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    you leftists always show your true colors. also, isn't doxxing a bannable offense?

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    you leftists always show your true colors. also, isn't doxxing a bannable offense?
    Doxology? More bag UTA mustang super low-brow trolling.

    The ironic reality is you're such a ing low iq moron, your hero hitler would have gassed you along with all the Jews.

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    there, there. let it all out.

    meanwhile, you can actually learn something. it seems that you don't actually know what national socialism really is.


    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=938_1406310574

    National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), abbreviated as NS, is a worldview which combines ethnic solidarity amongst the people of a nation with socialism, it was realized from 1933 to 1945 as a sovereign national party system in theGreater German Empire. Adolf Hitler erected National Socialism as "the political doctrine of the national community." (See AH's Pre-election speech The basic ideas were a healthy shaping of personalities and a national alturism, contrary to atomised liberal ideas of individualism. The NS worldview is neither "right" nor "left" on the old spectrum, but sees itself as a broad-based popular social nationalist movement and is aimed at involving all classes of the national body for the greater good of the people as a whole. Splintering directions and parties were eliminated under the NS because they were considered weakening to the nation by creating political self interest. Due to the low German birth rates and high Jewish control and employment as a result of The Versailles Diktat, racial awareness took center stage under chancellor Hitler.

    National Socialism expressed its commitment to the German people, contrary to rival systems such as Marxism and liberalism. It also opposed Jewish supremacists to infiltrate and take-over the national body politic in historically developed nations, regarding it as an existential threat to all peoples, thus it placed a significant focus on the Jewish Question in relation to life in German, especially. The National Socialists, unlike Fascists, sought not the totality of the state, but the claim to the totality of the idea in its entirety in the political life of the people. The idea that National Socialism as a wholesale system could be transported to other nations was regarded with heavy skepticism by Adolf Hitler, although there were cousin revolutionary nationalist movements inline with the general spirit of the age.

    Economically, the program of the National Socialists was laid out in a booklet by Gottfried Feder, looking to "break interest slavery", promoting in large companies worker profit sharing, the expansion of social welfare legislation, the fight against land speculation and the municipalization of the department stores. Unlike Bolshevism, it didn't propose to eliminate all private enterprise and private ownership of property, but rather aimed to protect the general public against the excesses of plutocrats unrestrained by any sense of patriotic group solidarity.
    Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=938_1...S1dqAxkfgIM.99

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    Don't be silly UTA. National socialism is a mental and emotional crutch for the weak. You're a weak minded man. Likely a demure man. Do you have your UTA degree hanging in your bedroom or in your cubicle? Honest question.

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    on the contrary, national socialist countries are very strong and united. leftists are spineless and weak, unwilling or incapable of making the real sacrifices necessary for the betterment of the nation. a leftist can never pick up a weapon and fight to defend his homeland, he's cosmopolitan and would rather just run away to the next country to wreck. you stand for nothing, and that's why you're despised by real men.

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    on the contrary, national socialist countries are very strong and united. leftists are spineless and weak, unwilling or incapable of making the real sacrifices necessary for the betterment of the nation. a leftist can never pick up a weapon and fight to defend his homeland, he's cosmopolitan and would rather just run away to the next country to wreck. you stand for nothing, and that's why you're despised by real men.
    So is the UTA degree in your bedroom or cubicle?

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    I listened to the whole thing.

    Hitler was definitely the type of guy to go out to the beach, get out the chair and a beer, and just relax... soak it all in.
    After a long nap and some meditation, a little weed before reading up on comfort through soft, blissful chanting. A tranquil, even tempered, amenable dude, a guy you would want to surf with and have a nonchalant discussion over what it means to be self composed, low pressured, and flexible.

    What a tolerant, patient man. Nonjudgmental, lenient, just a pleasure to hang out with. The guy just had a gift of making everyone comfortable and collected. Leadership through the placidity.

    Now why did he shoot himself, it's a Fkn mystery.

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    be careful, journalism majors who so happen to have their trolling activity uncovered might reconsider turning nazi. just sayin'.

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    He may have been lying
    crofl

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    gah that "revisionist" sounds like a **** i'd like to punch in the mouth. he needs a new hobby because he's very bad at it.

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    gah that "revisionist" sounds like a **** i'd like to punch in the mouth. he needs a new hobby because he's very bad at it.
    ing do it then cuck

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    psychopath bored bohemian with illusions of grandeur takes advantage of a desperate population seeking a way out of the inexorable reparations imposed on them by western powers (particularly that of france) from a hypernationalist ww1 coupled with the fear of communism and a seemingly insurmountable depression. psychopath paves way out of depression by putting people to work through an military industrial complex and refusing reparations. public learns to follow psychopath's lead because they're much better off. demand of military industrial complex can only be facilitated by war. same happened with italy and japan. that's why eisenhower warned against it on his way out. seems pretty black and white to me. we learned from it and moved on.

