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    They wanted to find which of your adored AMERICAN gun dealers were selling guns ILLEGALLY.

    253,000 U.S. guns smuggled to Mexico annually, study finds


    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nati...e24746863.html


    2000 Illegal Weapons Cross US-Mexico Border Per Day: Report

    http://www.insightcrime.org/news-ana...rder-every-day

    Fast & Furious programs were STARTED BY DUBYA's DoJ, about which the Repugs showed no outrage.
    Fast and Furious was NOT started by Dubya, dumbass.

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    Those studies were totally fabricated out of bull .

    No wonder Boo eats them up.

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    Fast and Furious was NOT started by Dubya, dumbass.
    You Lie

    ATF gunwalking scandal

    "Gunwalking", or "letting guns walk", was a tactic of the Arizona Field Office of the United States Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), which ran a series of sting operations[2][3] between 2006[4]and 2011[2][5] in the Tucson and Phoenix area where the ATF "purposely allowed licensed firearms dealers to sell weapons to illegal straw buyers, hoping to track the guns to Mexican drug cartel leaders and arrest them."[6]

    These operations were done under the umbrella of Project Gunrunner, a project intended to stem the flow offirearms into Mexico by interdicting straw purchasers and gun traffickers within the United States.[7]

    The Jacob Chambers Case began in October 2009 and eventually became known in February 2010 as "Operation Fast and Furious" after agents discovered Chambers and the other suspects under investigation belonged to a car club.[1]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal

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    Dumbass

    gunrunner was done in a PARTNERSHIP with Mexico who picked up the tracking after the guns crossed the border. They even hid electronic trackers in the guns and arrested the gangster that received them.

    Fast and Furious just sent the guns South with no mexican knowledge and no supervision hoping they would be used to kill someone so it could be blamed on US gun dealers. ATF TOLD the gun dealers to sell to the straw purchasers when they reported their su ions to the ATF.,

    There is ZERO comparison you ing idiot.

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    gun walking is gun walking

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    After Fast and Furious blew up in his face he knew better than to go after them again. They WANTED those guns to go to Mexico and kill people and be discovered to have been sold in the US so they could use that as their political excuse to control gun sales. What they DIDN'T want discovered was that the ATF was intentionally sending the guns across the border to the drug cartels. OOPS.
    Sure, Cosmored, sure.

    You seriously believe this?

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    Sure, Cosmored, sure.

    You seriously believe this?
    Curious to hear what you think the purpose of Fast and Furious was.

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    After Fast and Furious blew up in his face he knew better than to go after them again. They WANTED those guns to go to Mexico and kill people and be discovered to have been sold in the US so they could use that as their political excuse to control gun sales. What they DIDN'T want discovered was that the ATF was intentionally sending the guns across the border to the drug cartels. OOPS.


    tinfoil hat much?

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    Curious to hear what you think the purpose of Fast and Furious was.
    Supposed to be a sting operation. I don't think any of the people orchestrating it really intended it to be some sort of propaganda ploy.

    That assumes a level of competence that wasn't in evidence.

    Can't say I read a lot on it though. Feel free to flesh it out, I would read whatever you posted.

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    Supposed to be a sting operation. I don't think any of the people orchestrating it really intended it to be some sort of propaganda ploy.

    That assumes a level of competence that wasn't in evidence.

    Can't say I read a lot on it though. Feel free to flesh it out, I would read whatever you posted.
    I really don't know but CC's story wouldn't surprise me if that was intended.

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    I really don't know but CC's story wouldn't surprise me if that was intended.
    Generally if the choice is between trying to figure out the most likely explanation for something the government does if the choice is simple incompetence or intentional evil plot, I place my bet on simple incompetence every time.

    I rarely lose that bet.

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    Generally if the choice is between trying to figure out the most likely explanation for something the government does if the choice is simple incompetence or intentional evil plot, I place my bet on simple incompetence every time.

    I rarely lose that bet.
    The government ENCOURAGED the sales. You should read up on it. In some cases the gun dealers CALLED the ATF when they suspected a straw purchaser and the ATF TOLD them to make the sale anyway.

    http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep...-guns-20110912

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