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    Tbh i don't even know how i feel about Pau to the Spurs

    I can't see him accepting a 25 MPG bench role while leaving 5-7M on the table, when he could be a key piece elsewhere while still contending. I get the whole winning thing, but that's a pretty damn big sacrifice.

    If he does sign with the Spurs, theres 96 minutes between the 4/5. Being conservative Timmy gets 28, Tiago 22, Boris 22, that leaves 24 for Pau. Plus he's not a fit next to Timmy anymore, so he would need to accept a backup 5 role behind Tim.

    Having said that, if the Spurs can pull it off me it will be good to watch.
    Splitter and Diaw can play 20 each, thus leaving 28 minutes for Gasol. And Timmy is not playing b2b. That would create more minutes available.

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    Pau if from Barcelona... have you ever seen Barcelona play football.... looks like the Spurs.

    He isn't going to miss this opportunity to play!

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    Timmys minutes should go down at around 20 mins in the RS and no b2b's.

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    This isn't football. You have to score and defend all the time. The fact that Duncan/Gasol would be one of the worst defensive duos in recent memory is an issue. We're talking Turd Towers bad, although with Lock n Lock, it would seem as terrible.
    Leonard, Green, and a potentially healthy Parker on D are what give me pause when imagining a Duncan/Gasol pairing. They might be able to make the D near average while the offense would be nuts.

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    good point i can see Pau taking alot of Tims minutes to conserve Tim for the playoffs. I think it would work great!

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    Confused the out of me there...
    Im a little skeptical about Pau too but if e can get him for the MLE I'd do it and ask questions later. 17 7 and 4 from a 7 footer is nothing to sneeze at.

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    Tbh i don't even know how i feel about Pau to the Spurs

    I can't see him accepting a 25 MPG bench role while leaving 5-7M on the table, when he could be a key piece elsewhere while still contending. I get the whole winning thing, but that's a pretty damn big sacrifice.

    If he does sign with the Spurs, theres 96 minutes between the 4/5. Being conservative Timmy gets 28, Tiago 22, Boris 22, that leaves 24 for Pau. Plus he's not a fit next to Timmy anymore, so he would need to accept a backup 5 role behind Tim.

    Having said that, if the Spurs can pull it off me it will be good to watch.
    I do. he has gone through a lot the past 3 years. He needs a new scenery and a team that is close knit like the Spurs. There is a reason he turned down 10mil a year and a starting role for the Lakers.

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    Both Gasol and Duncan are horrendous pick&roll defenders and neither is capable of contesting/rotating to the perimeter..add Parker in the mix, and you have a defensive trio that would require both Green/Leonard on the floor just to reach an average level..

    It could have worked in the 90s when teams only ran ISO plays, but it's not going to succeed in the era of ball movement, mobility and athleticism..

    Gasol/Splitter and Gasol/Diaw(against opposing benches) would be great, though..

    Gasol's value would be huge during the regular season, though, as Tim's minute will probably dip to 25 MPG or lower..he would also be useful in the playoffs against starters when Tim is having a bad night, which obviously happens more frequently nowadays..

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    All of the flat-footed blocks Timmy had this year show that he doesn't need athletic ability to play defense.

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    Timmys minutes should go down at around 20 mins in the RS and no b2b's.
    that, he should take half of the season off.

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    Leonard, Green, and a potentially healthy Parker on D are what give me pause when imagining a Duncan/Gasol pairing. They might be able to make the D near average while the offense would be nuts.
    I really don't think Gasol is such a terrible defender. He's a good individual defender and LA's team defense was so putrid it made Dwight Howard look awful. Pop would have to crack the whip to get either of them to show on a PnR, but they probably would when it matters.

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    Both Gasol and Duncan are horrendous pick&roll defenders and neither is capable of contesting/rotating to the perimeter..add Parker in the mix, and you have a defensive trio that would require both Green/Leonard on the floor just to reach an average level..

    It could have worked in the 90s when teams only ran ISO plays, but it's not going to succeed in the era of ball movement, mobility and athleticism..

    Gasol/Splitter and Gasol/Diaw(against opposing benches) would be great, though..
    This is true, Timmy doesn't like to show...never has.

