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    Egyptians weren't really black, dude.

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    i'll post more journals and information debunking y'all "egyptians weren't black" rhetoric lol.

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    He addressed that, Kush conquered Egypt just like Kubla Kahn conquered China.

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    Lol, can't even finish reading my post before posting something ignorant.

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    ...i was getting hate from DoK, DD, Raven, and others for my Russell Wilson fanhood, please spare me the crap. and i really hope Creepn was a troll account because he was literally the most racist poster i've seen on ST, and that's saying something.


    btw Armenians aren't anglo white at all. middle-east caucasian isn't anywhere near the same as typical white america, so spare me the life story about not knowing oppression. heck, the armenians went through a genocide less than a century ago as part of the ottoman's "ethnic cleansing." oppression is one of the reasons i was born in this country in the first place

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    Lol, can't even finish reading my post before posting something ignorant.
    i can't believe y'all are really arguing that egypt is the only place in africa there were NO blacks after i posted scientific data proviing otherwise. ya'll are trolling lol. here are some more facts.




    (co-authored) 'Cultural convergence in the Neolithic of the Nile Valley: a prehistoric perspective on Egypt’s place in Africa'. Antiquity (2014) | David Wengrow - Academia.edu

    Main aspects (citation in bold):

    - The African origins of Egyptian civilisation lie in an important cultural horizon, the ‘primary pastoral community’, which emerged in both the Egyptian and Sudanese parts of the Nile Valley in the fifth millennium BC.

    - The aim of the present article is to define an important horizon of cultural change, belonging to the fifth millennium BC, linking Egypt’s early development firmly to that of its southern neighbours in Nubia and central Sudan.

    - This cultural horizon is situated between the green Sahara (early-mid holocene) period (Wavy Line pottery culture) and Badarian/Naqada period. All in the 5th Millennium BC. The Sahara was in the process of desertification. Most population were still mobile but maintained a certain cultural uniformity across the Nile and surrounding desert areas (Nabta Playa, Gebel Ramlah, Kharthoum, etc).

    - ...the characteristic features of the ‘primary pastoral community’ may appear slightly earlier in the Sudanese than in the Egyptian part of the valley, suggesting a possible spread from south to north during the course of the fifth millennium.

    - Neolithic of the Nile Valley cons utes a cultural phenomenon of impressive coherence, scale and duration.

    - It is during this period [edit:5th Millennium BC] that burial grounds of varying size—but rarely exceeding a hundred individuals within a single cemetery—become a widely visible feature in the archaeological record of this region.

    - ...the sites have a broadly similar character along both its Egyptian and Sudanese courses

    - These developments are echoed in the changing location of herding and fishing camps along the margins of the floodplain. Seasonally occupied sites of this kind cons ute our main evidence for the nature of human habitation along the Nile Valley during the fifth millennium BC. Comprising loose configurations of post-holes, dung deposits, hearths and thin ash-middens, the sites have a broadly similar character along both its Egyptian and Sudanese courses (e.g. Welsby 2000; Hendrickx et al. 2001; Honegger 2001; Sadig 2010) and are best understood as the remains of seasonal encampments, reflecting high levels of residential mobility among herder-fisher-forager populations (cf. Butzer 1976: 14; Trigger 1983: 28; Caneva 1991; Midant-Reynes 2000: 160)

    - Indicators of sustained investment in cereal farming and sedentary life—such as durable architecture, heavy plant processing equipment, and high proportions of cereal grains in botanical samples—make their first appearance in the Egyptian Nile Valley only later, in the early fourth millennium BC (Midant-Reynes & Buchez 2002: 485–99; Wengrow 2006: 33, 76–82, with further
    references).


    - The overall patterning of the archaeological record in Middle-Upper Egypt suggests, instead, that low-level cereal farming on the floodplain was practiced within the context of a seasonal herding, fishing and foraging economy.

    - Recent discoveries at the Neolithic cemetery of el-Barga, in the Kerma region of northern Sudan, raise the further possibility that this ritual-territorial system, and its sophisticated modes of body decoration, extend back in time beyond the fifth millennium BC


    - Shared features of Neolithic burial across the Nile Valley (aka aspect of cultural uniformity):

    > Treatment and ornamentation of the corpse (see text and below)
    > Deposition of functionally similar artefacts within graves (see text and below) Dap + Quote Reply

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    egyptians don't even call themselves egyptians. they called their land "khem" or "kemit" and they refer to themselves as khemitians and khem translates as black.

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    Lol, did you really just quote me saying you didn't read my post, then proceed to respond without reading my post?

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    i can't believe y'all are really arguing that egypt is the only place in africa there were NO blacks after i posted scientific data proviing otherwise. ya'll are trolling lol. here are some more facts.




    (co-authored) 'Cultural convergence in the Neolithic of the Nile Valley: a prehistoric perspective on Egypt’s place in Africa'. Antiquity (2014) | David Wengrow - Academia.edu

    Main aspects (citation in bold):

    - The African origins of Egyptian civilisation lie in an important cultural horizon, the ‘primary pastoral community’, which emerged in both the Egyptian and Sudanese parts of the Nile Valley in the fifth millennium BC.

