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    I'll be amazed if they hang on to Buechele through all of this.

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    Holy what a dumpster fire. This is so embarrassing. How doe this happen to the biggest, richest, more powerful and most resourceful athletics programs in the country..? Unreal.

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    You guys are texas! you will turn it around, i know you will! everyone wants to go to texas!
    Is that supposed to be me? I don't get it.

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    I'll be amazed if they hang on to Buechele through all of this.
    Strong is very lucky the dead period starts Monday and Buechele is an early enrollee.

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    Strong is very lucky the dead period starts Monday and Buechele is an early enrollee.
    Going to be an interesting weekend with all the recruits in town. A lot of questions for him to answer.
    Last edited by Biily Ray Valentine; 12-11-2015 at 04:00 PM.

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    From Nahlin at Inside Texas:

    I'm in a bad spot to write but maybe now you're picking up what I've been putting down.

    Texas would prefer the illusion of support rather than actually supporting Strong. The BOR is dragging its feet with Gilbert like with bie. Whoever leaked the terms for bie (and it wasn't Strong's camp) are gumming up negotiations with other candidates.

    Basically, because the political cost of firing Strong was too great we're left with something that looks like this, something worse.

    I'm in a bad place to write right now. The plan was to get with JS and write everything we know on Monday but that won't suffice. I'll talk to him in a few and he'll get something posted.

    If you're blaming this on Strong you are incredibly disingenuous.

    Remember how I said a parting of ways was best? That's because Strong is bad for Texas and Texas is definitely bad for Strong. I knew it would be bad but not THIS bad.

    What an absolute embarrassment. The best course now, imo, is to probably part ways with Strong and shame the people who f***ed this last week up.

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    From Nahlin at Inside Texas:

    I'm in a bad spot to write but maybe now you're picking up what I've been putting down.

    Texas would prefer the illusion of support rather than actually supporting Strong. The BOR is dragging its feet with Gilbert like with bie. Whoever leaked the terms for bie (and it wasn't Strong's camp) are gumming up negotiations with other candidates.

    Basically, because the political cost of firing Strong was too great we're left with something that looks like this, something worse.

    I'm in a bad place to write right now. The plan was to get with JS and write everything we know on Monday but that won't suffice. I'll talk to him in a few and he'll get something posted.

    If you're blaming this on Strong you are incredibly disingenuous.

    Remember how I said a parting of ways was best? That's because Strong is bad for Texas and Texas is definitely bad for Strong. I knew it would be bad but not THIS bad.

    What an absolute embarrassment. The best course now, imo, is to probably part ways with Strong and shame the people who f***ed this last week up.

    Sounds like Strong was Sabotaged!

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    but you guys are texas! every oc should wanna go there! you will always be relevant! you guys will turn it around, i know you will!
    Really, from an Aggie? Hahahahahahaha!

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    remember det time you said Sumlin was an offensive guru and det Kingsbury was just playing off of Sumlin's schemes?

    Yeah that was funny then, ing hilarious now.
    I think it's certainly come to light that Sumlin is no offensive guru I will give you that but the schemes used by Spavital and A&M are the same exact ones currently used at Tech. There are some minor differences sure, but for the most part they run 80% of the same playbook (if you want to even call it a playbook). They just don't work near as easily against the caliber of defenders/defensive coordinators that the SEC has. Spavital's offense would probably beast it up in the Big12 tbh. Zero defense.

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    they're killing him in the comments

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    Holy what a dumpster fire. This is so embarrassing. How doe this happen to the biggest, richest, more powerful and most resourceful athletics programs in the country..? Unreal.
    LOL

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    they're killing him in the comments
    Dreaded vote of confidence?

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    From Burton

    Texas’ offensive coordinator search has taken place for less than a week, and it’s already devolved into a mess of cosmic proportions.

    Thursday evening Horns247 reported Tulsa co-offensive coordinator Sterlin Gilbert had agreed to become Texas’ next offensive coordinator. According to sources close to the situation, Gilbert had been offered the job and accepted it in a verbal agreement with Strong.

    The pair had a working understanding of what the parameters of the deal would look like, which is commonplace in the coaching industry. However, Thursday afternoon a FOX News affiliate in Tulsa reported Gilbert had turned down Texas' job. We at Horns247 can confirm he spurred Texas' initial offer, but cannot yet say negotiations between the two parties are finished.

    As for the details, that is where Strong came up short to close the deal.

    Gilbert told Strong from the outset that he wanted a three-year deal.

