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    You can shove that statement up your ass. I am a proud Muslim, and it being mentioned to diss Amin Elhassan is pretty ing stupid and irrelevant. Even though I dislike the idiot and have even un-followed him on Twitter for his idiotic opinions, what his religion is of no matter to you or anyone else and obviously has no reflection on his sports opinion.
    Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu, brother/sister. Don't worry about that ing bigot, just pray that Allah might give him a blessing & enlightenment about Islam (hidayah), who knows ?

    Let's keep it about Basketball, for this sport knows no boundary of race, nationality, or religion. Wassalamualaikum.

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    The Thunder posed the greatest threat to the Spurs.

    I'm not saying the Mavericks were some great team, I'm saying relative to a typical bottom few seed 1st round team, they were solid. Most of those types are young and just happy to be in the playoffs.

    I already conceded that the Trail Blazers were a slightly sub par 2nd round team, at least by West standards.

    The Thunder were a strong Conference Finals team and even though the Ibaka injury didn't help, he still played 2/3rds of the series and the Spurs had to close them out without what many still thought was their best player at the time.

    The Heat were on fumes and weren't what they were in '12 and '13, but they were still led by probably the 2nd best player ever, at the tail end of his prime.

    If you want to criticize a Spurs championship path, '07 is the easy target; saying '14 is just stupid.
    Nah, not criticizing, just calling a spade a spade. OKC posed the greatest threat before the playoffs began and up until the Ibaka injury. Other than that, there was no threat to the crown. Spurs fans would like to think Dallas was a threat because they needed to justify why it took the Spurs seven games to dispatch of the Mavs. No, it wasn't great coaching or a bad matchup. The Spurs played down to the level of their compe ion as they so often do. When I said they posed the greatest threat, I simply meant it came down to a do or die game seven where the winner takes all.

    Ibaka did return for the remainder of the series but, he was mostly ineffective on D and his offense was sparse and unremarkable. He certainly was no where near the vintage Serge they faced in the 2012 WCF'S. When you say "Spurs had to close them out without what many still thought was their best player at the time.", are you referring to Tony Parker? He was getting thrown under the bus nonstop in 2014 and the trend continued into 2015. Some even went as far as to say he was the 7th or 8th ranked player in terms of value on the team.

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    He was getting thrown under the bus nonstop in 2014 and the trend continued into 2015. Some even went as far as to say he was the 7th or 8th ranked player in terms of value on the team.
    A fan? A reporter? Many articles described his decline tbh

    Here some of them.

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story...-antonio-spurs

    http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...on/#19852101=0

    Good analysis of Parker's passing issues.
    http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/2014/12/...k-tony-parker/

    Fans' takes
    http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/2/2...y-sports-spurs

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    A healthy Houston team will be a huge challenge to beat...as will OKC. The Warriors are the champs and dominated the league for the most part last year.

    San Antonio will not have an easy path to the championship. Any of those three will be a tough out for us, and you could probably throw NO in that mix based on how badly we appeared to play against them this year.

    I'm kind of wanting some folks to doubt us. Pop's going to have a hard time deflecting the attention off the Spurs this year.

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    A healthy Houston team will be a huge challenge to beat...as will OKC. The Warriors are the champs and dominated the league for the most part last year.

    San Antonio will not have an easy path to the championship. Any of those three will be a tough out for us, and you could probably throw NO in that mix based on how badly we appeared to play against them this year.

    I'm kind of wanting some folks to doubt us. Pop's going to have a hard time deflecting the attention off the Spurs this year.
    I'm currently afflicted with a condition known as over confidence; so, I'm afraid I can't agree with this take.

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    Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu, brother/sister. Don't worry about that ing bigot, just pray that Allah might give him a blessing & enlightenment about Islam (hidayah), who knows ?

    Let's keep it about Basketball, for this sport knows no boundary of race, nationality, or religion. Wassalamualaikum.

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    Okay yeah, that's a horrible take (re: "Spurs couldn't even beat Pelicans when it mattered!") Using one regular season game to determine a team's strength is absurdly stupid.

    Regardless, I maintain that putting Houston over SA isn't THAT insane. Again, it's a pretty big stretch, but it's not some absurd opinion that should immediately be dismissed.

