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Nothing harden can't do. Hardin is a lot faster too.
And that's coming from a hard on hater btw
Why would you ever think that? Anderson will be lucky if his contract ever gets renewed and you think he's Manu' replacement?
Nothing harden can't do. Hardin is a lot faster too.
And that's coming from a hard on hater btw
Well in the military, they actually judge you based off two IQ's, Intelligent and Emotional. Intelligence is of course how smart you are. Emotional is how well you handle stress and adversity and if you can still function at a high level despite it. Actually I am one of those people that actually function better under stress. I love stress to be honest.
Bonner has a low Emotional IQ, which is why he chokes in the playoffs. No doubt he is an extremely smart guy, but it is evident that his emotional IQ is low compare to his intelligence based on his performances when the stakes are higher.
To have a high BB IQ imo is having both a very high intelligence/high to above average emotional IQ and very high emotional IQ/high to above avg intellgent IQ.
Bonner has an extremely high intelligent IQ, but has a low emotional IQ, which puts him at an avg BB IQ. Duncan is one of those rare players that have an Extremely High Intelligent IQ and an Extremely high Emotional IQ. Manu, Diaw, and KA possess that but not on Duncan's level.
Interesting take, but I think you are taking some big leaps. I have no doubt that his bbiq is quite high. Likely the best future coach candidate on the roster
kyle anderson is lottery talent - 99% of ST when he was drafted....
Oh yes, I think Bonner will make a great asst. coaching candidate, but I see him more as a FO guy (probably replacing RC in the future) as he isn't fiery enough to be a HC in league, just my opinion.
And yes, he is more than intelligent to play in the Spurs system. That is why he thrives during the regular season when team's don't play playoff bb. But once teams turn up the defensive intensity, Bonner starts looking lost out there as he cracks underneath the pressure. I have watch 100's if not over 1000 Spurs game, so I am not making this observation on a whim.
High BB IQ is just not knowledge of the game, it's how you play the game as well.
Bonner doesn't thrive. He is a one dimensional player who gets open looks and does the only thing he can do semi-effectively = hit a wide open three. About a billion other players could come in and knock down a wide open NBA three 35-40% if asked not to do anything other than get to an open spot and shoot the ball. He doesn't dribble, he doesnt drive, he doesn't assist, he gets to a spot in the regular season and he does what any decent basketball player would do - knocks it down... unless it is a pressure shot. Then you should give it to any high school kid and let them take the shot. Character guy that should have never made the nba.
Leading the NBA in 3 pt shooting 3 times I believe when with the Spurs does equate to Thriving in a SYSTEM. Really, what would you call that. His regular season career FG% is at 50% with the Spurs, nearly 42% on 3's. In the playoff, it drop ts to 40% 2p and 35% 3p (with few 3pt attempt per game).
Matt Bonner is an NBA caliber player. He just not a NBA playoff caliber player.
Bonner's body/athleticism betrays him in the PO's. While every top-tier athlete is running on a 7 in their playing speed during the regular season, Bonner is running at 9/10. When the PO's arrive, everybody turns it up, while Bonner looks like a little un-athletic kid playing against men.
les
Serie A: 2001
Italian Cup: 2001, 2002
Euroleague: 2001
NBA championships: 2003, 2005, 2007, 2014
NBA runner-up: 2013
National selection
Gold Medal: 2001 FIBA Americas Championship Neuquen.
World runner: US 2002.
Olympic gold medal Athens 2004.
Gold Medal: 2008 FIBA Diamond Ball.
Olympic bronze medal Beijing 2008.
Gold Medal: FIBA Americas Championship 2011 Mar de Plata.