    But, for the second time in four days, when the contract details were supposed to be sent to the candidate, only a two-year deal had been approved.

    In both instances, including the contract negotiations with TCU co-offensive coordinator Sonny bie, Strong failed to get any prior approval from the Texas administration for a three-year deal.

    Strong has had months to get prior approval of a three-year deal for candidates, and he knew the candidates wanted a three-year guarantee but never took the action necessary or even adequately communicated that to the Texas administration.

    After getting further details and making sure the president of the university was OK with it, the Texas administration agreed to the three-year term and money with Gilbert today.

    But by then, it appears the level of trust between Strong, Texas and Gilbert had been stretched too far.

    Furthermore, Gilbert, I am told, wanted to bring his offensive line coach Matt Mattox from Tulsa, but Mattox did not want to move and was not expected to follow Gilbert giving Gilbert even further reticence.

    So for the second time in less than a week, Strong did not get a three-year deal pre-approved by his bosses until contract negotiations had nearly reached their conclusion.

    In both instances with bie and Gilbert, the Texas admin approved the money and the three-year contract.


    Charlie Strong
    just couldn't close the deal.

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    I think it's certainly come to light that Sumlin is no offensive guru I will give you that but the schemes used by Spavital and A&M are the same exact ones currently used at Tech.
    well yeah, of course there's more to it than schemes. I'll agree that your OC sucks.

    There are some minor differences sure, but for the most part they run 80% of the same playbook (if you want to even call it a playbook). They just don't work near as easily against the caliber of defenders/defensive coordinators that the SEC has. Spavital's offense would probably beast it up in the Big12 tbh. Peewee football.
    Funny, Kliff didn't have that kind of trouble when he was there in aggyland.

    ......or against Arkansas this year...

    And we'll see pretty soon how many points he'll put up on LSU.

    I'll bet it'll be more than the 7 aggy scored.....and while using less talent to boot..

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    aggy showing up now that Austin is burning down

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    From Burton

    Texas’ offensive coordinator search has taken place for less than a week, and it’s already devolved into a mess of cosmic proportions.

    Thursday evening Horns247 reported Tulsa co-offensive coordinator Sterlin Gilbert had agreed to become Texas’ next offensive coordinator. According to sources close to the situation, Gilbert had been offered the job and accepted it in a verbal agreement with Strong.

    The pair had a working understanding of what the parameters of the deal would look like, which is commonplace in the coaching industry. However, Thursday afternoon a FOX News affiliate in Tulsa reported Gilbert had turned down Texas' job. We at Horns247 can confirm he spurred Texas' initial offer, but cannot yet say negotiations between the two parties are finished.

    As for the details, that is where Strong came up short to close the deal.

    Gilbert told Strong from the outset that he wanted a three-year deal.

    But, for the second time in four days, when the contract details were supposed to be sent to the candidate, only a two-year deal had been approved.

    In both instances, including the contract negotiations with TCU co-offensive coordinator Sonny bie, Strong failed to get any prior approval from the Texas administration for a three-year deal.

    Strong has had months to get prior approval of a three-year deal for candidates, and he knew the candidates wanted a three-year guarantee but never took the action necessary or even adequately communicated that to the Texas administration.

    After getting further details and making sure the president of the university was OK with it, the Texas administration agreed to the three-year term and money with Gilbert today.

    But by then, it appears the level of trust between Strong, Texas and Gilbert had been stretched too far.

    Furthermore, Gilbert, I am told, wanted to bring his offensive line coach Matt Mattox from Tulsa, but Mattox did not want to move and was not expected to follow Gilbert giving Gilbert even further reticence.

    So for the second time in less than a week, Strong did not get a three-year deal pre-approved by his bosses until contract negotiations had nearly reached their conclusion.

    In both instances with bie and Gilbert, the Texas admin approved the money and the three-year contract.


    Charlie Strong
    just couldn't close the deal.
    i don't believe none of this

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    From Burton

    Texas’ offensive coordinator search has taken place for less than a week, and it’s already devolved into a mess of cosmic proportions.

    Thursday evening Horns247 reported Tulsa co-offensive coordinator Sterlin Gilbert had agreed to become Texas’ next offensive coordinator. According to sources close to the situation, Gilbert had been offered the job and accepted it in a verbal agreement with Strong.

    The pair had a working understanding of what the parameters of the deal would look like, which is commonplace in the coaching industry. However, Thursday afternoon a FOX News affiliate in Tulsa reported Gilbert had turned down Texas' job. We at Horns247 can confirm he spurred Texas' initial offer, but cannot yet say negotiations between the two parties are finished.