    GS won 67 games last year and put up an all-time great point differential. They brought back the same team, and they could likely experience internal improvement from their young core growing up + Kerr having another year under his belt.

    Cleveland seems pretty self-explanatory.

    LAC won 56 games last year and had the 2nd best point differential in the league. They replaced Barnes with Pierce, and finally put together a seemingly solid bench. They had the best starting lineup in the league last year, so there was really no need to make adjustments there.

    OKC obviously had tons of injuries last year, but the talent is certainly there. They're the biggest question mark IMO. It wouldn't surprise me if they won 65 games, and it wouldn't surprise me if they barely won 50. If KD can stay healthy, they'll almost certainly be near the top of the West.

    Houston won 56 games last year, and that was with Dwight missing 40 games as well as Terrence Jones missing 50 games. Their biggest problem was a lack of a secondary playmaker outside of Harden, and they definitely found an answer to that with Ty Lawson. I have some questions about how he'll fit alongside Harden, but the potential is definitely there for Houston to be a legitimate threat.

    As for us, we won 55 games last year and dealt with a myriad of injuries ourselves. Patty missed the first half of the season and then wasn't himself when he came back. Splitter was constantly injured. Kawhi missed a decent chunk of games. We went out and added an elite player in Aldridge. All that being said, there is reason to doubt whether we'll be some instant juggernaut. Aldridge looks like a good fit on paper, but you never know when it comes to adding such a high usage piece to an already fairly loaded team. Duncan will be 40 come playoffs, and Manu will be 38. Yes, they've aged like wine and as a Spurs fan, Duncan has earned the right to not be questioned. But you can't fault someone for thinking he might fall off a bit. Parker just had an absolutely horrible season, and now he'll be 34 come next playoffs. Obviously us Spurs fans (well, most of us anyways ) are optimistic he'll have a bounce back year, but keep in mind a lot of us said the same thing last offseason. How many people predicted Parker to have a great season after taking the summer off to get rested? I know I did.

    tl;dr: There are a lot of teams with the potential to be insanely good next year, so not having the Spurs at the very top isn't the craziest thing in the world. I certainly have us in the top 3, and I'm picking us to win it all, but there are reasonable doubts to be had with the team. Doubts about other teams as well - just depends on which doubts you think are the most reasonable.
    Thats far from insane, The Rockets significantly improved over an WCF bid (without two starters). They probably have the deepest roster in the NBA.

    Beverly/Lawson
    Harden/McDaniels/Thorton
    Ariza/Brewer/Dekker
    Monti/Jones/Harrell
    Howard/Capella

    I think the Spurs could beat them in a series but the margin would be fairly thin.

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    ST one day: the media ! I like the fact Spurs are flying under radar ! We don't care about what Media think

    ST the day after: Spurs are not a top 5 team this is not fair Oh noes !!!

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    I'm currently afflicted with a condition known as over confidence; so, I'm afraid I can't agree with this take.
    That's ok...I'm trying to downplay my own enthusiasm!

    As long as the players don't get overconfident...

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    A healthy Houston team will be a huge challenge to beat...as will OKC. The Warriors are the champs and dominated the league for the most part last year.

    San Antonio will not have an easy path to the championship. Any of those three will be a tough out for us, and you could probably throw NO in that mix based on how badly we appeared to play against them this year.

    I'm kind of wanting some folks to doubt us. Pop's going to have a hard time deflecting the attention off the Spurs this year.
    You and your reasonableness, EHJ. There's no place here for that sort of thing.

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    LOL pussies.

    we got Lamar and West.

    NBA = ed

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    Nah, not criticizing, just calling a spade a spade. OKC posed the greatest threat before the playoffs began and up until the Ibaka injury. Other than that, there was no threat to the crown. Spurs fans would like to think Dallas was a threat because they needed to justify why it took the Spurs seven games to dispatch of the Mavs. No, it wasn't great coaching or a bad matchup. The Spurs played down to the level of their compe ion as they so often do. When I said they posed the greatest threat, I simply meant it came down to a do or die game seven where the winner takes all.

