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Tongue in cheek joke guys. Chill the out.
That pretty much sums up your entire Spurstalk existence. And the sad part is you weren't joking.
Tongue in cheek joke guys. Chill the out.
Tongue in cheek joke guys. Chill the out.
That pretty much sums up your entire Spurstalk existence. And the sad part is you weren't joking.
Kawhi vs. Dirk.
Both are great players despite their BGs.
Both are from fascist hinterlands.
Dirk from Deutschland.
Kawhi from Riverside.
Love Kawhi but he is not playing like a All Star or playing like someone we should given a max contract to either.
Agreed Kawhi is huge intangible guy for the spurs right now and without him their record is worse but at the same time he lacks consistency which is why he's not an all-star player.
There's a really strange argument in this thread about how the regular season is worthless but Spurs fans are upset that Kawhi isn't going to the ASG, which despite being a regular season award, somehow means a lot to them.
Kawhi has been hurt and Klay has been a monster this year. In the playoffs there's a real debate to be had about who might be better this year. But there's no debate as to who's had the better season.
Same to you my dude. Niner fans need to stick together imo.
I was kinda too harsh bc I thought you were missing the point too, and you're one of the most level-headed posters here.
I'd argue that Robinson is more accomplished.
2 rings Vs 1
Both have one MVP
Dirk has slightly more all star appearances.
Same number of all NBA first team awards...
Robinson had a Defensive player of the year and was blocks and rebounds leader.
He also has at least one Citizenship award.
Agree. The Spurs don't need players that think they are better than they really are.
Dirk has led his team to two Finals trips
He has led his team for over a decade and a half.
These things don't get one an award but they matter
Well, there is a rare tendency for NBA teams to max their best players.
Since his return Kawhi was playing at really good level, arguably the best Spurs player in those games until his last bad shooting nights. If you think sometimes eye test is a stand in for bias, AdjGS, OffRtg/DeffRtg, and another numbers can help...
It's hard to believe the team will lose an asset like Kawhi for nothing, but if the Spurs' FO agree with you and they don't want to offer him a max contract or match a max offer, probably after no-contenders/small market teams realize how less attractive they are to the Top/Big name-free agents, Kawhi'd sign a max/short term deal with one of those teams.
Considering the new TV deal and the Spurs rebuilding situation next seasons that deal would be one of the best scenarios for Kawhi, a very reasonable -and lucrative- option which will allow him to hit the market in 2017 as a just 25-year-old.
Anyway, nobody can't predict what will happen and the Spurs and Kawhi have bigger issues than the off-season right now, the team need a win streak to improve their seeding and Kawhi needs to get his shot back.
Yeah...after I posted that I thought about the Admiral. It's close IMO...But I'd still give the slight edge to Dirk.
And it pains me to say that....The Admiral is the sole reason why I'm a Spurs fan.
Same here.
Kawhi got snubbed period, his advanced stats on most of these "all stars". His overall impact is not fully reflected through basic stats lol.
People are too obsessed with regular stats, you can't properly judge a player through these. People forget how ty the Spurs were this year. No Mills, Splitter, Diaw regressed, Parker injured and has regressed into one of the worst PG's in the league, Belli injured, Ayres/Anderson/Daye/Bonner and others were filling in for Splitter. I think Daye/Anderson literally combined for like 0/30 3pt attempts at one point, the Spurs' 3pt game as a whole went from lights out in the playoffs to terrible. Diaw/Baynes/Ayres/Parker/Belli/Bonner, these are actually some of the worst defenders in the league as well, Parker literally the worst defender in the NBA.
Leonard was pretty much playing around lottery caliber team much of the season lol.
But I guess people don't think grabbing 8 boards a game against the all star bigs and forwards of the West isn't impressive, guarding the best team's player whether it's 1-4 night after night and keeping them from destroying your team, great help defense that won't show up on the stat sheet, shutting off entire areas of the floor improving everyone around you. His shot creation doesn't show up on the stat sheet either, he's very aggressive and breaks down the defense constantly, people often mistake it as being out of control, but they aren't paying attention to the defensive mismatches he's creating. He's sucking in the defense, allowing the Spurs to break down teams with ball movement, doesn't get assists.
Guess they'd rather have some guy jacking up 20 shots a game, not doing any of those things I just mentioned, their defense heavily negating much of what they've done offensively making their overall impact overrated.
Dude missed too many games.
Simple.
Robinson played very high level Defense for 12 years in the NBA.....
Dirk played defense sorta for a couple of years when the rest of his team was very very good.
Both ends of the court matter as well.
I forget but was it Dirk that choked away a championship at the line in 2013?Did dirk lose in the first round as the MVP?
Dude, just stop it. Stop trying to talk about Kawhi like you watch everygame he plays. If you knew how re ed your takes about him are you would kill yourself out of embarrassment.
Kawhi still isn't even the leader or best player on his own team.
Dirk in his old age still has proven he can put a mediocre team on his back and get to around the 45-50 win mark
Kawhi has never proven crap, other than the fact that he clearly is incapable of being the centerpiece of a serious team at this point of his career.
To the guy that laughed at me when I said Manu has always been the leader out of the big 3...You're a mainstream fan tbh..
It's clear as day that on court, Manu leads and Tony and Timmy listens
You need to be more specific.
Last edited by hater; 02-15-2015 at 12:24 PM.
Prove that Kawhi is clearly > Dirk.
In the NBA, yes. Being the Dallas Mavericks franchise player.
But internationally, I'd take Manu over Dirk leading Argentina to win Gold in the Olympics ...
I'm not saying Kawhi is clearly > Dirk. I haven't watched the _allas Chockericks all season long. I have watched the Spurs a lot though and I know how re ed it is to call Kawhi a "glue guy".
Manu's 4 rings, Gold medal, bronze medal and Worlds silver medal say hi. (You may not give a about things outside of the NBA but non US born players do).Let me start by saying I'm a huge Kawhi fan. BUT.....there is only one Spurs player in franchise history that's had a better "career" than Dirk. And that's Mr. Timmy Duncan.
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