Why trump has already won the republican nomination

[DMC]

DMC's white flag.

Yeah you really destroyed me with the tornado/fence comment.

[DMC]

Trump's failure is real.

Here you are again using the term "failure" that you refused to quantify when I asked you. What has he failed to do? What would have been a success had it done it differently?

[ElNono]

Voicing disapproval isn't wrecking the country. Wrecking the country is wrecking the country. Bus loads of people being brought in to do damage to cities under the guise of racial inequality protests, while many if not most of them are white kids. Again, some on the right feel this way, and because of the never-Trump narrative, it's reasonable to think so. I'm not saying I feel this way.

So what is the TDS you're accusing people here of having? Did they get bused to protest? And since when people can't protest?

There were protests in every administration I can remember. From Tea Pottys to Occupy Wall Street to now this thing. But now it's trying to wreck the country? That sounds like selective memory to me.

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah you really destroyed me with the tornado/fence comment.

Since you can't talk about anything but me, sure looks that way. It's not my fault your afraid to have a real take.

Other people see you people this way!

[baseline bum]

I didn't say he was treated unfairly. I said the mind was set that he was not going to be successful regardless the outcome of his presidency, not to many on the left.

If I saw a toddler trying to drive a car it would be pretty reasonable to expect he wouldn't be successful before letting him turn the key in the ignition.

[DMC]

You guys never gave the cheating, grifting, money laundering, narcissistic conspiracy theorist a chance.

Where are the convictions for any of these things you mentioned? Just like you asked for regarding Hillary, likely over a thousand times.

[ChumpDumper]

Where are the convictions for any of these things you mentioned?

The money laundering fine for Trump's casino is a matter of record. Trump University. The Donald J. Trump Foundation, etc. All cases you can review if you choose.

Do you really think this guy isn't a grifter?

Let's see your actual opinion on Donald Trump.

[Spurminator]

I'm saying you have TDS thinking he's being treated unfairly.

DMC needs to validate himself by inventing reasons that others are unreasonable. He will spend hours a day defending an indefensibly terrible leader, and somehow it's those who think he's terrible that have a disorder.

It's basic childish ego-feeding contrarianism.

[DMC]

If I saw a toddler trying to drive a car it would be pretty reasonable to expect he wouldn't be successful before letting him turn the key in the ignition.

I get the concept, don't need analogies. It's called confirmation bias.

[ElNono]

Where are the convictions for any of these things you mentioned? Just like you asked for regarding Hillary, likely over a thousand times.

I'll give you the nod on this one (for now, anyways), but I also will tell you I don't even remember a politician that has so many felon 'friends' or felon employees/former-employees surrounding him.

[DMC]

DMC needs to validate himself by inventing reasons that others are unreasonable. He will spend hours a day defending an indefensibly terrible leader, and somehow it's those who think he's terrible that have a disorder.

yeah it's about me.

[baseline bum]

I get the concept, don't need analogies. It's called confirmation bias.

Trump ty businessman

Trump six bankruptcies

Trump conman

Trump liar

Trump racist

Therefore natural to expect Trump be president

[ElNono]

Minus COVID-19 Trump wins 2020 by landslide. His results can only be challenged on subjective social issues and personal demeanor while in office (aka not Presidential enough).

Which of these do you disagree with (From Whitehouse.gov)?

1. Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
2. More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
3. We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
4. Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
5. Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
6. New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
7. Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
8. African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
9. Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
10. Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
11. Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
12. Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
13. Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
14. Under my Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
15. Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
16. The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
17. 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
18. Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
19. Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
20. As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
21. Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
22. Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
23. Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
24. Record number of regulations eliminated.
25. Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
26. Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
27. My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
28. Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
29. We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
30. Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
31. Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
32. We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.
33. Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
34. Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
35. United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
36. Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
37. Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
38. Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
39. NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
40. Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
41. Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
42. Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
43. Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.
44. Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
45. Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
46. Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
47. Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
48. Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
49. Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
50. Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
51. Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
52. Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
53. We have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.

There's actually plenty to disagree with the list above, as far as favoring America.

[DMC]

Since you can't talk about anything but me, sure looks that way. It's not my fault your afraid to have a real take.

Other people see you people this way!

interjects in my conversation, says I talk about him.

[DMC]

There's actually plenty to disagree with the list above, as far as favoring America.

There's the list

[DMC]

Trump ty businessman

Trump six bankruptcies

Trump conman

Trump liar

Trump racist

Therefore natural to expect Trump be president

I expected him to be a president. I cannot argue with his results though, minus the social and some stupid comments.

[ChumpDumper]

interjects in my conversation, says I talk about him.

And you speak in 3rd person as if you have any friends here.

[ChumpDumper]

I expected him to be a president. I cannot argue with his results though, minus the social and some stupid comments.

You think he's a good president?

[ElNono]

I expected him to be a president. I cannot argue with his results though, minus the social and some stupid comments.

I wished him the best, tbh... tho it wasn't unexpected when he was absolutely terrible. Him being largely unpopular wasn't a surprise either, goes hand in hand with the job he's done.

[Blake]

Minus COVID-19 Trump wins 2020 by landslide. His results can only be challenged on subjective social issues and personal demeanor while in office (aka not Presidential enough).

Which of these do you disagree with (From Whitehouse.gov)?

1. Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
2. More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
3. We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
4. Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
5. Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
6. New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
7. Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
8. African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
9. Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
10. Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
11. Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
12. Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
13. Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
14. Under my Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
15. Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
16. The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
17. 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
18. Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
19. Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
20. As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
21. Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
22. Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
23. Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
24. Record number of regulations eliminated.
25. Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
26. Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
27. My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
28. Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
29. We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
30. Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
31. Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
32. We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.
33. Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
34. Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
35. United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
36. Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
37. Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
38. Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
39. NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
40. Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
41. Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
42. Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
43. Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.
44. Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
45. Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
46. Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
47. Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
48. Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
49. Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
50. Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
51. Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
52. Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
53. We have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.

Lol Whitehouse.gov "facts"

[DMC]

I wished him the best, tbh... tho it wasn't unexpected when he was absolutely terrible. Him being largely unpopular wasn't a surprise either, goes hand in hand with the job he's done.

Did he fulfill his campaign promises or even try? Or did you simply think his campaign promises were ty as well? I mean, if voters elect a guy and that guy does what he said he would do, that's what they wanted, regardless how unsavory the promises (that's on the voters as well). Do you think they got that?

[Blake]

Lol he is the best president in everyone’s lifetime that is alive now

Like you are the best writer and communicator this forum has ever seen

[DMC]

Lol Whitehouse.gov "facts"

Strawman from Blake, unusual. I never called them facts.

[DMC]

There's a lot of shuffling around and lashing out, but no one has actually taken the time to outline where he's failed and what would have been a success (based on his campaign, not based on your political leanings).

[ElNono]

Did he fulfill his campaign promises or even try? Or did you simply think his campaign promises were ty as well? I mean, if voters elect a guy and that guy does what he said he would do, that's what they wanted, regardless how unsavory the promises (that's on the voters as well). