Spurs contact Pau Gasol reportedly

[Mel_13]

True, but it looks like the Lakers have given up this FA and are out to make up those picks at this point.

I agree about them giving up on FA. I just don't see much chance of an S&T to the Spurs.

[Mel_13]

No Melo to LA (which is not guaranteed yet, but it seems less likely) means one of the top 2-3 options for Pau is very much in play unfortunately. LA still has about 16M cap space after taking on Lin to offer FA's (including Pau). If they stretch Nash that number moves up to about 20M.

With Lin helping them on the court compared to what they have, it may be enough incentive to try and sign Pau like Mel said (maybe 12-13M per year for two years - 2/24M) and then get an Ariza for 9M a year (by stretching Nash). Or they may elect to just sign Pau and do one year deals to keep cap space again for next year when Nash and Lin are off the books and they have Kobe/Pau + pick essentially.

Not good news for SA, but we will see.

The Lin trade makes stretching Nash extremely unlikely. It appears that they're ready to take their medicine this season and they won't move part of the Nash cap hit to 2015 and 2016.

[DPG21920]

The Lin trade makes stretching Nash extremely unlikely. It appears that they're ready to take their medicine this season and they won't move part of the Nash cap hit to 2015 and 2016.

Why is that IYO? Besides that, even with Lin, LA still has cap space (16M approximately) and that was the point. That is still a ton of money to re-sign Pau or do other moves. Point was, Lin being with LA in no way means it's a good thing for SA's pursuit of Pau regarding the Lakers.

[Seventyniner]

They still have plenty of space even after acquiring Lin.

Counting Pau's cap hold, I think the Lakers are right around the cap.

Bryant: 23.5
Gasol (cap hold): 20.6
Nash: 9.7
Kelly: 1.0
Marshall: 0.9
Sacre: 0.9
6 roster spots: ~2.0 combined

That's 58.6M right there, which actually isn't enough space under the 63.0 cap to accomodate Lin (8.4). If my math is right, the Lakers will have to renounce Gasol or stretch Nash.

Amusingly, the Lakers (like the Spurs) have operated over the cap for so long that Shamsports shows a long list of cap holds, including Karl Malone.

Edit: the Lakers can re-sign Gasol to a deal in the 10-12M range and open up enough space for Lin that way. But that requires Gasol to agree quickly, as the Rockets must move fast to clear space and get Bosh's name on the line before Miami potentially gives Bosh an even bigger offer.

[Darius Bieber]

Another one of those threads where a pipe dream makes it to 50+ pages... He isn't coming..

[slick'81]

Lakers still very much in play for gasol

[crc21209]

Lakers arent winning anytime soon. I don't care if they get Lin and Ariza or anyone else on the market. If Pau wants to win now and still make some decent change, its either SA, OKC, or CHI.

[Poolboy5623]

Pau has shaken out to be this summer's ak47 lol.

[Mel_13]

Counting Pau's cap hold, I think the Lakers are right around the cap.

The point of my post is that the Lakers have room for Lin and a re-signed Gasol under their cap.

[Seventyniner]

The point of my post is that the Lakers have room for Lin and a re-signed Gasol under their cap.

Ok, I'm with you there. But the Lakers will still have to either re-sign or renounce Gasol first (and renounce all their other cap holds) in order to be able to absorb Lin's contract. We might see news on Pau sooner rather than later now, because the Rockets are in a hurry.

[Mel_13]

Why is that IYO? Besides that, even with Lin, LA still has cap space (16M approximately) and that was the point. That is still a ton of money to re-sign Pau or do other moves. Point was, Lin being with LA in no way means it's a good thing for SA's pursuit of Pau regarding the Lakers.

Stretching Nash moves part of his cap hit into 2015 and 2016. I don't believe that the Lakers will do that now that they have no chance of landing a major FA.

I agree with you about the impact on SA pursuit of Pau and had already said as much in this thread.

[vander]

Another one of those threads where a pipe dream makes it to 50+ pages... He isn't coming..

I recall people saying there was no way lebron would go back to Cleveland too...

[Mel_13]

Ok, I'm with you there. But the Lakers will still have to either re-sign or renounce Gasol first (and renounce all their other cap holds) in order to be able to absorb Lin's contract. We might see news on Pau sooner rather than later now, because the Rockets are in a hurry.

Right. They have to take one of those two actions with Pau in order to complete the Lin deal.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

They are talking about Pau to the Spurs right now on ESPNEWS

[slick'81]

They are talking about Pau to the Spurs right now on ESPNEWS

What are they saying

[Ron Swanson]

Do it, Pau! Do it!

[AFBlue]

Right. They have to take one of those two actions with Pau in order to complete the Lin deal.

Mel, I just gotta say you are a badass, and I appreciate you. Seriously, being able to keep up with other teams' cap situations in and of itself is awesome. But the fact that you can lay out the scenarios on the fly with complexities like cap holds, sequencing of signings and all this crazy as it's changing is damn impressive. Just thought you deserved a shout out.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

What are they saying

They were talking about the "big 3" of Howard/Bosh/Harden and said it wouldn't matter and 'be illegal' if Pau joins San Antonio.

[tholdren]

will houston be able to sign Bosh and Parsons?

[Brazil]

They were talking about the "big 3" of Howard/Bosh/Harden and said it wouldn't matter and 'be illegal' if Pau joins San Antonio.

[slick'81]

They were talking about the "big 3" of Howard/Bosh/Harden and said it wouldn't matter and 'be illegal' if Pau joins San Antonio.

Yeah and now even with the Lebron stealing the spurs thunder if pau goes to sa....game over

[thispego]

Pay won't be allowed to sign with San Antonio for "basketball reasons".

[Mel_13]

Mel, I just gotta say you are a badass, and I appreciate you. Seriously, being able to keep up with other teams' cap situations in and of itself is awesome. But the fact that you can lay out the scenarios on the fly with complexities like cap holds, sequencing of signings and all this crazy as it's changing is damn impressive. Just thought you deserved a shout out.

Appreciate it.

No real secret, just Larry Coon's FAQ and dozens of questions to Bruno over the years.

[Drom John]

+1

[Kineto]

Spurs can still propose a sign and trade to LA too :
Joseph+Ayres+Belinelli * 150% + 100k -> 10,188,000$
This 3 player are off the book next year and can help the Lakers to fill their roster for this year.
It would be enough for the laker to clear cap space for Lin.

For the spurs, it's a dream scenario, they don't give any significant player (exept maybe belinelli), and they keep their MLE and BAE for signing player like Mc Calleb, Morrow, Bazemore, etc...

Probably wont happened anyway...