Is Leonard a Max Player

Originally Posted by Raven

i also think he'll get around 10-12 per year, i think he understands that he wouldn't be what he is now without the great coaching he got.

More than coaching, it's basically the strongest "supporting cast" (clearly not the right word given how strong and even the team was) to a FMVP ever...

Last year it was Green that could have had it with a weaker "supporting cast" (Pop underplayed Boris and Manu was bad) vs a better Heat team playing much better defense to put things into perspective...

He has a full year to prove it, next year his role will increase, he need to keep working on his game, he still has a lot to improve... Right now he is a great defender and rebounder, on offense he is improved shooter(surprisly shot out of his mind in the finals) and ball handler, but i think right now he rely very much on the team system and the focus Tim and Tony getting to score point, need to keep working on his ball skills and improve as a creator for him and others...

^^^Shows how radioactive Lance Stephenson is.

If gordon Hayward is Kawhi is a mini god

Originally Posted by Mel_13

There's no practical difference between 12.5M per year and 12M per year. Both are well below his market value and there's no reason for him to take such a deal unless he wants to give the team a deep discount. I can't recall any example of a player in his situation agreeing to that sort of discount.

The maximum offer he can get from another team in 2015 will be somewhere between 4/65 and 4/70, depending on the exact salary cap number. If he remains healthy, there will be multiple teams prepared to offer a max deal.

Maybe he signs for much less, but he would be leaving many millions on the table.

I guess the risk for Kawhi waiting is having a bad 2015, or getting hurt.

If Parsons is setting the market with 15 mil a year, KL will be getting paid max no questions asked.

Just extended Pop's career, he is invaluable.

Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones

I guess the risk for Kawhi waiting is having a bad 2015, or getting hurt.

The real danger for Kawhi is a recurrence of the same knee issue he had in 2013. That could then be seen as a chronic issue.

The chance of him playing poorly enough to hurt his financial prospects seems remote to me.

It's certainly not impossible that he opts for security now by signing a 4 year extension for less than the max, we really don't know what will go into decision-making process. It does seem unlikely.

The market clearly says yes.

Hayward and Parsons = 15mil+ a year.

Leonard beats both of them in FG%, 3P%, Rebounding, Stls/Blks, TOVs, Off & Def Rtg, and WS/48. Not to mention, Leonard is the youngest of the 3, better PER than the other 2, and played more playoff games than Parsons and Hayward combined. He has more finals games than they have playoff games combined. So if they get that much money, someone will easily offer that to Leonard, and it should be the Spurs.

Originally Posted by Mel_13

The Spurs are likely to designate him for their 5 year extension and the first year salary will be all or most of the maximum allowed (25% of the salary cap).

He is not eligible for the Derrick Rose Rule (30% of the salary cap).

Theese.

I think the NBA is going to have a new TV contract in two years so the chance the new contract might offer teams more money to spend might have an impact on free agents?

Originally Posted by Knoxxx

Theese.

That post you quoted suggests an impossible scenario. The only option with a 5 year extension is a max extension. There's no such thing as a near max 5 year extension.

Originally Posted by Mel_13

That post you quoted suggests an impossible scenario. The only option with a 5 year extension is a max extension. There's no such thing as a near max 5 year extension.

You stand corrected then. Please don't correct the 25% part which was my point of emphasis.

Originally Posted by Knoxxx

You stand corrected then. Please don't correct the 25% part which was my point of emphasis.

No, it was just the part about a less than max 5 year extension that was wrong. I brought it up at a point in this thread after the post you quoted.

Originally Posted by exstatic

^^^Shows how radioactive Lance Stephenson is.

Kawhi has the potential to be a max player, but as of right now he isn't worth that kind of money...

He will be in four years. Most NBA players hit their peak around 26-28.

Originally Posted by Arcadian

He will be in four years. Most NBA players hit their peak around 26-28.

If he MAX signs this year or next, he'll be a BARGAIN in 4 years. The new TV deal gets signed in 2016.

Ya... Kawhi is most definitely a max after the Hayward and Parsons contracts

With some of the ridiculous free agent signings, I'm starting to think Leonard is gonna get the max from somebody if allowed to test the market.

*Edit* Scratch that, I'm sure he'll get the max.

traded George Hill for a guy thats becoming a max player

Originally Posted by spurraider21

traded George Hill for a guy thats becoming a max player

a nude selfie taking, passive for a franchise player

Yes. He's not your typical max player, he's probably a guy that will be a better second scorer (like Scottie), but he is definitely a max player.

2014-15 will tell. Although best option would be to sing extension soon.