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  1. #201
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    Because the Spurs PAY him and argentina doesn't...

    One team PAYS him to play...

    One team doesn't...

    That's not hypocrisy. That's called earning your paycheck.
    Pay him DURING the season. It's the off-season. Spurs have no say unless it's in that contract Manu sign.

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    You were doing good until the bolded. Nobody pressure him. He wanted (wants) to play.
    He went to see a specialist in Chicago to before even going to Argentina. He just wanted to make this his farewell with the NT.
    Cmon son, if the NT just told him to rest and that they understood from the start, it would have been easier for Manu and he himself would've decided and this "letter thing" wouldn't have happened.

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    Because the Spurs PAY him and argentina doesn't...

    One team PAYS him to play...

    One team doesn't...

    That's not hypocrisy. That's called earning your paycheck.
    It is the TRUEST definition of hypocrisy, regardless of your regurgitating of where his pay check comes from. How can you not see that? I've said that I am actually GLAD that they are making him rest and invoking their right to refuse him to play this summer - but that does not take away the hypocrisy that you highlighted in the statement above.

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    Did Robinson, Gervin, Elliott and Kenon stop existing or something?
    Robinson>Manu=Gervin>Elliott>Kenon.

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    I stopped reading after that.
    And why's that?

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    Yup. There's a lot of hypocrisy here by the Spurs, and I'm surprised so many posters are trying to deny it. Manu had the same injury when it was still fresh during the Finals. Pop didn't sit him then.
    The spurs did not know Manu had a leg fracture during the finals. It was discovered much later (weeks?).

    Here's the bottom line. Manu is retiring from the Spurs after next year. And he'll go down as the second greatest Spur ever, right behind Duncan.
    Come on. He's not better than Drob or Gervin. That's ridiculous. You need to let this go. The spurs have let Manu play for his national team 6 or 7 times over the course of his career. They would let him play this year if he wasn't seriously injured.

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    David Robinson is a top 15 player while Manu is a top 50 player at best.

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    Cmon son, if the NT just told him to rest and that they understood from the start, it would have been easier for Manu and he himself would've decided and this "letter thing" wouldn't have happened.
    Him and Scola have more power there than the coach or anybody else in the Confederation. The coach has been waiting since last March for him to make up his mind on what he wants to do.

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    There's no need to entertain hypotheticals. He *is* under contract with the Spurs, and because he *is* under contract and the Spurs deem him injured, *the Spurs* have decided to not authorize him to play. Period.

    If Manu wants to walk away from the last year of his deal, that's certainly an option. Although, it is more complicated than that. I think if he decides to 'retire', he can't 'unretire' and sign with another NBA team for a while. So the Spurs certainly have a lot of power in this.

    Ultimately, the relationship between him and Pop is bigger than this, and I think they'll talk about this if they haven't already. I don't expect bad blood.
    The fact that he can play if he wants to is not a hypothetical.

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    What should've happened is Manu saying he's injured and he was not going to play. But he wanted to play, so he was hoping for a miracle that didn't happen.

    I'm good with the Spurs decision. It's the right decision.

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    Of course it does, and more importantly, whether he wants to keep getting the check and playing with us. It's called nut cuttin' time, and I am glad that I think Manu will handle it better than a bunch of you guys.
    Don't clump me in to the group that think that there will be bad blood or ill feelings between Manu and the Spurs, because I don't believe for one second there will be. I know that both sides understand the opposite's desires and reasoning - and everything will be cool when camp opens up (especially after #5).

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    Pay him DURING the season. It's the off-season. Spurs have no say unless it's in that contract Manu sign.
    Apparently they do have say so what exactly is your argument?

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    Robinson>Manu=Gervin>Elliott>Kenon.
    Robinson>>>Gervin>Manu>Elliott.

    Who the is Kenon ?

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    The fact that he can play if he wants to is not a hypothetical.
    The fact that he's under contract with the Spurs and not 'retired' makes it a hypothetical, and that puts the decision, under the current cir stances, squarely on the Spurs.

    Could he walk away from his current deal? Possibly. It that an hypothetical? Absolutely.

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    David Robinson is a top 15 player while Manu is a top 50 player at best.

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    at anyone suggesting Ginobili > Robinson.

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    at anyone suggesting Ginobili > Robinson.
    David Robinson is a top 15 player while Manu is a top 50 player at best.



    Thank goodness Duncan got pick by the spurs.

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    The spurs did not know Manu had a leg fracture during the finals. It was discovered much later (weeks?).
    Reports came out after the Finals (perhaps to hide/protect the injury from the opposition) that the Spurs knew that the injury happened late in the Western Playoffs (likely against OKC).

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    David Robinson is a top 15 player while Manu is a top 50 player at best.
    Manu will forever be underrated. There was once a list showing him ahead of Jordan, Bird, etc. in playoff winning percentage. He is a stud. David is 2b in my book, but no reason to be such a hardass over it. David just didn't have the passion, drive, and basketball savvy Manu does. They're both great men. Those lists are always subjective. Wait until someone breaks into your house before you break out the hardware.

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    If I was Manu I'd call the Spurs bluff. Appeal the decision, claim they're lying about me not being healthy enough and the extent of the injury, and see if the Spurs DARE to try to fight the most beloved Spur of all time on this issue.

    Manu deserves the support of the Spurs. If he fights this, the organization would concede.

    And what's this about disputing the fact that Manu is the 2nd best Spur of all time??? Drob was great, but he was humbled by Hakeem and never got anything done in the playoffs. Manu is a 4 time Champion, and has been the heart and soul of this franchise for the last decade. The Big 3 are the Spurs 3 best players of all time. Tim #1, Manu #2, and Parker close behind at #3.

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    The fact that he's under contract with the Spurs and not 'retired' makes it a hypothetical, and that puts the decision, under the current cir stances, squarely on the Spurs.

    Could he walk away from his current deal? Possibly. It that an hypothetical? Absolutely.
    The fact that he has that OPTION is not a hypothetical. He can play if he wants.

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    Robinson>>>Gervin>Manu>Elliott.

    Who the is Kenon ?
    Same sentiments.

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    If I was Manu I'd call the Spurs bluff. Appeal the decision, claim they're lying about me not being healthy enough and the extent of the injury, and see if the Spurs DARE to try to fight the most beloved Spur of all time on this issue.

    Manu deserves the support of the Spurs. If he fights this, the organization would concede.

    And what's this about disputing the fact that Manu is the 2nd best Spur of all time??? Drob was great, but he was humbled by Hakeem and never got anything done in the playoffs. Manu is a 4 time Champion, and has been the heart and soul of this franchise for the last decade. The Big 3 are the Spurs 3 best players of all time. Tim #1, Manu #2, and Parker close behind at #3.
    Did you mean to use the blue font?

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    IMHO, one can certainly put a strong case that Manu>Gervin as a Spur. Right or wrong?

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    If I was Manu I'd call the Spurs bluff. Appeal the decision, claim they're lying about me not being healthy enough and the extent of the injury, and see if the Spurs DARE to try to fight the most beloved Spur of all time on this issue.
    There's a rumor going around that he will try to talk to Pop and RC, and that there might be one more round to this. I just think that at some point he needs to snap out of it, and realize this is the best not just for the Spurs but for him.

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