Awards
Disclosure of LNB: 1995-1996
Most Improved Player of the LNB: 1997-1998
All-Star of the Italian league: 1999, 2000, 2001
Most Improved Player of the Italian league: 2000, 2001, 2002
Finals MVP of the Euroleague: 2001
MVP of the Italian Cup: 2002
All-Star NBA: 2005, 2011
Better quintet World: 2002, 2006
Better quintet of the Olympic Games: 2004
MVP of the Olympic Games: 2004
Olimpia de Oro: 2003, 2004 (shared with Carlos Tevez)
50 largest contributors to the Euroleague: 2008
NBA Sixth Man of the Year Award: 2008
Third All-NBA Team: 2008 and 2011
Bright Konex the best athlete of the decade in Argentina: 2010
Kids Choice Awards Argentina 2011 "Best Sportsman of the Year" (Nominated)
Kids Choice Awards Argentina 2012 "Best Sportsman of the Year" (Nominated)
Probably by a hair(comparing both primes) but not by much, but prime Manu had more hops. Nowadays, Harden is faster as Manu is 80 years old. The only thing Harden is better than Manu is that he is stronger and a better mid range shooter, but Manu is a better passer, defender, and better teammate too.
I believe hard on is top 10 fastest on fast break. Manu never competed in that regard. He was never knows for his speed but for his smarts.
I agree prime Manu was superior in most other aspects besides shooting. But old Manu these days is more comparable to Jeremy lin
I agree. And if Manu did what Harden did and left the Spurs in his prime, he too would've been a threat for scoring championships and MVPs.
Man that video was awesome! With Tim & Manu in particular, they are so far past their primes that you almost forget how fast and athletic they were when they were young.
Is there another Shooting Guard outside of Kobe and Wade that you would take over the last 15 years? Manu was, and is, amazing.
Not true. Manu never had the durability that is required. He was always injured at some point in the season. (sometimes it hurt us because he was injured in the playoffs)
he would have never been a threat to scoring champions or MVP because of that reason.
The current version of Kyle can't instigate or facilitate anything at the NBA level, IMO. He's ball dominant, has questionable handles, not a noteworthy passer or playmaker, he has a high but extremely slow release, and he's not an elite shooter. He's not very crafty and I see his pump fake finishes around the rim as an actual detriment, as they're the typical finishes that get blocked in the league. He's too big and slow to stay in front of any guards on the other end. His pluses would be that he's not afraid of contact on the offensive end and that seemingly has good timing for steals and rebounding.
It's because of the pluses that he slots as a SF. But, IMO, the negatives are too glaring at this stage for him to fill out any role as a guard other than "spot up shooter" (and even that is debatable).
Don't get me wrong, I want Kyle to do well, but I was hoping he was much farther along in his development in year #2. Either a much better shooter, or a better one on one defender, or better off-the-ball player, etc. The kind of niches that allow a player with well known limitations to stick in this league. I just hasn't seen that yet.
I don't really put a lot of stock in dleague... plenty of guys that average 20 ppg but once they're called up, it doesn't translate. IIRC, the Spurs had some of those too. In the summer league, you can generally spot fairly quickly who's ready for the NBA. When Kawhi had his first and only summer league, he was extremely dominant, to the point that the Spurs ended up pulling him for the last few games. Neal was another guys that shoot lights out, and you knew what his niche would be as an NBA player. With Kyle it's more like he has a good game here or there, but rarely you could really say he was the best player on the floor that game. I get the feeling that he should really be standing out against this kind of talent, but he really isn't.
On the other hand, I hope the Spurs do bring him into the roster this year, just so they can take a good look at him and make some long term decisions about him.
Harden ain't squat compared to Ginobili. Its so easy to see how people are more influenced by the current than the past. They forget how he was on D. When he was leading the league in steals he made it seem like there were six people on the court. The offense couldn't relax because he would go for steals when normally everyone else would be trotting down the court or thinking about where they were supposed to be. Manu was everywhere and would cause immense stress on the O. He was a crazy man on the court.
Shhh dont say that, trolls will say Harden never had Duncan to cover his back, its virtually impossible to win without Tim Duncan, only MJ did it.
Harden and prime Duncan
Scary thought
we had better.
Scary thought
Harden, prime TD, Steven Adams, Matt Barnes and Dellavedova.
Scary thought
Lebron coming from the bench, Manu is the towel boy and Harden pats on his head.
Patty too
Too bad Harden never evolved a complete pick and roll game as Ginobili did, heŽll never be able to assist as Manu did with Tim because he is more of a finisher than Ginobili.
Scary thought
joke or not?
splitter couldn't even post-up fisher
You need many sources of awesomeness to get 5 les, 4 with Manu and Parker.
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