Spurs refuse Manu permission to play in FIBA tournament

[cd98]

Dude has a stress fracture that could become a real problem if it doesn't heal properly. Players love to play, but they need clear thinking people to stop them from doing dumb things, like coming back to early to play in a meaningless tournament where most of the top US players are backing out of. Spurs medical staff is one of the best and I'm sure Manu has faith in their decision making.

besides, The Olympics are the biggest stage and he'll be free to play without Spur restrictions as he'll probably be retired from the NBA by then.

[UnWantedTheory]

That's it? that. Play Gino, play.

[littlecoyotecoin]

You are idiots if you don't think that Pop and Manu had already talked about it even before the letter.

This.

[TheyCallMePro]

June 15, 2014.

It's also funny how Parker didn't get this kind of backlash playing for France after 6.

Yup. There's a lot of hypocrisy here by the Spurs, and I'm surprised so many posters are trying to deny it. Manu had the same injury when it was still fresh during the Finals. Pop didn't sit him then.

Here's the bottom line. Manu is retiring from the Spurs after next year. And he'll go down as the second greatest Spur ever, right behind Duncan. And for the Spurs to deny him possibly his last chance of playing for his country is de able. The Spurs are supposed to be a 'family' organization who responds to their players needs with human empathy. This was a cold and heartless decision made by the Spurs front office machine. The Spurs just treated their 2nd best player in their history like a child.

You can all celebrate this decision now. But the fact is that there WILL be bad blood between Manu and the Spurs because of this. Basketball is a mental game, especially in the playoffs. And this decision by the Spurs will hang over his head all season.

[dabom]

Yup. There's a lot of hypocrisy here by the Spurs, and I'm surprised so many posters are trying to deny it. Manu had the same injury when it was still fresh during the Finals. Pop didn't sit him then.

Here's the bottom line. Manu is retiring from the Spurs after next year. And he'll go down as the second greatest Spur ever, right behind Duncan. And for the Spurs to deny him possibly his last chance of playing for his country is de able. The Spurs are supposed to be a 'family' organization who responds to their players needs with human empathy. This was a cold and heartless decision made by the Spurs front office machine. The Spurs just treated their 2nd best player in their history like a child.

You can all celebrate this decision now. But the fact is that there WILL be bad blood between Manu and the Spurs because of this. Basketball is a mental game, especially in the playoffs. And this decision by the Spurs will hang over his head all season.

I stopped reading after that.

[ElNono]

I'm not twisting a single thing. If the most important thing to Manu is playing on the NT, he can retire from The Spurs and play. Regardless of what The Spurs say. He doesn't need their permission. What he needs permission to do is play on a broken leg and still get his seven milly. He could deal with the financial consequences later. They BOTH signed the contract. You don't get to piecemeal the parts you like.

There's no need to entertain hypotheticals. He *is* under contract with the Spurs, and because he *is* under contract and the Spurs deem him injured, *the Spurs* have decided to not authorize him to play. Period.

If Manu wants to walk away from the last year of his deal, that's certainly an option. Although, it is more complicated than that. I think if he decides to 'retire', he can't 'unretire' and sign with another NBA team for a while. So the Spurs certainly have a lot of power in this.

Ultimately, the relationship between him and Pop is bigger than this, and I think they'll talk about this if they haven't already. I don't expect bad blood.

[UnWantedTheory]

Yup. There's a lot of hypocrisy here by the Spurs, and I'm surprised so many posters are trying to deny it. Manu had the same injury when it was still fresh during the Finals. Pop didn't sit him then.

Here's the bottom line. Manu is retiring from the Spurs after next year. And he'll go down as the second greatest Spur ever, right behind Duncan. And for the Spurs to deny him possibly his last chance of playing for his country is de able. The Spurs are supposed to be a 'family' organization who responds to their players needs with human empathy. This was a cold and heartless decision made by the Spurs front office machine. The Spurs just treated their 2nd best player in their history like a child.

You can all celebrate this decision now. But the fact is that there WILL be bad blood between Manu and the Spurs because of this. Basketball is a mental game, especially in the playoffs. And this decision by the Spurs will hang over his head all season.

Uhhh no. Stop being such a drama queen.

[dabom]

That's it? that. Play Gino, play.

[Kindergarten Cop]

The Spurs pay him, arg doesn't. It's that simple. Why do people keep recycling the same argument?

The NBA is FULL of players who play for the National teams during the offseason. It's not a question of "where he gets his check from", considering that every one of those other players get paid by their NBA teams yet are allowed to represent their countries. Manu is injured, correct. The Spurs can use a clause to prevent him from playing during the offseason, correct. My post that you quoted did not refute either of those at all.

It simply pointed out the hypocrisy that Manu was "allowed" to play in the Playoffs with a freshly broken leg, yet is not healthy enough to play with the same injury 2 1/2 to 3 months later.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Great news! The guy needs to rest.

Spurs have given him plenty of la ude to play for ARG during his career, but in this case he just needs to sit the back and put his leg up.

[UnWantedTheory]

Sacrifice his first born son.

My point was that he is going to listen because he wants to remain employed and collect his 7 milli from a contract he signed with the team. If he truly wanted to play he would.

[ElNono]

That is a move.... but deserved as revenge for your client ing out the Spurs' medical staff to the media

truth, tbh...

[SupremeGuy]

Yup. There's a lot of hypocrisy here by the Spurs, and I'm surprised so many posters are trying to deny it. Manu had the same injury when it was still fresh during the Finals. Pop didn't sit him then.