    As for the details, that is where Strong came up short to close the deal.

    Gilbert told Strong from the outset that he wanted a three-year deal.

    But, for the second time in four days, when the contract details were supposed to be sent to the candidate, only a two-year deal had been approved.

    In both instances, including the contract negotiations with TCU co-offensive coordinator Sonny bie, Strong failed to get any prior approval from the Texas administration for a three-year deal.

    Strong has had months to get prior approval of a three-year deal for candidates, and he knew the candidates wanted a three-year guarantee but never took the action necessary or even adequately communicated that to the Texas administration.

    After getting further details and making sure the president of the university was OK with it, the Texas administration agreed to the three-year term and money with Gilbert today.

    But by then, it appears the level of trust between Strong, Texas and Gilbert had been stretched too far.

    Furthermore, Gilbert, I am told, wanted to bring his offensive line coach Matt Mattox from Tulsa, but Mattox did not want to move and was not expected to follow Gilbert giving Gilbert even further reticence.

    So for the second time in less than a week, Strong did not get a three-year deal pre-approved by his bosses until contract negotiations had nearly reached their conclusion.

    In both instances with bie and Gilbert, the Texas admin approved the money and the three-year contract.


    Charlie Strong
    just couldn't close the deal.
    I call BS on Burton. Really? It takes that long to go from a 2 to 3 year offer? You already went through this once and weren’t prepared in case 3 years was asked for? Stop blaming Charlie and give him what he needs or the program will continue to lose long after Charlie is gone.

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    I call BS on Burton. Really? It takes that long to go from a 2 to 3 year offer? You already went through this once and weren’t prepared in case 3 years was asked for? Stop blaming Charlie and give him what he needs or the program will continue to lose long after Charlie is gone.

    THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^!

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    Nothing Burton said makes sense.

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    Yeah you guys are stuck with Charlie for the foreseeable future

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    Yeah you guys are stuck with Charlie for the foreseeable future
    Foreseeable future might be a couple of days at this rate.

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    From Burton

    Texas’ offensive coordinator search has taken place for less than a week, and it’s already devolved into a mess of cosmic proportions.

    Thursday evening Horns247 reported Tulsa co-offensive coordinator Sterlin Gilbert had agreed to become Texas’ next offensive coordinator. According to sources close to the situation, Gilbert had been offered the job and accepted it in a verbal agreement with Strong.

    The pair had a working understanding of what the parameters of the deal would look like, which is commonplace in the coaching industry. However, Thursday afternoon a FOX News affiliate in Tulsa reported Gilbert had turned down Texas' job. We at Horns247 can confirm he spurred Texas' initial offer, but cannot yet say negotiations between the two parties are finished.

    As for the details, that is where Strong came up short to close the deal.

    Gilbert told Strong from the outset that he wanted a three-year deal.

    But, for the second time in four days, when the contract details were supposed to be sent to the candidate, only a two-year deal had been approved.

    In both instances, including the contract negotiations with TCU co-offensive coordinator Sonny bie, Strong failed to get any prior approval from the Texas administration for a three-year deal.

    Strong has had months to get prior approval of a three-year deal for candidates, and he knew the candidates wanted a three-year guarantee but never took the action necessary or even adequately communicated that to the Texas administration.

    After getting further details and making sure the president of the university was OK with it, the Texas administration agreed to the three-year term and money with Gilbert today.

    But by then, it appears the level of trust between Strong, Texas and Gilbert had been stretched too far.

    Furthermore, Gilbert, I am told, wanted to bring his offensive line coach Matt Mattox from Tulsa, but Mattox did not want to move and was not expected to follow Gilbert giving Gilbert even further reticence.

    So for the second time in less than a week, Strong did not get a three-year deal pre-approved by his bosses until contract negotiations had nearly reached their conclusion.

    In both instances with bie and Gilbert, the Texas admin approved the money and the three-year contract.


    Charlie Strong
    just couldn't close the deal.
    This is what a blowjob looks like in written form. Some booster or BOR came, and Burton swallowed.

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    Foreseeable future might be a couple of days at this rate.
    At least one more season

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    OrangeBloods reporting President Fenves is flying to Tulsa tonight to try and close Sterlin Gilbert.

    Sources say he's agreed to a three-year deal that will pay him $600K, $700K and $800K respectively through 2018.

    The hold-up right now is if Tulsa OL coach Matt Mattox will be coming with him.

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