Enrique is done!!

[hater]

That's why it's amazing that these fools continue to root against Tony. They're rooting for an early exit and are too stupid to realize it.

prety much

but hey, they ride the Yellow Short Bus for a reason

[Diego20]

prety much

but hey, they ride the Yellow Short Bus for a reason

saying the same of "yellow short bus for a reason" over and over..

Someone says something about Enrique, you quote him saying "yellow short bus for a reason" bla bla

[Johnny RIngo]

That's why it's amazing that these fools continue to root against Tony. They're rooting for an early exit and are too stupid to realize it.

Nobody's rooting against Tony. We all want to see the team play better but that's just not possible with Tony Parker running the offense.

[Johnny RIngo]

Spurs should trade Parker asap, he's on the decline, especially defensively.

He's never been that good to begin with tbh, he's always been outplayed or matched by opposing PG's with less help. Parker is a system player.

Mostly agree. Duncan and Manu would have been legends on any team in the league - Parker, not so much. Extremely fortunate to have played his career in San Antonio.

[james evans]

his defense needs to get a bit better he does annoying now that he has never done in the past. Declining, or rusty? Still the only player on the team that can over a game anywhere on the floor when he gets going.

get better? HE'S NEVER HAD DEFENSE HIS WHOLE NBA CAREER? so how at going on 33 is it gonna get better? his 2nd year in the league(when kidd was killing him in the finals) it was covered up cuz u had a prime duncan and old but servicable robinson) saving him. Every year the spurs would ad big men to play along side duncan and defensive wings , now we have leonard and splitter. I just don't understand how people don't see this . Some actually see it, but want to lie to themselves. if you were ty on defense in your prime, you're gonna be even worse at the end of your careeer

[james evans]

Nobody's rooting against Tony. We all want to see the team play better but that's just not possible with Tony Parker running the offense.

at best he's a rod strickland or dana barros type player on another team. When people try to make Parker out to be this great all time player it's hilarious.

[Ditty]

get better? HE'S NEVER HAD DEFENSE HIS WHOLE NBA CAREER? so how at going on 33 is it gonna get better? his 2nd year in the league(when kidd was killing him in the finals) it was covered up cuz u had a prime duncan and old but servicable robinson) saving him. Every year the spurs would ad big men to play along side duncan and defensive wings , now we have leonard and splitter. I just don't understand how people don't see this . Some actually see it, but want to lie to themselves. if you were ty on defense in your prime, you're gonna be even worse at the end of your careeer

Okay Johnny, Parker is very good one on one defender. His speed helps, but to say that he has never had defense is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Of course lately Parker has struggled on pick n rolls, but Duncan doesn't help him out too much either being one of the worst big man pick n roll defenders in the league.

[Johnny RIngo]

Okay Johnny, Parker is very good one on one defender. His speed helps, but to say that he has never had defense is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Of course lately Parker has struggled on pick n rolls, but Duncan doesn't help him out too much either being one of the worst big man pick n roll defenders in the league.

[Fuzzy Dunlop]

That's why it's amazing that these fools continue to root against Tony. They're rooting for an early exit and are too stupid to realize it.

oh my god. enrique fans really are up there with LG Kobe fans now. y'all are way too delusional.

[Ditty]

Don't know what you've been watching over the years, of course anything positive about Parker you're going to shoot it down

+/- stats matter

[KL2]

Okay Johnny, Parker is very good one on one defender. His speed helps, but to say that he has never had defense is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Of course lately Parker has struggled on pick n rolls, but Duncan doesn't help him out too much either being one of the worst big man pick n roll defenders in the league.

Parker's defense is horrible, he's literally the worst defender in the NBA this year. He's never been a good defender, hustle stuff here and there but he's always had someone to cover for him.

Think about it, every time the opposing team had a star PG he almost never guards them, and when he does he usually gets burned or outplayed.
From the beginning of his career he had Duncan/D-Rob packing the paint, then Bowen on the perimeter guarding opposing PG's for years all the way up until '09.

Once both guys were on the decline Parker's defensive flaws started to show. He got killed in '09 by Barea/Kidd/Terry etc., '10 by Nash/Dragic (Nash has a history of owning Parker), '11 he played like and was horrible on defense, '12-15 he's had Parker-Leonard-Splitter to cover for him. They've helped lock down the most elite back courts in the West year after year.

[Johnny RIngo]

Don't know what you've been watching over the years, of course anything positive about Parker you're going to shoot it down

+/- stats matter

What defense was Parker playing last night when scrubs like brooks and tony snell torched him?

[KL2]

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rp...e/12/sort/DRPM



Hey, he's not that bad, barely 460 out of 463 NBA players of all positions when it comes to DRPM.

Imagine if he didn't have Green/Leonard guarding those all star back courts night after night, or Splitter/Duncan in the paint...And the Spurs weren't trying to hide him on scrubs either.

Last year they hid him on Jackson against Okc who had a bum ankle.

[Johnny RIngo]

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rp...e/12/sort/DRPM



Hey, he's not that bad, barely 460 out of 463 NBA players of all positions when it comes to DRPM.

