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    Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA · 2m2 minutes ago
    Yahoo Sources: Clippers meet with DeAndre Jordan, believe they're on cusp of convincing him to return. http://yhoo.it/1HNojtR

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    He's stayin.

    Mavs

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    Um...who do you think gets paid regardless of the outcome?
    Beh. I meant for Cuban. I'm betting Cuban has attorney (s) getting paid 24/7 whether they go to court or not.

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    If they change a rule, chances are it will be that the moratorium will stay, but when a team and a player agree prior to the end, then they both waive the moratorium and sign the deal right away.

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    Can Pop about this like he did with the CP3 trade? Can't hurt to try.

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    That really sucks for the Mavs, tbh

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    Well sure. What's the strategic value though.
    The strategic value is making somebody reconsider a decision because they don't want to deal with a lawsuit.

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    Yes and no. There's always a nuisance value to a lawsuit that has strategic benefits, which is what I think he's getting at.
    god damn it's annoying discussing things with you because I have to repeat myself and/or remind you what you just wrote.

    You said "strategic benefits". What are the potential "strategic benefits" here by pursuing this lawsuit.

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    Nobody deserves the ignoniminy of being promised a verbal commitment only to be scorned at the last minute.

    That being said, the rules on NBA contracts allow for this kind of thing and it is something that must be fixed if we want to avoid another The Begging and The Stalling.

    This is disgusting, -made stuff from the Clippers but it's right up their alley. It's only befitting behavior for a team full of cunts.

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    If they change a rule, chances are it will be that the moratorium will stay, but when a team and a player agree prior to the end, then they both waive the moratorium and sign the deal right away.
    There shouldn't be moratorium. Free agency should begin on the 1st of July. When a player agrees to terms, he signs the contract.

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    god damn it's annoying discussing things with you because I have to repeat myself and/or remind you what you just wrote.

    You said "strategic benefits". What are the potential "strategic benefits" here by pursuing this lawsuit.
    The strategic value is making somebody reconsider a decision because they don't want to deal with a lawsuit.

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    smart for Deandre, he's never getting another contract from any other team after today so might as well get that extra year with the Clipps tbh

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    If they change a rule, chances are it will be that the moratorium will stay, but when a team and a player agree prior to the end, then they both waive the moratorium and sign the deal right away.
    that would be the same thing as getting rid of the moratorium.

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    The strategic value is making somebody reconsider a decision because they don't want to deal with a lawsuit.
    in this case there's nothing to reconsider. Cuban wouldn't file until after the contract is signed. And if the contract is signed, what is there for the Clippers to reconsider?

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    This may become a trend, it's not illegal, the Players have that option and it's a card that I'm surprised has not been played before, on the other hand, Maybe Jordan realized that the Mavs aren't going anywhere but down even with him in the lineup.

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    This is an NBA team forum. A player agreed to a max contract several days ago, and now his old team is trying to get him to renege on that agreement. I'm unsure how any NBA fan can't see what a big ing deal this is.
    It's a huge deal, especially for the Mavs - they have planned their whole team around Jordan and now he's coming across as having a big lack of integrity problem - his word is worthless.

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    Hope he picks the Mavs... LAC being LAC..

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    DeAndre is so mentally weak, this probably destroys his focus for the rest of the year. He seems to be the kind of person that bows to the pressure of living up to a big contract.

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    This is an NBA team forum. A player agreed to a max contract several days ago, and now his old team is trying to get him to renege on that agreement. I'm unsure how any NBA fan can't see what a big ing deal this is.
    Thanks

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    god damn it's annoying discussing things with you because I have to repeat myself and/or remind you what you just wrote. You said "strategic benefits". What are the potential "strategic benefits" here by pursuing this lawsuit.
    Lawsuits don't count against the cap! (only half-kidding, really)

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    This DeAndre thing has inspired me. I've now started lobbying Aldridge to back out of his deal with us and head back to Portland. Did you guys really think I was about to give up all those shots without a fight?
    stupid ass troll

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    Instead of ending the moratorium, just come up with a system that rewards players for sticking to verbal agreements and punishes them for backing out. Something like 2% of the contract's value paid to the player by the league (doesn't count against the cap) for a verbal agreement they stick to, and a 2% penalty (the full salary still counts against the cap) if they back out of a verbal agreement.

    The point of the moratorium is that the cap isn't set, so you can't put specific dollar amounts on contracts yet. A percentage penalty gets around that.

    I guess "verbal" agreements would have to be signed and faxed to the league, though.

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    in this case there's nothing to reconsider. Cuban wouldn't file until after the contract is signed. And if the contract is signed, what is there for the Clippers to reconsider?
    I was speaking generally, not specifically about the DJ situation. But if Cuban were deadset on litigation (which I'm almost positive he's not and no lawsuit will or should be filed), he could file a TRO.

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    11:00 in Houston is going to be interesting. There's still time to hop in the car and drive there to see Clips and Mavs hand him a contract and watch him flip out. I hope someone gets it on video.

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    be funny if the contract had suns on it and he signed it
    monkeyball is that stupid

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