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    Splitter and Diaw can play 20 each, thus leaving 28 minutes for Gasol. And Timmy is not playing b2b. That would create more minutes available.
    And after securing long-term contracts last year and this year respectively, neither Splitter nor Diaw has that urge/need to play heavy minutes, hence better stats.

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    that, he should take half of the season off.
    Take december, january, february completely off then come back mid-march.

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    Both Gasol and Duncan are horrendous pick&roll defenders and neither is willing to contest/rotate to the perimeter.
    This is likely more accurate.

    PS: What is with the sideways colons? That a special character on your keyboard?

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    I really don't think Gasol is such a terrible defender. He's a good individual defender and LA's team defense was so putrid it made Dwight Howard look awful. Pop would have to crack the whip to get either of them to show on a PnR, but they probably would when it matters.
    True. If Gasol somehow rediscovers some mobility the league is ed.

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    I think y'all are selling Pau short. He wasn't healthy in 2013, and last year he was having to carry the offense. Not to mention his coach has been D'Antoni the past few years. I don't think his D has actually fallen off as much as y'all make it out to be.

    Regardless, I agree there are concerns defensively about a Pau/Duncan pairing. But it's not like they'd have to play together all the time, or even a lot. Pop can mix and match them with Diaw/Splitter and it'd work great IMO.

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    Both Gasol and Duncan are horrendous pick&roll defenders and neither is capable of contesting/rotating to the perimeter..add Parker in the mix, and you have a defensive trio that would require both Green/Leonard on the floor just to reach an average level..

    It could have worked in the 90s when teams only ran ISO plays, but it's not going to succeed in the era of ball movement, mobility and athleticism..

    Gasol/Splitter and Gasol/Diaw(against opposing benches) would be great, though..
    Ayres averaged 13 minutes per game and Duncan averaged 29. Diaw averaged 25 and Splitter got 22. They can trim the fat around those minutes and have Diaw at the 3 more often when matchups permit. I think they can make it work. As you've said yourself, if Gasol actually joined the Spurs, he'd understand his role coming in and it shouldn't be an issue. If it was a problem, he'd have stuck with the Lakers offer tbh

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    True. If Gasol somehow rediscovers some mobility the league is ed.
    Sometimes mobility is about knowing where to be. Leaving early is as good as going fast.

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    Sometimes mobility is about knowing where to be. Leaving early is as good as going fast.
    Truth

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    I doubt it. And you're selling Tim short, IMO. He's not as mobile but he's still very good. And I mean teams, teams that pay small will get abused by a Pau/Tim front court.
    No, Tim is awful defensively in space. Worst big on the team in that regard.

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    Both Gasol and Duncan are horrendous pick&roll defenders and neither is capable of contesting/rotating to the perimeter..add Parker in the mix, and you have a defensive trio that would require both Green/Leonard on the floor just to reach an average level..

    It could have worked in the 90s when teams only ran ISO plays, but it's not going to succeed in the era of ball movement, mobility and athleticism..

    Gasol/Splitter and Gasol/Diaw(against opposing benches) would be great, though..

    Gasol's value would be huge during the regular season, though, as Tim's minute will probably dip to 25 MPG or lower..he would also be useful in the playoffs against starters when Tim is having a bad night, which obviously happens more frequently nowadays..
    How much of a coon will Gasol be if he comes to SA?

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    No, Tim is awful defensively in space. Worst big on the team in that regard.
    this is truth so I'm inclined to trust ur assessment on pau as well

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    Both Gasol and Duncan are horrendous pick&roll defenders and neither is capable of contesting/rotating to the perimeter..add Parker in the mix, and you have a defensive trio that would require both Green/Leonard on the floor just to reach an average level..

    It could have worked in the 90s when teams only ran ISO plays, but it's not going to succeed in the era of ball movement, mobility and athleticism..

    Gasol/Splitter and Gasol/Diaw(against opposing benches) would be great, though..

    Gasol's value would be huge during the regular season, though, as Tim's minute will probably dip to 25 MPG or lower..he would also be useful in the playoffs against starters when Tim is having a bad night, which obviously happens more frequently nowadays..


    It's just ridiculous to think that the Spurs could add another weapon to their arsenal, given how good/deep/efficient they already are.

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    No, Tim is awful defensively in space. Worst big on the team in that regard.
    Even so, we still rang. I just don't see how adding Pau can be a bad thing.

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