LOL CLIPPERS

[tholdren]

Comedy Gold

which is why the world is becoming a terrible place - kids without a job thinking this is funny.

[Mr. Body]

Bull . DJ orchestrated the whole thing because he was too chicken to keep his word or even tell Cuban he changed his mind. It's all on him. End of story.

You're kidding yourself. The rest of the team come off super bad from this.

[Clipper Nation]

You're kidding yourself. The rest of the team come off super bad from this.

The rest of the team was widely hated to begin with, much of it justified and some of it unjustified, so of course people are going to reach for reasons to blame them for it. At the end of the day, though, this is simply about one "man" who couldn't keep his word. No different than what Brand did to us.

[Gooshie]

If I were Cuban, I would call Paul Pierce directly right now and offer him a one year max, $20million+ contract. Let's see him say no to that.

[Mr. Body]

The rest of the team was widely hated to begin with, much of it justified and some of it unjustified, so of course people are going to reach for reasons to blame them for it. At the end of the day, though, this is simply about one "man" who couldn't keep his word. No different than what Brand did to us.

You're kidding yourself.

[picnroll]

The league is the owners and the owners just saw the Clippers totally up the system that teams restructure during the off season. There will be repercussions and changes, bet on it.

[Obstructed_View]

And? He begged them to come to his house and meet with him because he backed out of the deal with Dallas. He also cut off all communication with Dallas yesterday, apparently.

It's very obvious that DJ did (ironically) the same thing Elton Brand did to the Clippers - gave his word to one team, decided he made a mistake, backed out of the deal, turned his phone off and hid from his now former team, and signed elsewhere. Back in the day, Brand got all the blame for that little maneuver. Why it's somehow not DJ's fault now is beyond me.

Are you for real? Because the entire Clippers organization came running. Elton Brand and his agent never claimed to have made any verbal agreement, he just opted out to help the team sign free agents, and negotiations broke down after Baron Davis was signed. And nobody in the Sixers organization showed up at his house at any time, blocking representatives from other teams from getting in the ing door.

[picnroll]

The rest of the team was widely hated to begin with, much of it justified and some of it unjustified, so of course people are going to reach for reasons to blame them for it. At the end of the day, though, this is simply about one "man" who couldn't keep his word. No different than what Brand did to us.

Why did the bags all have to go to Houston if it was all on Jordan?

[Axegrinder]

Det Aggie edumacation tho

[Aztecfan03]

This is so ed up. If Jordan doesn't commit they'd have been able to at least land Lopez or Koufos, or maybe Asik.

Keep Chandler or Greg Monroe

CHandler and monroe committed well before DJ, and I think Lopez did too.

[Obstructed_View]

Fans won't forget this - just as they haven't forgotten Boozer and Brand.

Brand never made a verbal agreement. He opted out, not the team. There was a bidding war during the moratorium. The Clippers felt screwed by it because they signed Baron Davis at Brand's request, then they couldn't offer Brand enough money to keep him. Dunleavy later, in an attempt to save face, claimed to have offered Brand more money than was possible under the salary cap.

[Aztecfan03]

I think the Mavs easily keep Chandler if they offer the same 4/52 deal he took with Phoenix.

doesn't matter. He was committed well before jordan committed.

[Despot]

Wow... This is so weird it brought me out of Lurkmode. Not even the LMA news got my lazy ass to type in my password.

My takeaway...

Free agency will have major tweaks coming.

Imagine the cavs sending Lebron to the spurs on the first day of the moratorium so that the Spurs do not pursue Aldredge, only to have Lebron take his talents back to Cleveland at the last minute. Too much room for shady stuff to go on.

While I am not sure DJ or the Clippers can be sued, fined or punished, they will surely face repercussions by other teams, players etc. Would several free agents who agreed to terms after DJ have a legal argument to say they took deals at C-market value when they could have gotten B-market value? What happens if Cuban accuses the Clippers of planning this? That could surely open up legal avenues. Either way I am sure the NBA Lawyers are going over various agreements as we type to ensure any type of punishment. Remember, At first everyone said Silver could not force out Sterling.

I believe the Clippers are trying to be funny and are exaggerating about not leaving his house to get him to sign and to deflect what big bags they are being. That and joking about kidnapping will backfire for them and the rest of the league in the future. I am pretty sure they got there, he said "yeah I'll come back, by the way, why don't you guys stay the night?" I could see rules regulating ac ulated time and money spent among other things recruiting free agents.

Maybe a letter of intent with some more legal bite than say a college letter of intent. Hefty fine for breaking intent.