    Ibaka did return for the remainder of the series but, he was mostly ineffective on D and his offense was sparse and unremarkable. He certainly was no where near the vintage Serge they faced in the 2012 WCF'S. When you say "Spurs had to close them out without what many still thought was their best player at the time.", are you referring to Tony Parker? He was getting thrown under the bus nonstop in 2014 and the trend continued into 2015. Some even went as far as to say he was the 7th or 8th ranked player in terms of value on the team.
    Again, I'm not saying the Mavs were good in general, I'm saying they were relative to a typical bottom seeded 1st round playoff opponent.

    Funny how people are always quick to point out the Ibaka injury, but gloss over the Parker one. Sure, you could say it actually helped, but only Spurs fans were onto his slippage in '14; to outsiders, he was their best player, yet him leaving game 6 is forgotten because they won. People also gloss over the Holiday, Evans, Conley, Allen, Beverley, Motiejunas, Irving, Love and Varejao ones, that all benefited the Warriors, as did the fact that they essentially (because of the Cavs' injuries) never had to play a fellow top 5 team in the playoffs.

    Even with Ibaka hobbled and the Heat on fumes (even given this, only the Spurs and maybe Thunder were beating them), they were still two of the 3-4 best teams in the league and to take it back further, as weak as the '07 run was, at least the Spurs had to go through the Suns, a top 3-4 team, who were at full strength for 5 of the 6 games.

    There's no credible argument for the Spurs' '14 run not being difficult or the Warriors' '15 run being comparable.

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    Noone was beating the spurs in 14 s.

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    It's like Germany of 2014 world cup or Italy of 2006 wc. Those teams just were nor losing to anyone. Healthy or not

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    Aldridge is a Rockets killer which actually makes that matchup less terrifying to me. OKC will always be the toughest matchup for the Spurs and probably the only team that can beat us.

    I don't care if the Dubs are champs, the Spurs are always a horrible matchup for them. Clippers are better but regardless of what people think of that fluke series, the Spurs can still beat them too.

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    Because I'm an insecure Spurs fan who constantly needs validation from the media, and I am infuriated by this video.

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:13377437

    Basically, Amin Elhassan of ESPN asserts that the Spurs are not a top five team in the NBA. He says that the Spurs' three biggest strengths these past few years were depth, continuity, and defense, and he argues that all three of those took a step back this offseason.

    His partner, Ethan Strauss, was hardly better, saying that the Rockets (not the Spurs) are the second best team in the league, behind the Warriors.
    Heard this terrorist explain his top 5 on their Truehoop podcast, which is much longer Than this Video clip. Both clowns list ten power forwards they think are better than LMA, and Terrorist continues to bag on Spurs with flawed logic while claiming NO is going to have an amazing season.

    i don't care about his takes, but then Terrorist rips on SA ( and their sewer) and Austin (just some tiny town...not impressed). He's a wanna-be Barkley troll, but at least Barkley had a sense of humor, this guy just says it to be ugly.

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    Whoever wrote this article about the Spurs not being a top 5 team obviously is a Houston Rockets fan, or doesn't really follow basketball. This guy has no business writing anything about basketball. He just lost all his credibility....

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    If I predicted last summer that the Rockets would be a 2 seed and reach the WCF, while the Spurs would be a 6 seed and a first round exit what would I be called right then?

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    I don't really care about Amim's basketball takes. People like him generally take underdog like teams so they can either guess right on the underdog or they can use it to claim they don't just pick the favorites. But I dislike the guy for his lame trolling on S.A. and Austin. It is pretty amazing how low of an opinion both he and Strauss have of LMA.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espnradio/...ve?id=12426375

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    Been going through some of their older podcasts lately and I miss Henry Abbott. Its disgusting how much Amin dislikes the Spurs because of his Suns days when I'm sure his boss (Steve Kerr) maintained a good relationship with the organization.

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    did this guy just steal my thread verbatim?

    what a

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...66#post8101166

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    Bump.. Rockets

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    It's like Germany of 2014 world cup or Italy of 2006 wc. Those teams just were nor losing to anyone. Healthy or not


    Italy won on penalties AFTER Zidane got a red card & Germany won in EXTRA period against a one man Argentina team.

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    This thread is proof that basketball nerds on ST and other forums in general know more about basketball than mainstream sports guys

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    I seriously don't understand why ESPN is treating Strauss like some detached unbiased analyst who has to weigh in on the entire league and other teams that are in compe ion with the one he covers in his beat writing gig..Dude is known around the entire interwebs as Warriors fanboy..

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