This is how you post a fair and balanced poll on the issue:
I think partly it does. However the planet has gone thru a lot of stuff before. Also the Sun is expanding...everyday... the total power output of the sun increases as it is swelling up to a red giant over billions of years.
The Sun is not going to stop expanding either.... and if you do that math more solar energy = heat
poll
will any choice get more than 2 votes?
I think the poll needs an "Yes, and we'll all die quickly in a Day After Tomorrow type situation" option.
How about "Yes, and Dwayne Schintzius will be revealed as the antichrist" option?I think the poll needs an "Yes, and we'll all die quickly in a Day After Tomorrow type situation" option.
Dude, Dwayne Schintzius is your ing SAVIOR, man! Can't you see that?!?! Wake up! The signs are all around!! Follow the Man with the Mullet to the PROMISED LAND!!!!!!
I think there needs to be a 'blame the cows' option.
Because Buffalos never farted.
It's gettin' hot in here.....so take off all your clothes......
Because Buffalos never farted.
I posted an article in the hurricane thread and even termites are to blame!
Since this is a Political Forum where is the "Global Warming is "W's" Fault" option?
take your to the "Club Forum" !
Global Warming Fiction Vs. Facts
By Alan Caruba
MichNews.com
Jan 18, 2005
No, it doesn't exist other than in it's cyclical and we may be in the warmer part of the cycle.
The famed novelist, Michael Crichton, may achieve what mountains of scientific data produced by meteorologists and others have not. He may get the public to understand that the UN Kyoto Climate Control Protocol is, itself, a work of fiction.
His novel, “State of Fear”, (HarperCollins, 603 pages, $27.95) is a technopolitical thriller based on the widely ignored data that global warming is a hoax, but worse than that, it is a hoax specifically designed to harm the lives and the economy of people living in industrialized nations. It may well be the first novel to come complete with a section devoted to the data that demonstrates not only how false global warming is, but the impact it would have if the UN Protocol was strictly enforced.
When first proposed, the US Senate unanimously rejected the global warming treaty and, in his first term, President George W. Bush withdrew the Kyoto Protocol from consideration in 2001. If this action had not been taken and the treaty applied to the US, the country would have been required to reducing its greenhouse gas emissions by 7% below its 1990 level. They only way to achieve this would have been to impose strict energy use limits.
Take away energy or greatly reduce it and you create the conditions for an economic disaster and impact the lives and health of Americans from coast to coast. You invite draconian “solutions” such as limiting the use of air conditioning, gas rationing, and how many hours factories can operate.
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Green Myths On Global Warming — Debunked
1 MYTH Planet earth is currently undergoing global warming
FACT Accurate and representative temperature measurements from satellites and balloons show that the planet has cooled significantly in the last two or three years, losing in only 18 months 15% of the claimed warming which took over 100 years to appear — that warming was only one degree fahrenheit (half of one degree Celsius) anyway, and part of this is a systematic error from groundstation readings which are inflated due to the 'urban heat island effect' i.e. local heat retention due to urban sprawl, not global warming...and it is these, 'false high' ground readings which are then programmed into the disreputable climate models, which live up to the GIGO acronym — garbage in, garbage out.
2 MYTH Even slight temperature rises are disastrous, ice caps will melt, people will die
FACT In the UK, every mild winter saves 20,000 cold-related deaths, and scaled up over northern Europe mild winters save hundreds of thousands of lives each year, also parts of ice caps are melting yet other parts are thickening but this isn't reported as much (home experiment: put some water in a jug or bowl, add a layer of ice cubes and mark the level — wait until the ice has melted and look again, the level will have fallen). Data from ice core samples shows that in the past, temperatures have risen by ten times the current rise, and fallen again, in the space of a human lifetime.
3 MYTH Carbon Dioxide levels in our atmosphere at the moment are unprecedented (high).
FACT Atmospheric carbon dioxide levels, currently only 350 parts per million have been over 18 times higher in the past at a time when cars, factories and power stations did not exist — levels rise and fall without mankind's help.
4 MYTH Mankind is pumping out carbon dioxide at a prodigious rate.
FACT 96.5% of all carbon dioxide emissions are from natural sources, mankind is responsible for only 3.5%, with 0.6% coming from fuel to move vehicles, and about 1% from fuel to heat buildings. Yet vehicle fuel (petrol) is taxed at 300% while fuel to heat buildings is taxed at 5% even though buildings emit nearly twice as much carbon dioxide!
5 MYTH Carbon dioxide changes in the atmosphere cause temperature changes on the earth.
FACT A report in the journal 'Science' in January of this year showed using information from ice cores with high time resolution that since the last ice age, every time when the temperature and carbon dioxide levels have shifted, the carbon dioxide change happened AFTER the temperature change, so that man-made global warming theory has put effect before cause — this shows that reducing carbon dioxide emissions is a futile King Canute exercise! What's more, both water vapour and methane are far more powerful greenhouse gases than carbon dioxide but they are ignored.
