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    can someone explain how a person charging someone is shot in the ARM of all places 4 times in the same area and TWICE in the head??? most law enforcement are trained to shoot center mass when being threatened. unless mike was charging with his hands raised in the air, it doesn't make sense.
    his arm was raised. which is all this tells us. it doesn't tell us he was surrendering. it doesn't tell us he was charging.

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    cops prematurely fired tear gas into a crowd of women and children who were peacefully protesting BEFORE the 12am curfew




    cops shooting media with rubber bullets and tear gas



    where are the militia's to protect these citizens right to a assemble???

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    his arm was raised. which is all this tells us. it doesn't tell us he was surrendering. it doesn't tell us he was charging.

    arms raised is a sign of surrendering, which is consistent with several eyewitness accounts. maybe he was raising the roof???

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    arms raised is a sign of surrendering, which is consistent with several eyewitness accounts. maybe he was raising the roof???
    ok trill i know you've made up your mind on the facts of this case... There were also accounts he was charging the officer, could his arm(s) have not also been raised in this scenario?

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    where are the militia's to protect these citizens right to a assemble???
    when the kitchen is REALLY REALLY hot, the Cons ution-defending militia cooks stay out

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    Poor babies just wanted a little milk...


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    ok trill i know you've made up your mind on the facts of this case... There were also accounts he was charging the officer, could his arm(s) have not also been raised in this scenario?
    there is ONE account by someone in the background of the video. when we get multiple accounts from eyewitnesses in front of the camera then i'd take that narrative a little serious.

    i'm not saying i know all the facts yet. i'm just going with evidence and eyewitness accounts.

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    there is ONE account by someone in the background of the video. when we get multiple accounts from eyewitnesses in front of the camera then i'd take that narrative a little serious.

    i'm not saying i know all the facts yet. i'm just going with evidence and eyewitness accounts.
    i wonder why that guy hasn't brought his account to the forefront?

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    when the kitchen is REALLY REALLY hot, the Cons ution-defending militia cooks stay out
    exactly.

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    Poor babies just wanted a little milk...

    i'd do the same thing if i saw women and children get bombarded with tear gas...i'm sure most men would..well, except you of course.

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    uh oh








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    i'd do the same thing if i saw women and children get bombarded with tear gas...i'm sure most men would..well, except you of course.


    I don't see those goons in gas masks "pouring milk on the eyes of innocent women and children"

    I see exactly what the picture shows. A bunch of blacks looting a McDonalds.

    You are ing pathetic.

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    Why would women and children be out in this sort of situation?
    So I want to protest and I take my wife and child into a dangerous situation?
    I thought you said protestors were having to guard businesses ?

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    Oh well. That lying piece of that robbed the store with him got his 15 minutes of fame.
    This is pathetic as well.

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    Not that anyone really cares, but I'm all over the place on this fiasco. I haven't followed any of this closely, but this has undoubtedly become a world-class cluster .

    Obviously, the people on the ground are in the wrong for escalating what could be meaningful civil disobedience into criminal mischief. At the same time, the way the situation has been handled -- the seeming indifference to their anger and the vicious reaction to its percolation -- is precisely the sort of thing that tends to perpetuate itself. Won't defend looting or violence at all, but their anger strikes me as understandable. I think the PD in Ferguson has handled this abysmally from beginning and bear at least some responsibility for the fact that this has continued as long as it has. If they had elected to simply put out objective facts from the get-go, rather than trying to defend and protect their guy, I suspect these es in the protesting wouldn't have happened.

    The bigger problem here is that somehow, our societal norm seems to now favor the use of deadly force as a deterrent -- without regard to the severity of the risk posed by the person against whom that force is used. Even if Michael Brown had robbed a store, assaulted a cop, or tried to flee an arrest, there's simply no justification (to me) in any of that for shooting him. If he gets away, he can be pursued and arrested. He didn't present any obvious sort of risk to the lives of innocents that would necessitate the use of lethal force against him in any way. There are other ways to "get your man."

    The use of force in that cir stance should be commensurate with the urgency of the need to subdue the suspect and no more; a kid who's been stopped for petty "criminal" conduct shouldn't be subjected to lethal force unless the life of the officer or someone else is clearly and unequivocally in imminent danger -- and that couldn't possibly be true of a suspect who was shot at something other than very close range.

    Being a scared cop doesn't give a person license to take a life; if he was scared to the point that shooting at least 6 times was his only means of coping, he needed to find another line of work. He's supposed to be protecting the public, not acting as judge, jury, and executioner.

    We've become far too tolerant, I think, of the use of deadly force in too many situations.

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    I don't see those goons in gas masks "pouring milk on the eyes of innocent women and children"

    I see exactly what the picture shows. A bunch of blacks looting a McDonalds.

    You are ing pathetic.
    i don't see them looting in the photo you posted. looks like a bunch of men standing around.

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    Why would women and children be out in this sort of situation?
    So I want to protest and I take my wife and child into a dangerous situation?
    I thought you said protestors were having to guard businesses ?
    at 8pm the police started throwing tear gas into the crowds. this was a peak time of the peaceful protesting.

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    john oliver dropping truth bombs

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    I find it interesting that our police need to have massive arsenals because there have been cases of being outgunned, welcome to a country that has more guns than people.

    That being said, our police take protect and serve to another level. We have not made it clear what we want from them either. Are they peace officers or protectors, there is a difference.
    It is always interesting to note the cases chosen to illustrate the problem we have.

    Anecdotal situations have lead me to believe there are times when the police are put in very tough situations so often in some places that they are programmed to overreact. The latest does not seem like one of them.
    Guns in hand during heat of the moment situations lead to some very difficult decision making, even for police officers that have been trained.

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    at 8pm the police started throwing tear gas into the crowds. this was a peak time of the peaceful protesting.
    My question still stands.

    Are you taking your wife and kid to protest knowing (from your facts) that the police have lost control?

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    Police officers should never remove their badges and name tags.
    We are already clear on that, remember, the good cops arrived?

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    My question still stands.

    Are you taking your wife and kid to protest knowing (from your facts) that the police have lost control?
    YES

    last night was the 1st time they threw gas before the curfew. noone expected it.

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    Another black thug murdered, unarmed (and mentally deficient), of course

    Hundreds protest fatal police shooting of unarmed black man in Los Angele


    About 500 people protested outside Los Angeles police headquarters on Sunday over the shooting death of an unarmed black man in California as disturbances continued in Missouri over the police killing of a black teenager there last week.

    Ezell Ford, 25, was killed by police in Los Angeles on Monday, two days after 18-year-old Michael Brown was shot dead by a police officer in the St. Louis suburb where he lived.

    “He was a humble guy,” said Ford’s cousin, Ceebo Ship, 22.


    Ship and other family members said Ford suffered from an unspecified mental illness and was “slower than the rest of us,” and a gentle person who loved basketball.

    Ford’s family said he was cooperating with officers and lying on the ground when shot. The Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) said Ford had struggled with officers and was trying to grab one of their guns when he was shot.

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/1...e+Raw+Story%29


    why are you posting stories of people getting themselves killed?

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    where did this witness say shot in back???

    Listen to 2:00-2:10. Says he was shot and then turned around and the officer fired 7 more shots. SO according to the witness, that is at least one shot in the back.

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