Your Forbes article even states that buying from the black market costs about $300 more than buying from a gun store. More expensive = less buyers.
I also wonder if there are any statistics about how many murders are committed per year by guns bought from gun stores compared to guns bought illegally off the black market. I imagine the total for murders from guns bought legally from stores would be considerably higher.
You do realize you're comparing a ceremonial inbred family with no real responsibility to the rule of law, right? Of course, Britain is so ed up that they don't even have a single, coherent cons ution like countries that actually have their together all do.
>muh women and children
you lie. Let me tell you a story, one of his good comrades caught 2 s cutting telephone lines. He arrested them and took them in and when the guy asked my great grandfather if they were going to take them to the labor camp he calmly pulls out his sidearm and put one in each of their skulls. Sounds brutal? The week before my great grandfather lost one of his men because the partisan pulled out a knife and stabbed him and ran away. He died and my great grandfather went on to live another 60 plus years. That's war for you.
The most recent data I can find, although this relates to all crimes, not just murder:
A 1997 Justice Department survey of more than 18,000 state and federal convicts revealed the truth:
• 39.2% of criminals obtained a gun on the street or from an illegal source
• 8.3% of criminals actually bought their guns from retail outlets
With the work they do at the border? not likely.
Not sure why that separates 'guns bought from retail outlets' and 'guns obtained from a friend or family member', as they both come under legally acquired weapons, unless there's something illegal about giving a fellow family member a gun bought legally that I don't know about, especially since individual licenses are not required.
Put the two together and you get 47.9%
Not this current government obviously, but a hypothetical government that would implement strong gun laws on availability of firearms on a citizen level.
You asked for the difference between guns bought from gun stores and guns bought illegally. Since the data didn't back you up, you're now adding unrelated categories to try to make yourself look correct on this.
And you're doing the same by deterring away from murders specifically and bringing in general gun crime, DeAndre.
You asked for the difference between guns bought from gun stores and guns bought illegally. Since the data didn't back you up, you're now adding unrelated categories to try to make yourself look correct on this.
Because it's the only statistic I could find that specifically broke down the guns used in crime by their source, Michael Sonmore.
And how are 'guns bought from retail stores' and 'guns obtained from family members' unrelated? Legally possessed weapons, with the only difference being that somebody else bought the weapon legally before passing it on one time.
Because the people who legally bought the guns aren't the ones committing the crimes with it in that second category, Sonmore.
You can't have looked for too long. So you admit that you can't find any evidence to disprove the notion that more murders are committed by criminals who obtained a weapon through legal means rather than specifically from the black market?
Category? I'm saying both should be one because they both come under legally obtained weapons. It was your little article that did all the separating to support the clear pro gun agenda that website has.
Who says the friend or family member bought it legally?
All right, found some stats for gun homicides specifically:
And where did the bad people who did the shooting get most of their guns? Were those gun show "loopholes" responsible? Nope. According to surveys DOJ conducted of state prison inmates during 2004 (the most recent year of data available), only two percent who owned a gun at the time of their offense bought it at either a gun show or flea market. About 10 percent said they purchased their gun from a retail shop or pawnshop... and another 40 percent obtained it from an illegal source.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybel...rimes-plummet/
So far more homicides are happening with guns the criminal(s) bought from an illegal source than with guns the criminal(s) bought legally from a store.
Gun grabbing is a fetish for you liberals it gives you a sense of power living vicariously through the government. Good thing we will never be stupid enough to turn them loose. It'll remain nothing more than a fantasy for you fringe leftist extremists.
Far more people in the USA who own weaponry, a considerable majority, obtain weapons through legal means. Surely that can't be denied. Supporting my point that the black market isn't as popular for weaponry as pro gun nuts think...
So you admit that you can't find any evidence to disprove the notion that more murders are committed by criminals who obtained a weapon from the black market rather than through legal means?
gun control.
ONE SURVEY? That doesn't even tell us how many prisoners were surveyed???
Larry Bell...Larry Bell? I knew you'd struggle finding a non partisan source to list out your 'facts' but really? You couldn't do better than him?
If we're going to do the 'in a survey conducted' thing, maybe I should go get my own misleading polls and surveys that support me.
No , Sonmore. Gun ownership is legal in this country, after all. Most people obey the law, too.
It's a Department of Justice survey, moron.
"Forget the fact that you only quoted the relevant statistic, I've decided that it's a partisan source and therefore wrong!"
Also, where does it say homicide or murder specifically? All I see is 'gun crime' and 'offence' in that paragraph?
Gun control is and always will be about the control, not the gun.
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