    - The aim of the present article is to define an important horizon of cultural change, belonging to the fifth millennium BC, linking Egypt’s early development firmly to that of its southern neighbours in Nubia and central Sudan.

    - This cultural horizon is situated between the green Sahara (early-mid holocene) period (Wavy Line pottery culture) and Badarian/Naqada period. All in the 5th Millennium BC. The Sahara was in the process of desertification. Most population were still mobile but maintained a certain cultural uniformity across the Nile and surrounding desert areas (Nabta Playa, Gebel Ramlah, Kharthoum, etc).

    - ...the characteristic features of the ‘primary pastoral community’ may appear slightly earlier in the Sudanese than in the Egyptian part of the valley, suggesting a possible spread from south to north during the course of the fifth millennium.

    - Neolithic of the Nile Valley cons utes a cultural phenomenon of impressive coherence, scale and duration.

    - It is during this period [edit:5th Millennium BC] that burial grounds of varying size—but rarely exceeding a hundred individuals within a single cemetery—become a widely visible feature in the archaeological record of this region.

    - ...the sites have a broadly similar character along both its Egyptian and Sudanese courses

    - These developments are echoed in the changing location of herding and fishing camps along the margins of the floodplain. Seasonally occupied sites of this kind cons ute our main evidence for the nature of human habitation along the Nile Valley during the fifth millennium BC. Comprising loose configurations of post-holes, dung deposits, hearths and thin ash-middens, the sites have a broadly similar character along both its Egyptian and Sudanese courses (e.g. Welsby 2000; Hendrickx et al. 2001; Honegger 2001; Sadig 2010) and are best understood as the remains of seasonal encampments, reflecting high levels of residential mobility among herder-fisher-forager populations (cf. Butzer 1976: 14; Trigger 1983: 28; Caneva 1991; Midant-Reynes 2000: 160)

    - Indicators of sustained investment in cereal farming and sedentary life—such as durable architecture, heavy plant processing equipment, and high proportions of cereal grains in botanical samples—make their first appearance in the Egyptian Nile Valley only later, in the early fourth millennium BC (Midant-Reynes & Buchez 2002: 485–99; Wengrow 2006: 33, 76–82, with further
    references).


    - The overall patterning of the archaeological record in Middle-Upper Egypt suggests, instead, that low-level cereal farming on the floodplain was practiced within the context of a seasonal herding, fishing and foraging economy.

    - Recent discoveries at the Neolithic cemetery of el-Barga, in the Kerma region of northern Sudan, raise the further possibility that this ritual-territorial system, and its sophisticated modes of body decoration, extend back in time beyond the fifth millennium BC


    - Shared features of Neolithic burial across the Nile Valley (aka aspect of cultural uniformity):

    > Treatment and ornamentation of the corpse (see text and below)
    > Deposition of functionally similar artefacts within graves (see text and below) Dap + Quote Reply
    Cool story bro...now a out that royal African blood you traced? Don't skip over my question a third time.

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    egyptians don't even call themselves egyptians. they called their land "khem" or "kemit" and they refer to themselves as khemitians and khem translates as black.
    Israelites called themselves the people of god. So are they really the chosen ones? Greeks call themselves the people of the Sun. Are they blazing balls of gas?

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    Trill race-baiting per the usual....

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    Cool story bro...now a out that royal African blood you traced? Don't skip over my question a third time.
    What I find funniest about that article he posted is that he's trying to use that article as evidence that Egyptians were predominantly black when it clearly includes all the black countries that surround Egypt like Ethopia and Sudan (the former Ku e kingdom we all already talked about).

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    Trill can be proud of abbasyninas but here he is twisting history instead of talking proudly about real black people..

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    why does Trill give a about ancient egyptian racial demographics when he has zero ancestral ties to egypt

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    Are you s serious? Ight, lets cast George Lopez to portray Abe Lincoln, I'm sure white America wouldn't mind at all.

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    Hispanic population in this country is exploding, we all know this. If you want to stick it to the man, don't go see the movies and convince others to not see them either.

    I have a feeling we will still see most of you in the next Avengers tread though, so go ahead and just pipe down instead.

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    Enjoy, a character who had no race in the book I might add, lol white america.

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    Are you s serious? Ight, lets cast George Lopez to portray Abe Lincoln, I'm sure white America wouldn't mind at all.
    of course G-Lo is the first guy you thought of

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    of course G-Lo is the first guy you thought of
    I don't know of any other Mexican actors. Danny Trejo? Robert Rodriguez?

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    I don't know of any other Mexican actors. Danny Trejo? Robert Rodriguez?
    i know... its just funny that the "not-mexican guy" is only thinking about adding mexicans to the conversation

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    i know... its just funny that the "not-mexican guy" is only thinking about adding mexicans to the conversation
    As a Spanish German African French man I don't know how I feel about your comment.

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    Still waiting for the African bloodline link.....

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    Dude.. Black people are welcomed in the Klan now. Won't you ever be happy!???

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    Are you s serious? Ight, lets cast George Lopez to portray Abe Lincoln, I'm sure white America wouldn't mind at all.
    I think George Lopez would be great in the role as Abe Lincoln. They should have honestly had him in the Lincoln movie a year or two ago.

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