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    So Duncan wasn't in his prime in 05 and 07? ambchang
    Can you not read, re ed, or both?

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    Dream was the best player on the team and when it counted. tychang

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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    Can you not read, re ed, or both?
    He was outplayed by Ginobli in 05. Ginobli was much more efficient.

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    He was outplayed by Ginobli in 05. Ginobli was much more efficient.
    Hakeem was outplayed by Carl Herrera in 94 vs. the Knicks, Herrera was much more efficient.

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    Hakeem was outplayed by Carl Herrera in 94 vs. the Knicks, Herrera was much more efficient.
    Mornin', s.

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    It's none of your business. Go latch on to Pau some more.

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    You follow me around a lot lately, and with zero content to boot. What's up?

    You enjoy people reminding you of you pre-Pau Suns days?

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    Hakeem was outplayed by Carl Herrera in 94 vs. the Knicks, Herrera was much more efficient.
    What's funny is in one thread you devalue winning back to back. And in another you credit Pau Gasol as the leader of that back to back Lakers team, and in another thread you credit Derek Fisher as the leader. In Kobe threads, you are happy to bring up the metrics and shooting percentages when he is outplayed, but getasshurt when it comes to Duncan.

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    What's funny is in one thread you devalue winning back to back. And in another you credit Pau Gasol as the leader of that back to back Lakers team, and in another thread you credit Derek Fisher as the leader. In Kobe threads, you are happy to bring up the metrics and shooting percentages when he is outplayed, but getasshurt when it comes to Duncan.
    When did I discredit winning b2b? Again, you have comprehension problems, are you re ed, or both? Winning b2b is tough, because you won 2 championships by definition.

    And Fisher was the leader on that Lakers team, many signs point to it, even Kobe alluded to it, Jackson said it.

    Finally, you have trouble distinguishing between a 17-year career and one series, so it sort of answered my question, you are definitely re ed, the remaining question is whether you have comprehension problems.

    Finally #2, any time Hakeem is not hailed as Allah himself, you get all butthurt. Are you his 14-year old mistress?

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    You follow me around a lot lately, and with zero content to boot. What's up?

    You enjoy people reminding you of you pre-Pau Suns days?
    Just checkin' assholes, s.

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    Just checkin' assholes, s.
    You check that often? Is it a sickness of yours?

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    When did I discredit winning b2b? Again, you have comprehension problems, are you re ed, or both? Winning b2b is tough, because you won 2 championships by definition.

    And Fisher was the leader on that Lakers team, many signs point to it, even Kobe alluded to it, Jackson said it.

    Finally, you have trouble distinguishing between a 17-year career and one series, so it sort of answered my question, you are definitely re ed, the remaining question is whether you have comprehension problems.

    Finally #2, any time Hakeem is not hailed as Allah himself, you get all butthurt. Are you his 14-year old mistress?
    Yet here you said Pau led that team. And called him a superstar because of it
    A player who can lead his team to back to back championship, including 3 straight finals appearances, is a superstar.

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=211783

    Ambchang, swerving between lanes like a drunk hillbilly on his tractor on the 4th of July.


    And I never said he was Allah. I said he was elite, which you said he wasn't.

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    You check that often? Is it a sickness of yours?
    Evenin', s.

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    Yet here you said Pau led that team. And called him a superstar because of it



    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=211783

    Ambchang, swerving between lanes like a drunk hillbilly on his tractor on the 4th of July.


    And I never said he was Allah. I said he was elite, which you said he wasn't.
    When did I say Hakeem is not a superstar and not elite.

    You are really a special kind of stupid. It's like you are trying to prove to me that no matter how stupid I think you are, you can top it.

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    Still checking? What did you find. Did you find your beloved Suns in there?

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    When did I say Hakeem is not a superstar and not elite.

    You are really a special kind of stupid. It's like you are trying to prove to me that no matter how stupid I think you are, you can top it.
    When you questioned what he had done that made him one of the top alpha dogs. You like to backtrack though and pick more than one lane.

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    When you questioned what he had done that made him one of the top alpha dogs. You like to backtrack though and pick more than one lane.
    He can be frustrating that way ...

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    Still checking? What did you find. Did you find your beloved Suns in there?
    Mornin', s.

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    When you questioned what he had done that made him one of the top alpha dogs. You like to backtrack though and pick more than one lane.
    So you thought I said wilt and lebron sucked despite me stating, explicitly, that being great doesn't me bein alpha?

    You confirmed my second question, you can't read.

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    So you thought I said wilt and lebron sucked despite me stating, explicitly, that being great doesn't me bein alpha?

    You confirmed my second question, you can't read.
    Who gives a . Did they win rings as the man? If you ring as the main guy, you're an alpha.

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    None of that makes him an alpha.

    Alpharism has everything to do with at ude and how a team is led rather than how talented a player is. Otherwise, Wilt would have been an alpha as well, Lebron would have been one of the greatest alphas of all time.

    And funny how you talk about no help and how Hakeem beat Robinson. The irony.
    Who gives a . Did they win rings as the man? If you ring as the main guy, you're an alpha.
    This is your definition, not mine, so it's moot.

    Wilt, Hakeem and Lebron won 2 rings each. Duncan won 5 (4 or 5 as the lead), Shaq won 4 (3 as the lead), Russell won 11, MJ won 6, Magic 5 (around 2 or 3 as the lead), Kareem with 6 (4 or so as the lead), Mikan's got 5, Bird's got 3. So even with your definition, Hakeem isn't a top tier alpha, which is what I wrote all along. By your own definition, he is on the same tier as Thomas, Wilt, and Lebron.

    Try to follow along with the conversation, alright?

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    He can be frustrating that way ...
    Read what I just wrote. I have been about as consistent as you can be from the get go. issue with djohn2oo8 is that he can't read, and immediately loses his cool whenever someone mentions Hakeem isn't the greatest thing to happen to mankind since electricity.

    He defines the greatest of an alpha as winning rings as the lead? Well then great!

    Duncan > Hakeem
    Russell > Hakeem
    MJ > Hakeem
    Shaq > Hakeem
    Bird > Hakeem
    Mikan > Hakeem
    Magic > Hakeem
    Thomas = Hakeem
    Lebron = Hakeem
    Wilt = Hakeem

    By his own definition, Hakeem is not a top tier alpha, more like a 3rd tier figure.

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    Yup, morning is when the sun rises, that's what you found.

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