Imagine if he didn't have Green/Leonard guarding those all star back courts night after night, or Splitter/Duncan in the paint. And the Spurs weren't trying to hide him on scrubs either.

Last year they hid him on Jackson against Okc who had a bum ankle.

holy ! I knew he was bad on D but that's ing atrocious.

[lefty]

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rp...e/12/sort/DRPM



Hey, he's not that bad, barely 460 out of 463 NBA players of all positions when it comes to DRPM.

Imagine if he didn't have Green/Leonard guarding those all star back courts night after night, or Splitter/Duncan in the paint...And the Spurs weren't trying to hide him on scrubs either.

Last year they hid him on Jackson against Okc who had a bum ankle.

hater

[hater]

I was the first to admit Tony is playing at 60% tbh (still recovering) whether he will recover fully is an open question.

Regardless, this team will go as far as MVParker takes em. As I said if TP doesn't regain 80% we are getting bounced in round 1 or 2. If he doesn't regain 90% we have no chance in to go all the way.

[james evans]

it's not even worth responding to. cuz we can start to break down playoff series. and we can talk about how bobby jackson last season was looking like allen iverson against us when westbrook was out. After that 1st sentence, his agenda was known. I don't want to see parker fail, cuz when he fails, the team mostly fails. I'd like to see him do good. What spurs fan doesn't? I want him to prove me wrong. I want to be wrong.

[Johnny RIngo]

at best he's a rod strickland or dana barros type player on another team. When people try to make Parker out to be this great all time player it's hilarious.

I remember in the mid 2000s when prime Duncan and prime Manu received most of the defensive attention from opposing teams, you'd think Parker would take advantage of the situation. He never did. Highly inefficient in the playoffs despite playing with two greats like TD and Manu. That's why I always considered it more of a big Two back then. Parker's impact was never on the same level as TD or Manu. It was more like role player impact. 2005 Finals are a good example - Horry was more important than Parker in that series.

[Ditty]

Parker's defense is horrible, he's literally the worst defender in the NBA this year. He's never been a good defender, hustle stuff here and there but he's always had someone to cover for him.

Think about it, every time the opposing team had a star PG he almost never guards them, and when he does he usually gets burned or outplayed.
From the beginning of his career he had Duncan/D-Rob packing the paint, then Bowen on the perimeter guarding opposing PG's for years all the way up until '09.

Once both guys were on the decline Parker's defensive flaws started to show. He got killed in '09 by Barea/Kidd/Terry etc., '10 by Nash/Dragic (Nash has a history of owning Parker), '11 he played like and was horrible on defense, '12-15 he's had Parker-Leonard-Splitter to cover for him. They've helped lock down the most elite back courts in the West year after year.

Make some good points here. 09 I see your point but Josh Howard and Terry were raping everyone even Hill (who was lost the whole game 5 on defense), Bowen, Finley, Udoka who were okay defenders at that time. '10 Nash was destroying Hill also, Dragic had one fluke game . 11' was the only year I can say that Parker was getting completely outplayed on both ends by Conley, but you can make an argument how the whole team was getting outplayed but blame it on Parker . Parker did redeem himself greatly playing well on both ends against Conley, Paul, Curry (when guarded him) and (2012)Westbrook. Yeah Parker isn't an "elite" defender, and hasn't been pretty bad this year for the most part on both, but to say he has been horrible his whole career again is dumb to say the least.

[Ditty]

What defense was Parker playing last night when scrubs like brooks and tony snell torched him?

The same defense everyone else on the team was playing

[vma16]

damnd, talk about throwing our people under the bus.... Parker is living history of this organization

[Johnny RIngo]

damnd, talk about throwing our people under the bus.... Parker is living history of this organization

Rockets traded Hakeem at end of his career. Knicks dumped Ewing. Parker's certainly not on the level of those two and shouldn't be treated like an untouchable player. Duncan's the only true legend on the Spurs right now. Maybe Manu(he's a fan favorite). Parker? no.

[hater]

The same defense everyone else on the team was playing

owned

[Ditty]

damnd, talk about throwing our people under the bus.... Parker is living history of this organization

Bunch of crybabies when we finally aren't doing great tbh

No matter how much our guys suck at times, I will still try my best to like the guys until they are traded *cough cough* Richard Jefferson

[Malik Hairston]

How exactly did Tony Parker receive "legend" status with the Spurs? Sure, it's not surprising that the same organization that retired the numbers of Avery Johnson and Bruce Bowen(although I love Bruce as much as any Spurs fan) would inflate the legacy and impact of a good(not great) player like Parker, but legend?

Outside of the 2007 and 2013(until the most important games of the season, 6&7 vs. Miami) playoffs, this has been a constant playoff under-achiever..the Spurs were never able to rely on him to show up in big games, it was essentially always Duncan and Ginobili + the role players(Bruce, Horry, all the guys from last year, etc)..

It seems like Spurs fans have forgotten, though, as they actually have the audacity to mock Chris Paul and others for their playoff failures, when in reality, our "legendary" PG has been a constant playoff disappointment..

Everybody was cool with bashing Manu when he struggled in 2013, look it up, tbh, they all forgot how he always stepped up in big games for the Spurs..