Here's the bottom line. Manu is retiring from the Spurs after next year. And he'll go down as the second greatest Spur ever, right behind Duncan. And for the Spurs to deny him possibly his last chance of playing for his country is de able. The Spurs are supposed to be a 'family' organization who responds to their players needs with human empathy. This was a cold and heartless decision made by the Spurs front office machine. The Spurs just treated their 2nd best player in their history like a child.

You can all celebrate this decision now. But the fact is that there WILL be bad blood between Manu and the Spurs because of this. Basketball is a mental game, especially in the playoffs. And this decision by the Spurs will hang over his head all season.

Holy please tell me you're an argentina homer because that's just a stupid comment to make unless you're blinded by 3rd world country pride.

[UnWantedTheory]

The NBA is FULL of players who play for the National teams during the offseason. It's not a question of "where he gets his check from", considering that every one of those other players get paid by their NBA teams yet are allowed to represent their countries. Manu is injured, correct. The Spurs can use a clause to prevent him from playing during the offseason, correct. My post that you quoted did not refute either of those at all.

It simply pointed out the hypocrisy that Manu was "allowed" to play in the Playoffs with a freshly broken leg, yet is not healthy enough to play with the same injury 2 1/2 to 3 months later.

You call it hypocrisy, I call it good business.

[SupremeGuy]

The NBA is FULL of players who play for the National teams during the offseason. It's not a question of "where he gets his check from", considering that every one of those other players get paid by their NBA teams yet are allowed to represent their countries. Manu is injured, correct. The Spurs can use a clause to prevent him from playing during the offseason, correct. My post that you quoted did not refute either of those at all.

It simply pointed out the hypocrisy that Manu was "allowed" to play in the Playoffs with a freshly broken leg, yet is not healthy enough to play with the same injury 2 1/2 to 3 months later.

Because the Spurs PAY him and argentina doesn't...

One team PAYS him to play...

One team doesn't...

That's not hypocrisy. That's called earning your paycheck.

[littlecoyotecoin]

I stopped reading after that.

I think he is the second greatest ever, too, call me crazy, but I am still tired of this schtick when things don't go the internationals' way, they want to start renegotiating contracts and throwing teams under the bus.

[100%duncan]

There is no need for discussion tbh

1. Manu is injured.
2. Holt pays him.
3. He's freaking 37 years old.
4. Like OV said, Argentina should start looking for some younger players.
5. And lastly, shame on that NT for pressuring him even after knowing he was injured.

[SupremeGuy]

My point was that he is going to listen because he wants to remain employed and collect his 7 milli from a contract he signed with the team. If he truly wanted to play he would.

Yup.

[Clipper Nation]

And he'll go down as the second greatest Spur ever, right behind Duncan.

Did Robinson, Gervin, Elliott and Kenon stop existing or something?

[Kool Bob Love]

Holy please tell me you're an argentina homer because that's just a stupid comment to make unless you're blinded by 3rd world country pride.

Did Robinson, Gervin, Elliott and Kenon stop existing or something?

Did you not watch game 5 of the 2014 nba finals?

i respect the older spurs but Robinson and iceman couldn't dream of doing something like that in the FINALS.

Manu 4
Robinson 2
Iceman 0

[Kindergarten Cop]

You call it hypocrisy, I call it good business.

I actually called it both in post #146.

I didn't read through every post in this thread, so perhaps it's been stated already ... but I find it a bit hypocritical of the Spurs, their medical staff, and to the fans that are criticizing Manu for allowing him to play out the Finals with this injury (considering that reports are that the injury occurred late in the Western Conference Playoffs) but using it as an excuse to keep him from playing for his National team.

For the record, I am actually glad that they are using the injury clause to prevent him from playing (and I guess it's "good business", as they are protecting their investment) because I selfishly want him to rest and heal so that he is ready for a run at a B2B le - but I find the hypocrisy to be laughable. I guarantee that nearly every one of these posters claiming that Manu is selfish for wanting to play for Argentina would be criticizing him for not playing in the NBA Finals (considering that he could still play, and at a very high level) had the Spurs decided that the injury needed rest at that time.

[ElNono]

There is no need for discussion tbh

1. Manu is injured.
2. Holt pays him.
3. He's freaking 37 years old.
4. Like OV said, Argentina should start looking for some younger players.
5. And lastly, shame on that NT for pressuring him even after knowing he was injured.

You were doing good until the bolded. Nobody pressure him. He wanted (wants) to play.
He went to see a specialist in Chicago before even going to Argentina. He just wanted to make this his farewell with the NT.

[Cherry]

Good news, IMO... ARG reaction, tbh...

[dabom]

Did you not watch game 5 of the 2014 nba finals?

i respect the older spurs but Robinson and iceman couldn't dream of doing something like that in the FINALS.

Manu 4
Robinson 2
Iceman 0

Sorry ing re s, but If I could pick a young DRob or Young Manu to play with old TD, I'm picking DROB you stupid s.

[littlecoyotecoin]

The NBA is FULL of players who play for the National teams during the offseason. It's not a question of "where he gets his check from", considering that every one of those other players get paid by their NBA teams yet are allowed to represent their countries. Manu is injured, correct. The Spurs can use a clause to prevent him from playing during the offseason, correct. My post that you quoted did not refute either of those at all.

It simply pointed out the hypocrisy that Manu was "allowed" to play in the Playoffs with a freshly broken leg, yet is not healthy enough to play with the same injury 2 1/2 to 3 months later.

Of course it does, and more importantly, whether he wants to keep getting the check and playing with us. It's called nut cuttin' time, and I am glad that I think Manu will handle it better than a bunch of you guys.