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    It's a Department of Justice survey, moron.

    "Forget the fact that you only quoted the relevant statistic, I've decided that it's a partisan source and therefore wrong!"
    You were the one who quoted that, and then made the assertion that homicides are far more frequent in black market purchases from it, yet it says nothing of the sort there.

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    Also, where does it say homicide or murder specifically? All I see is 'gun crime' and 'offence' in that paragraph?
    In the previous paragraph:

    According to DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. gun-related homicides dropped 39 percent over the course of 18 years... Firearm homicides declined from 1993 to 1999, rose through 2006, and then declined again through 2011.

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    In the previous paragraph:

    According to DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. gun-related homicides dropped 39 percent over the course of 18 years... Firearm homicides declined from 1993 to 1999, rose through 2006, and then declined again through 2011.
    That doesn't tell us anything about legally or illegally obtained weaponry?? Why in the only paragraph about how weapons were obtained does the guy skip on mentioning murder or homicide, yet mentions homicide everywhere else when he's not talking about how the weapons were obtained?

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    Firearms used in homicides often purchased illegally

    http://www.publicintegrity.org/2014/08/25/15339/firearms-used-homicides-often-purchased-illegally

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    Just read through that entire article. And at no point does it tell us how legally or illegally obtained weapons relate to homicides. Should I go get some Huffington Post anti-gun articles if we're gonna do the no facts thing?

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    And at 'often' yet then proceeds to not prove this assertion whatsoever in the entire article.

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    Meanwhile, despite claiming that the number of legally-purchased guns used in homicides would be "considerably higher" than the number of illegally-purchased guns, Sonmorewizard has provided zero proof to support such a claim and has spent the whole time nitpicking stats.

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    More expensive = less buyers.
    Dem supply side, trickle-down economics

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    Oh it's my turn finally? Ok.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...ass-shootings/


    Data collected by Mother Jones looking back at the weapons used in the last 30 years of mass shootings in the U.S. show that legal weapons are the norm.

    "The guns. From 1984 to today, mass killers have utilized 22 shotguns, 23 revolvers, 29 rifles and 77 semiautomatic handguns. More than three quarters of these had been purchased legally."

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    And unlike Cuck Nation's sources, my source actually has a link between legally obtained weapons and murders.

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    Oh it's my turn finally? Ok.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...ass-shootings/


    Data collected by Mother Jones looking back at the weapons used in the last 30 years of mass shootings in the U.S. show that legal weapons are the norm.

    "The guns. From 1984 to today, mass killers have utilized 22 shotguns, 23 revolvers, 29 rifles and 77 semiautomatic handguns. More than three quarters of these had been purchased legally."
    Mass killings =/= all gun homicides. Try again, Sonmore.

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    Bernie probably didn't 'sink his campaign' with this BS.....but you know its only a matter of time before he turns into the anic...

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    Mass killings =/= all gun homicides. Try again, Sonmore.
    What?? They are specifically both murders

    And you say I flip flop and wriggle, Cuck Nation

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    My source provides actual numbers of people involved, yours does not. My source actually reference murder and how the weapons were obtained, yours do not. Far more concrete than any of your indirect stuff.

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    You've got nothing, Sonmore. You even flip-flopped from whining about "partisan sources" to quoting from ing Mother Jones.

    In conclusion, you've proven that you know nothing about guns or the Cons ution, and you think that making people store their guns at self-storage facilities that aren't likely to be close to their homes is a practical gun-control law. Keep making a fool out of yourself, though.

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    You've got nothing, Sonmore. You even flip-flopped from whining about "partisan sources" to quoting from ing Mother Jones.

    In conclusion, you've proven that you know nothing about guns or the Cons ution, and you think that making people store their guns at self-storage facilities that aren't likely to be close to their homes is a practical gun-control law. Keep making a fool out of yourself, though.
    You can't counter my source so cut it short and end it there. Not even an attempt to disprove my source properly.

    You're no better on this than you were on abortion, Cuck Nation.

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    LMAO I forgot about the British flag, lmao posting from the caliphate no wonder he's anti gun. Keeping your daughter safe from Pakistani rape gangs with a weapon is absolutely haram. Enjoy being a minority in London got

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    You even flip-flopped from whining about "partisan sources" to quoting from ing Mother Jones.
    It doesn't matter who the person is that used the information. Did you not see the diagram that specifically pointed out which guns were purchased legally and which were purchased illegally? Those were FACTS from after the shootings, nothing partisan there, unlike your sorry excuse for 'facts' from your sources.

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    You can't counter my source so cut it short and end it there. Not even an attempt to disprove my source properly.
    I've already countered it. The burden of proof is on you to show that guns that were legally purchased by the murderer were used in the majority of all gun homicides. You still haven't done that, Sonmore.

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    Oh it's my turn finally? Ok.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...ass-shootings/


    Data collected by Mother Jones looking back at the weapons used in the last 30 years of mass shootings in the U.S. show that legal weapons are the norm.

    "The guns. From 1984 to today, mass killers have utilized 22 shotguns, 23 revolvers, 29 rifles and 77 semiautomatic handguns. More than three quarters of these had been purchased legally."
    Do you mind adding up all of the mass gun cides since 1984 to today and subtracting that from all gun cides from 1984 to today?

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    Oh it's my turn finally? Ok.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...ass-shootings/


    Data collected by Mother Jones looking back at the weapons used in the last 30 years of mass shootings in the U.S. show that legal weapons are the norm.

    "The guns. From 1984 to today, mass killers have utilized 22 shotguns, 23 revolvers, 29 rifles and 77 semiautomatic handguns. More than three quarters of these had been purchased legally."
    When you narrow down the pool so far, of course you can find a statistic you think supports you.

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    I've already countered it. The burden of proof is on you to show that guns that were legally purchased by the murderer were used in the majority of all gun homicides. You still haven't done that, Sonmore.
    1.) What evidence from your sources do you have to disprove this? None, as none of them mentioned homicide specifically.

    2.) I've proven that mass murder is committed far more with legally obtained weapons than illegally, which is far more than you've been able to provide. You have not countered or disproved this at all.

    Try again, Cuck Nation.

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    Do you mind adding up all of the mass gun cides since 1984 to today and subtracting that from all gun cides from 1984 to today?
    Ah, old man! Turned up a bit late to defend Cuck Nation huh?

    What does that have anything to do with how weapons were obtained, legally or illegally?

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    When you narrow down the pool so far, of course you can find a statistic you think supports you.
    How is mass killing, one of the largest if not the largest form of murder 'narrow'? Surely this is as broad as it gets when it comes to murder on a national level. I'd get chastised if I brought up statistics on a local level, or just on the street. So I went as broad as I could, which is more than CN could do...

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