increasing that threat.
On a trip to the Middle East this spring, we heard a constant refrainin capitals from the Persian Gulf to Israel, "Can you please explain what your president is doing?" "Why is he walking away?" "Why is he so blithely sacrificing the hard fought gains you secured in Iraq?" "Why is he abandoning your friends?" "Why is he doing deals with your enemies?"
In one Arab capital, a senior official ( was in your truth-telling buddy Chalabi?
Our president doesn't seem to. Iraq is at risk of falling to a radical Islamic terror group and Mr. Obama is talking climate change. Terrorists take control of more territory and resources than ever before in history, and he goes golfing. He seems blithely unaware, or indifferent to the fact, that a resurgent al Qaeda presents a clear and present danger to the United States of America.
When Mr. Obama and his team came into office in 2009, al Qaeda in Iraq had been largely defeated, thanks primarily to the heroic efforts of U.S. armed forces during the surge. Mr. Obama had only to negotiate an agreement to leave behind some residual American forces, training and intelligence capabilities to help secure the peace. Instead, he abandoned Iraq and we are watching American defeat snatched from the jaws of victory.
( Obama implemented the dubya/ head WITHDRWAL agreement )
The tragedy unfolding in Iraq today is only part of the story. Al Qaeda and its affiliates are resurgent across the globe. According to a recent Rand study, between 2010 and 2013, there was a 58% increase in the number of Salafi-jihadist terror groups around the world. During that same period, the number of terrorists doubled.
In the face of this threat, Mr. Obama is busy ushering America's adversaries into positions of power in the Middle East. First it was the Russians in Syria. Now, in a move that defies credulity, he toys with the idea of ushering Iran into Iraq. Only a fool would believe American policy in Iraq should be ceded to Iran, the world's largest state sponsor of terror.
This president is willfully blind to the impact of his policies. Despite the threat to America unfolding across the Middle East, aided by his abandonment of Iraq, he has announced he intends to follow the same policy in Afghanistan.
Despite clear evidence of the dire need for American leadership around the world, the desperation of our allies and the glee of our enemies, President Obama seems determined to leave office ensuring he has taken America down a notch. Indeed, the speed of the terrorists' takeover of territory in Iraq has been matched only by the speed of American decline on his watch.
The president explained his view in his Sept. 23, 2009, speech before the United Nations General Assembly. "Any world order," he said, "that elevates one nation above others cannot long survive." Tragically, he is quickly proving the opposite—through one dangerous policy after another—that without American pre-eminence, there can be no world order.
It is time the president and his allies faced some hard truths: America remains at war, and withdrawing troops from the field of battle while our enemies stay in the fight does not "end" wars. Weakness and retreat are provocative. U.S. withdrawal from the world is disastrous and puts our own security at risk.
Al Qaeda and its affiliates are resurgent and they present a security threat not seen since the Cold War. Defeating them will require a strategy—not a fantasy. It will require sustained difficult military, intelligence and diplomatic efforts—not empty misleading rhetoric. It will require rebuilding America's military capacity—reversing the Obama policies that have weakened our armed forces and reduced our ability to influence events around the world.
American freedom will not be secured by empty threats, meaningless red lines, leading from behind, appeasing our enemies, abandoning our allies, or apologizing for our great nation—all hallmarks to date of the Obama doctrine. Our security, and the security of our friends around the world, can only be guaranteed with a fundamental reversal of the policies of the past six years. MORE WAR!
In 1983, President Ronald Reagan said, "If history teaches anything, it teaches that simple-minded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly. It means the betrayal of our past, the squandering of our freedom." President Obama is on track to securing his legacy as the man who betrayed our past and squandered our freedom.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/ -...ine-1403046522
Hey, black hearted murdering lying bas , YOU BROKE IRAQ, YOU OWN IT
Last edited by boutons_deux; 06-21-2014 at 11:10 AM.
KARL: I wonder if you've had the chance to see this op-ed piece that former vice president Cheney has written in the Wall Street Journal that has a rather critical tone to it toward the White House. He says, "rarely has a U.S. president been so wrong about so much at the expense of so many," talking about the situation in Iraq and in the Middle East generally.
CARNEY: Which president was he talking about?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...detail=email1#
Last edited by boutons_deux; 06-19-2014 at 09:14 PM.
No, someone has to be making this up. We were all told there were no chemical weapons.
IN RARE CONSENSUS, SUNNIS AND SHIITES TELL CHENEY TO SHUT UP
In a development that offers a faint glimmer of hope for Iraq, both Sunnis and Shiites are finding common ground in the view that former Vice-President Cheney seriously needs to shut up.
In the days following the publication, this week, of a Wall Street Journal op-ed piece about Iraq that Cheney wrote with his daughter Liz, hatred of the former Vice-President has, to the surprise of many, become the first thing that Sunnis and Shiites have agreed upon in centuries.
Iraqi observers in recent days have reported seeing both Sunnis and Shiites reading the Cheneys’ op-ed then tearing it to shreds in a rage.
“Cheney is an ass!” a Sunni merchant reportedly exclaimed in a Baghdad market on Thursday, to the resounding cheers of several Shiites nearby.
“Historically, it’s been challenging to find anything that Sunnis and Shiites agree on,” said Sabah al-Alousi, a history professor at the University of Baghdad. “That’s why their apparent consensus that Cheney needs to shut the up is so significant.”
Visiting Baghdad on Friday, Secretary of State John Kerry said that the joint Sunni-Shiite calls for Cheney to shut his pie hole were a cause for optimism.
