Do you know that putting your takes in all caps doesn't make them any better?JIMMER IS GARY NEAL 0.5
Pretty sure the argument has ran it's course, tbh....
I'm excited about Jimmer as well. I think he'll be on the squad at least through Jan. 10. So, it's not like I'm even stressing on that point.
I think Jimmer can or will generate much excitement with his play, tbqh.
Do you know that putting your takes in all caps doesn't make them any better?JIMMER IS GARY NEAL 0.5
Name 2015-16 2016-17 2017-18 2018-19 2019-20 LaMarcus Aldridge $19,689,000 $20,575,005 $21,461,010 $22,347,015 Kawhi Leonard $16,407,500 $17,638,063 $18,868,625 $20,099,189 $21,329,752 Tony Parker $13,437,500 $14,445,313 $15,453,126 Danny Green $10,000,000 $10,000,000 $10,000,000 $10,000,000 Boris Diaw $7,500,000 $7,000,000 $7,500,000 Tim Duncan $5,250,000 $5,643,750 Patty Mills $3,578,947 $3,578,948 Manu Ginobili $2,814,000 $2,940,630 David West $1,499,187 $1,551,659 Boban Marjanovic $1,200,000 $1,500,000 Reggie Williams $1,185,784 Kyle Anderson $1,142,879 $1,192,080 $2,151,704 $3,227,556 Ray McCallum $947,276 $1,215,696 Matt Bonner $947,276 Jimmer Fredette $947,276 Jonathan Simmons $525,093 $874,636 $1,214,746 Youssou Ndoye Guaranteed Total: $85,248,687 $69,237,329 $65,782,761 $20,099,189 Inclusive Total: $87,071,718 $88,155,780 $76,649,211 $55,673,760 $21,329,752
Lol, someone posted Bruno's comment about Pincus messing up. Hopefully it gets a reply tbqh.
I had originally heard that Simmons had signed for two years. I'm guessing the third year is a player option? If so, he'll probably turn that down and sign for more. But if it's a team option, that's gonna be a heck of a value.
^ It's a QO. Deal is 2 years, 2nd year non guaranteed.
3rd year is a qualifying offer, so he can be restricted on 3rd year. So, he can be locked in for 2 years with Spurs.
Interesting about Kyle Anderson, this is his last year if he doesn't deliver. Next year is team option. I think a lot of his detractors like this.
This chart makes it look like Jimmer and Bonner are competing for the same contract. Bonner is perfectly content to sit in street clothes, I wonder if Jimmer will feel the same.
If KA doesn't have a good season but shows improvement, I'd think the Spurs would exercise his option. Though, they might trade him after the fact.
At worst, Kyle is playing for his fourth year, not his third. Teams have to pick up those options by 10/31. With Anderson's SLMVP performances, he's a lock to get that option picked up. However, I guess there's a chance he doesn't get 2017-2018 picked up next year if he doesn't have a good upcoming season.
10/31/2016. He's got one year to deliver or get waived after. Update: Waived or traded.
No. It's 10/31 this season for 2016-2017.
One year ahead?
Yes. 10/31/2016 is the deadline for 2017-2018.
Interesting. So it's likely Spurs pick up that option. Anderson 2 more years then.
chart doesn't say it, but if you go to the website, you can find out that they have the partial guarantees that have already been discussed. reggie williams has none.
This is an amazing thread.
I have no idea why there's a question around Anderson. He's cheap, under team control for three more years, and is developing nicely as a prospect. I don't know that he'll ever be more than a role player/bench guy, but not everyone the Spurs sign or draft can be Kawhi. Seems like a foregone conclusion he'd be with the team through his rookie contract.
KA is definitely in the Spurs plans for the foreseeable future, imo. I'm not willing to say his ceiling is that low yet. He is an incredibly skilled and intelligent player with a body to grow into.
Spurs fans have very high expectations for 1st round draft picks. Unfortunately, for the last 11 years, it's been mostly busts. Only Splitter and Hill made contributions in the playoffs.
2014 - Kyle Anderson
2013 - LJC <----------------bust (could have drafted Gobert)
2012 - no picks
2011 - Cojo <--------------- no contribution in the playoffs except for a great dunk on Ibaka
2010 - James Anderson <---bust
2009 - no picks
2008 - George Hill
2008 - no picks
2007 - Splitter
2005 - Ian Mahinmi <--------bust
2004 - Beno Udrih <----------bust
Beno, Hill, Cojo, and Splitter are all solid picks. That's not bad. And then there is the Kawhi trade that showcased their drafting ability as well.
Hard to call players busts that were picked at the end of the first and played out their first contract, and in most cases into a second or third. Mahinmi and Beno aren't world beaters, but they contributed a decent amount in their time with the Spurs. The only true bust on that list is James Anderson, and his career with the Spurs was derailed by injury tbqh. Jury is still out on LJC, but I'd probably give you that one too.
I think KA is probably somewhere between Hill and Splitter when all is said and done tbqh.
Yeah. Not to mention that not only did Ian and Beno contribute some to The Spurs, they further proved serviceable to other NBA teams afterwards. Not bad resumes for late draft picks. LJC may never amount to anything, but the rest of the list is pretty solid given their draft positions.
Spurs consider not winning the championship a failure.
So a non-bust in my classification is someone who materially contributed to a championship. That would be (1) Splitter who started and (2) Hill who got traded for Leonard.
Beno won a championship, but it was despite of his bad PG play.
If that's how you classify it, then so be it. Personally, I wouldn't hinge one player's success in a Spurs uni on the outcome of what would be a full team effort. But to each their own.
Yeah. Beno has had a ten year NBA career picked 28th. Pretty darn good. Definitely not a bust vs position in the draft. Ian, similarly, has had a good career vs draft position. 28th pick, as well. Both still playing last year. Lost of first rounders never play at all, much less that long. Much less ones drafted that late.
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