6 MYTH Reducing car use will cut carbon dioxide levels and save the planet
FACT The planet does not need saving, but taking this on anyway, removing every car from every road in every country overnight would NOT produce any change in the carbon dioxide level of the atmosphere, as can be seen using the numbers from Fact 4, and in any case it is pointless trying to alter climate by changing carbon dioxide levels as the cause and effect is the other way round — it is changes in the activity of the Sun that cause temperature changes on earth, with any temperature rise causing carbon dioxide to de-gas from the oceans.
7 MYTH The recent wet weather and flooding was caused by mankind through 'global warming'
FACT Extreme weather correlates with the cycle of solar activity, not carbon dioxide emissions or political elections, the recent heavy rainfall in winter and spring is a perfect example of this — it occurred at solar maximum at a time when solar maxima are very intense — this pattern may well repeat every 11 years until about 2045.
8 MYTH The climate change levy, petrol duty, CO2 car tax and workplace parking charges are justifiable environmental taxes.
FACT As carbon dioxide emissions from cars and factories does not have any measurable impact on climate, these taxes are 'just another tax' on enterprise and mobility, and have no real green credentials.
9 MYTH Scientists on the Inter-governmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) issue reports that say 'global warming' is real and that we must do something now.
FACT Scientists draft reports for the IPCC, but the IPCC are bureaucrats appointed by governments, in fact many scientists who contribute to the reports disagree with the 'spin' that the IPCC and media put on their findings.
The latest report suggests that the next 100 years might see a temperature change of 6 Celsius yet a Lead Author for the IPCC (Dr John Christy UAH/NASA) has pointed out that the scenarios with the fastest warming rates were added to the report at a late stage, at the request of a few governments — in other words the scientists were told what to do by politicians.
10 MYTH There are only a tiny handful of maverick scientists who dispute that man-made global warming theory is true.
FACT There are nearly 18,000 signatures from scientists worldwide on a pe ion called The Oregon Pe ion which says that there is no evidence for man-made global warming theory nor for any impact from mankind's activities on climate.
Many scientists believe that the Kyoto agreement is a total waste of time and one of the biggest political scams ever perpetrated on the public ... as H L Mencken said "the fundamental aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed, and hence clamorous to be led to safety, by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary" ... the desire to save the world usually fronts a desire to rule it.
the FACT that this guy says "the planet does not need saving" is laughable
a ing Biology major drop out reject could even apply basic principles of ecology to what is going on today and realize that humans cannot keep reproducing exponentially, and their habitat (the entire world) is goign to come crashing down on them, forcing them to stop reproducing
Has anyone read "State of Fear"? I almost bought it last time I was at Half-Price Books.
I told you. It's the cow farts.
Excellent book!
The fact that you're arrogant enough to believe humans can make any appreciable difference in the longevity of this planet is laughable. The absolute worst we could accomplish is to make it uninhabitable for a short period of time...something meteors have already done...and will, by the way, do again.
I liked Prey and Timeline quite a bit. The only (sort-of) recent book of his I didn't like was The Lost World. Sounds like I'll check it out.
The fact that you fail to see the longevity of the planet means absolute to humans if there are no humans around to witness it shows just how little you understand the situation.
Humans are making an appreciable impact on this planet and I think anyone who denys that needs to have their head examined.
Don't go to 1/2 price books, I was reading Old yeller and 1/2 way through the book I noticed the rest of the pages were missing, Did they ever shoot that dog?
I have 1/2 a mind to sue that place, but my lawer wants 1/2 of his money up front, I rather spend my cash on getting a place to live , right now I am in a 1/2 way house. Let me know if you want to visit me, I can meet you 1/2 way,
I'm just hoping that after Looter gets through with their inventory, some of the books I want are among the 1/2 he left.
(PS - Old Yeller lives happily ever after, even though Young Yeller eats 1/2 his food and Travis starts banging that freakin' 'Lisbeth. Papa shot Katie instead and then hooked up with Joanie the somewhat respectable from Deadwood. At least they could have looted Ol' Yeller a to sniff asses with. Put the noble beast down if you're not going to provide for his needs.)
If Mount St. Helens erupted tomorrow, it'd do more harm in a day than humans have ever done.
Sure, lets keep poisoning this Earth, who gives a about future generations!
The scientfic evidence, from researchers from many countries, for human-caused global warming is overwhelming and irrefutable. One of many studies:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0909075709.htm
... but for shrub/Repugs, "more study" is needed, "study" obviously being one of shrub's amazing intellectual skills picked up in his affirmative-action years at Yale and Harvard.
Lying bas s protecting their paymasters in the polluting (energy) corps.
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