“If Cheney winds up being the one thing that brings Sunnis and Shiites together, the United States owes him a debt of thanks,” he said, adding that the two sects’ view of the former Vice-President was also shared by the Kurds.
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...orowitz%20(86)
The Kurds might end up thanking Cheney.
This might end up giving them a country recognized by the UN in the Middle East.
With the latest round of sectarian violence we now have the most displaced people since WW II
Mouse claims we can trace this to the Big Tent Industrial complex.
religious extremism and hate, Christian and Muslim and Jewish, is the cause of the M/E toxic swamp
Reporter Who Was Wrong About Iraq: Stop Criticizing Those Who Were Wrong About Iraq
Fox News contributor Judith Miller, whose reporting on Iraq's weapons of mass turned out to be stunningly wrong, said Friday that the media has been too hard on other individuals whose pre-war pronouncements also turned out to be stunningly wrong.
During an appearance on Fox, Miller complained that the media "loves to beat up on who was responsible for the Iraq War and who is to blame for the current controversy, the current crisis."
That, she added, "is not helpful."
"What the media should be doing is encouraging everyone who has a view of what to do now in Iraq to come forward and discuss it rationally," Miller said. "But they're doing the opposite. They're trying to shut down people like Cheney, Liz Cheney, all of the 'neoconservatives' who brought us this war. It's not helpful."
In its mea culpa after the fact, the New York Times said much of Miller's reporting for the newspaper on Iraq's weapons in 2001, 2002 and 2003 was based on erroneous information from Ahmad Chalabi, the discredited Iraqi politician deployed by the Bush administration to bolster its case for war. The Times ultimately acknowledged in 2004 that Miller's reporting was "was not as rigorous as it should have been."
"Looking back, we wish we had been more aggressive
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...+%28TPMNews%29
WC, I know that when you gear up to post a hilarious one liner and then put it all in blue that you think you're being hilarious, but honestly, it's probably better if you just don't. It's the equivalent of making a joke and then saying "not"!! It wasn't funny in 1994 when people started doing it and it's still not funny....you in fact, are not funny.
LOL...IN RARE CONSENSUS, SUNNIS AND SHIITES TELL CHENEY TO SHUT UP
In a development that offers a faint glimmer of hope for Iraq, both Sunnis and Shiites are finding common ground in the view that former Vice-President Cheney seriously needs to shut up.
Another seriously stupid post and link.
That's like the Crips and the Bloods agreeing the police need to stop arresting them.
Sorry you don't understand. That's your problem, not mine.
How so? When we invaded Iraq, it wasn't to help "a side." It was because Saddam did not comply with the UN resolutions he agreed to that stopped us from taking him out during the first golf war. He violated his parole, and we took hem out for it.
There was not intentional deceit in what was said, at least by the republicans. The Clinton administration, and Tenet who was appointed by Clinton were the ones telling us how dangerous Saddam was. It was Clinton that was attacking Iraq and other counties hard during his administration with cruise missiles, causing Osama bin Laden to issue his Fatwas.
What is your favorite liberal propaganda source anyway?
"There was not intentional deceit in what was said, at least by the republicans"
"because Saddam did not comply with the UN resolutions"
Your assumption that I listen to Fox News or Beck shows it is you who are uninformed and stupid. I see you are a clear indoctrinated lemming of the left.
Do you have an opinion on the Iraqi Liberation Act?
Pawneriffic...
You should read or watch the 2003 State of the Union address. Please point out what President Bush lied about. Here is the transcript:
President Bush's 2003 State of the Union Address | Jan. 28, 2003 (washingtonpost.com)
Here is the full 2003 State of the Union video:
State Union Address | Video | C-SPAN.org
He starts talking about Iraq right after Korea. 52:46 is a good place to start.
You stupid liberal lemmings believe the only issues at stake are the weak ones that the liberal pundits tear down. There are so many more not spoken of because you liberal masters have no good retort to the. It is the likes of your sorry ass that believe those of MSNBC, the Madcow, Common Dreams, and other anti-right propaganda.
of course, dubya wouldn't say he, head, and the neocon/BigOil gang would announce in the SOTU address that Iraq was their invasion target for oil.
When head had his secret "national energy policy" meeting, only BigOil was invited. We learned later his policy was "invade Iraq for oil", with the map of oil fields discussed in that meeting.
dubya's first cabinet meeting, he mentioned something like "What about Iraq?" which flabbergasted one of his dept heads who thought that was totally inappropriate.
etc, etc, etc. no liberal fantasies, it's ALL well do ented, as if facts would have any meaning on WC.
Who else, in a meeting about energy, should have been invited?
BigCoal, mining + coal fired plant operators? hydroelectric operators? EPA? nuclear operators? electric grid operators?
How much of that do we get from the Middle East?
a bona fide (not a head) national energy policy cover all forms of energy, not just imported oil
It depends on what the topic was now, doesn't it.
Refresh my memory. What is the date or time frame of the meeting in question. All I remember is liberal rags lying about the truth, as normal.
"Do Your Own Research" -- WC
I have you moron.
The only thing I remember about the outcome proves that the administration was interested in not harming the oil infrastructure, so some oil companies with contracts in Iraq were invited. They wanted the new Iraq to be ready to make money for themselves.
Now if you have evidence to the contrary, please produce it, else shut the up with your stupid conspiracies.
is isis has any credibility they go into israel,
did u heard the latest news rocket fired from syria into israel killing 1 person so they go and shoot 9rockets back...lmao israel...
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