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    sounds like im causing you some cognitive dissonance, and you're lashing out at the source. don't shoot the messenger .

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    if the internet was around the 40s.... none of this would of happend

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    psychopath bored bohemian with illusions of grandeur takes advantage of a desperate population seeking a way out of the inexorable reparations imposed on them by western powers (particularly that of france) from a hypernationalist ww1 coupled with the fear of communism and a seemingly insurmountable depression. psychopath paves way out of depression by putting people to work through an military industrial complex and refusing reparations. public learns to follow psychopath's lead because they're much better off. demand of military industrial complex can only be facilitated by war. same happened with italy and japan. that's why eisenhower warned against it on his way out. seems pretty black and white to me. we learned from it and moved on.
    lol why to people always spread this lie that germany had a war based economy in 1933 when he took power? that didn't even start ramping up until later. alot of it was social programs and infrastructure such as the autobahn etc. you know nothing about history and just randomly run your mouth.

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    lol why to people always spread this lie that germany had a war based economy in 1933 when he took power? that didn't even start ramping up until later. alot of it was social programs and infrastructure such as the autobahn etc. you know nothing about history and just randomly run your mouth.

    yeah when he took power. that was in the middle of their depression. six million unemployed. nice pawns for an army if you ask me.

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    when hitler was putting millions of germans back to work, it wasn't creating armaments. literally no historian agrees with you there. they say the military economy started somewhere between 1937-1939 ish, when it was clear that all of the other powers were doing the same. and none had prepared like the soviet union had.

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    this is an excellent article outside of the anti-hitler jabs, and although i disagree with the author's free market views. just simply read the description of what hitler did it's pretty accurate.

    http://mises.org/daily/5765/Hitlers-Economics

    Hitler's Economics

    [Day 9 of Robert Wenzel's 30-day reading list that will lead you to become a knowledgeable libertarian, this Mises Daily was originally published August 02, 2003.]

    For today's generation, Hitler is the most hated man in history, and his regime the archetype of political evil. This view does not extend to his economic policies, however. Far from it. They are embraced by governments all around the world. The Glenview State Bank of Chicago, for example, recently praised Hitler's economics in its monthly newsletter. In doing so, the bank discovered the hazards of praising Keynesian policies in the wrong context.
    The issue of the newsletter (July 2003) is not online, but the content can be discerned via the letter of protest from the Anti-Defamation League. "Regardless of the economic arguments" the letter said, "Hitler's economic policies cannot be divorced from his great policies of virulent anti-Semitism, racism and genocide.… Analyzing his actions through any other lens severely misses the point."
    The same could be said about all forms of central planning. It is wrong to attempt to examine the economic policies of any leviathan state apart from the political violence that characterizes all central planning, whether in Germany, the Soviet Union, or the United States. The controversy highlights the ways in which the connection between violence and central planning is still not understood, not even by the ADL. The tendency of economists to admire Hitler's economic program is a case in point.
    In the 1930s, Hitler was widely viewed as just another protectionist central planner who recognized the supposed failure of the free market and the need for nationally guided economic development. Proto-Keynesian socialist economist Joan Robinson wrote that "Hitler found a cure against unemployment before Keynes was finished explaining it."
    What were those economic policies? He suspended the gold standard, embarked on huge public-works programs like autobahns, protected industry from foreign compe ion, expanded credit, ins uted jobs programs, bullied the private sector on prices and production decisions, vastly expanded the military, enforced capital controls, ins uted family planning, penalized smoking, brought about national healthcare and unemployment insurance, imposed education standards, and eventually ran huge deficits. The Nazi interventionist program was essential to the regime's rejection of the market economy and its embrace of socialism in one country.
    Such programs remain widely praised today, even given their failures. They are features of every "capitalist" democracy. Keynes himself admired the Nazi economic program, writing in the foreword to the German edition to the General Theory: "[T]he theory of output as a whole, which is what the following book purports to provide, is much more easily adapted to the conditions of a totalitarian state, than is the theory of production and distribution of a given output produced under the conditions of free compe ion and a large measure of laissez-faire."
    Keynes's comment, which may shock many, did not come out of the blue. Hitler's economists rejected laissez-faire, and admired Keynes, even foreshadowing him in many ways. Similarly, the Keynesians admired Hitler (see George Garvy, "Keynes and the Economic Activists of Pre-Hitler Germany," The Journal of Political Economy, Volume 83, Issue 2, April 1975, pp. 391–405).
    Even as late as 1962, in a report written for President Kennedy, Paul Samuelson had implicit praise for Hitler: "History reminds us that even in the worst days of the great depression there was never a shortage of experts to warn against all curative public actions.… Had this counsel prevailed here, as it did in the pre-Hitler Germany, the existence of our form of government could be at stake. No modern government will make that mistake again."
    On one level, this is not surprising. Hitler ins uted a New Deal for Germany, different from FDR and Mussolini only in the details. And it worked only on paper in the sense that the GDP figures from the era reflect a growth path. Unemployment stayed low because Hitler, though he intervened in labor markets, never attempted to boost wages beyond their market level. But underneath it all, grave distortions were taking place, just as they occur in any non-market economy. They may boost GDP in the short run (see how government spending boosted the US Q2 2003 growth rate from 0.7 to 2.4 percent), but they do not work in the long run.
    "To write of Hitler without the context of the millions of innocents brutally murdered and the tens of millions who died fighting against him is an insult to all of their memories," wrote the ADL in protest of the analysis published by the Glenview State Bank. Indeed it is.
    But being cavalier about the moral implications of economic policies is the stock-in-trade of the profession. When economists call for boosting "aggregate demand," they do not spell out what this really means. It means forcibly overriding the voluntary decisions of consumers and savers, violating their property rights and their freedom of association in order to realize the national government's economic ambitions. Even if such programs worked in some technical economic sense, they should be rejected on grounds that they are incompatible with liberty.
    So it is with protectionism. It was the major ambition of Hitler's economic program to expand the borders of Germany to make autarky viable, which meant building huge protectionist barriers to imports. The goal was to make Germany a self-sufficient producer so that it did not have to risk foreign influence and would not have the fate of its economy bound up with the goings-on in other countries. It was a classic case of economically counterproductive xenophobia.
    And yet even in the United States today, protectionist policies are making a tragic comeback. Under the Bush administration alone, a huge range of products from lumber to microchips are being protected from low-priced foreign compe ion. These policies are being combined with attempts to stimulate supply and demand through large-scale military expenditure, foreign-policy adventurism, welfare, deficits, and the promotion of nationalist fervor. Such policies can create the illusion of growing prosperity, but the reality is that they divert scarce resources away from productive employment.
    Perhaps the worst part of these policies is that they are inconceivable without a leviathan state, exactly as Keynes said. A government big enough and powerful enough to manipulate aggregate demand is big and powerful enough to violate people's civil liberties and attack their rights in every other way. Keynesian (or Hitlerian) policies unleash the sword of the state on the whole population. Central planning, even in its most petty variety, and freedom are incompatible.
    Last edited by m>s; 09-06-2014 at 03:44 PM.