Maybe DJ was upset about not being the big story in Free agency this year? Well, he will be remembered along time for this, especially when the DJ free agency rules take effect.


***Edit*** Forgot what signature I had, kinda awkward....

[Obstructed_View]

I have to say, on top of this offseason for the Spurs, this is pretty ing entertaining. Spurstalk hasn't been this much fun in a long time.

[Clipper Nation]

Are you for real? Because the entire Clippers organization came running. Elton Brand and his agent never claimed to have made any verbal agreement, he just opted out to help the team sign free agents, and negotiations broke down after Baron Davis was signed. And nobody in the Sixers organization showed up at his house at any time, blocking representatives from other teams from getting in the ing door.

Mike Dunleavy has said multiple times that Brand told him to his face that he was coming back, conditional to the Baron signing, and even shook on it. After we signed Baron, he stopped answering any calls from the Clippers altogether (like DJ), signed elsewhere (like DJ), and tried to pin it on his agent (like DJ).

[picnroll]

Chandler probably made his decision based on thinking he could get Aldridge to go to the Suns.

[Obstructed_View]

Mike Dunleavy has said multiple times that Brand told him to his face that he was coming back, conditional to the Baron signing, and even shook on it. After we signed Baron, he stopped answering any calls from the Clippers altogether (like DJ), signed elsewhere (like DJ), and tried to pin it on his agent (like DJ).

Dunleavy also, as I posted above, said that he offered Brand more money than he was able to, which is bull . Brand's agent said that Dunleavy was attempting to negotiate with Brand without his agent present, and there was never a news release of any kind saying that Brand had agreed to anything with the Clippers.

[GSH]

Brand never made a verbal agreement. He opted out, not the team. There was a bidding war during the moratorium. The Clippers felt screwed by it because they signed Baron Davis at Brand's request, then they couldn't offer Brand enough money to keep him. Dunleavy later, in an attempt to save face, claimed to have offered Brand more money than was possible under the salary cap.

And the Cavs tried to make a wink-wink agreement with Boozer, which is totally out of bounds. They said that they would let him out of the team option, and then re-sign him to a big contract. Still a chicken move by Boozer, but the Cavs owner knew he was breaking the rules, too.

[TheGoldStandard]

CHandler and monroe committed well before DJ, and I think Lopez did too.

I get that but if you're Dallas you walk away from the initial pitch or their second conversation especially after LAC made their pitch and they feel great about their situation so they let DAJ marinate on it thinking they have it in the bag meanwhile they stopped making calls on other players. If after there initial dinner and conversation if they felt he was leaning towards LAC they would have made other phone calls I'm sure but they felt they were all in on him and I'm sure they gave that impression.. Regardless its just bush league for a player to do that and waste a teams time. No matter... the guy earned himself some serious bad karma

[Obstructed_View]

And the Cavs tried to make a wink-wink agreement with Boozer, which is totally out of bounds. They said that they would let him out of the team option, and then re-sign him to a big contract. Still a chicken move by Boozer, but the Cavs owner knew he was breaking the rules, too.

Yeah, I agree with that. If nothing else, I think it's fair to say the Cavs were guilty of being stupid, since Carlos would have been a RFA the next season. The resignation of Boozer's agent suggests that he wasn't on board with what Boozer did, though.

I don't know how the Mavs can look out for their interests if a guy locks up all their cap money for five or six days and then goes back to his team an hour before the moratorium ends. If this becomes okay for players and teams to do, this process is going to ing suck.

[baseline bum]

First thing I thought of

Pop never spoke to Arn Tellem (Murray's agent) again.

(Damn, I just read that Tellem is now working in the Pistons front office. Don't expect any Spurs/Pistons trades any time soon.)

Did you know Tellem is only one month removed from being Aldridge's agent? Holy the Pistons did the Spurs a solid.

[Despot]

And the Cavs tried to make a wink-wink agreement with Boozer, which is totally out of bounds. They said that they would let him out of the team option, and then re-sign him to a big contract. Still a chicken move by Boozer, but the Cavs owner knew he was breaking the rules, too.

I just refreshed myself about the other instances where these instances occurred. NONE are as cut and dry as what DJ has done. Not even close. Others are all he said she said, and could have been GM's and coaches trying saving face and it gets out of hand.

[cutewizard]

this is surreal!!!!

hahahahaha

[cutewizard]

check this out:

http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/...-all-out-emoji

[physics dude]

Reading through this thread as a die hard Mavs fan since 1980 makes me step back and realize how much class you all have. Huge difference between this place and Clutch Fans.