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    i read the article. he agrees with my sentiment of putting people to work partially through vastly expanding the military.
    the basic role of government is defense, and you can argue that military is infrastructure. the article argues that the government intervention centralist tendencies invite moral issues such as the death of millions of people. there's nothing wrong with my stance.

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    you can look at all of the latin american dictators who used the same model. strong short term growth, weak long term growth. they did it mostly through the military.

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    Check out the reasons Hitler gave the German people for his invasions of Poland and Russia.

    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...et+Union&sm=12

    Watch the above video here without having to log in.
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0a0_1301486247

    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...g+Poland&sm=12


    He may have been lying to the German people and soldiers so they would support his invasions but at least we know what they were thinking as the German army invaded Poland and Russia. Americans are taught that Hitler said to the German people, "We should invade eastern Europe to expand German territory" and the German people said, "Good idea, let's do it". The German people and soldiers believed (perhaps wrongly) they were righting old wrongs and defending their territory. That is one confirmed lie that the American government tells the American people.

    Here's some more revisionist stuff on WW2.
    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Hitler%27s+War+-+What+the+Historians+Neglect+to+Mention&sm=12

    I don't know why the above link isn't a hot link. You have to copy and paste it or do a YouTube search on "Hitler's War - What the Historians Neglect to Mention". Here's a hot link to the video that may go off-line.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mA0kk29DBA

    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...m+Stalin&sm=12
    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...+Suvorov&sm=12
    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...%27s+War&sm=12
    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...+History&sm=12

    This analysis of WW2 seems pretty objective.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOEM_xOGE8U
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMJQeg4xYoc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkf94miRGNU

    At the 1:03:50 time mark of this video we are told what Hitler's offer of peace to England was during the battle of Britain.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhFL...vmjQ_BgDDWQzBz

    An alternate look at WW1 & WW2 (p-1 of 4)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry37mKMh04U

    http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot....ealed-how.html
    http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scr...s/jdecwar.html
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDu3QUveAcI

    There's a lot of good stuff in this site.
    http://www.ihr.org/

    I'm not taking a firm stand on anything as it's all second-hand info but I think it's clear that the version of WW2 that Americans are taught is pretty incomplete and distorted.
    the entire western world is taught a bunch of Jew fabricated bull . Every holohoax survivors tale is taken as fact no matter how crazy it sounds. German shepherds with poison teeth, baby Jews used as clay pigeons for skeet shooting, a 7yr old girl that defeated an SS officer in a knife fight then spent the next 4 years being raised by wolves, a diesel engine from a Soviet submarine used to kill a million people. It really is the biggest scam in world history and they're still milking it for billions today.

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    lol m<s, comsmored and Dirk....the Axis of Vapidity.

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    thanks for the link i'll check it out

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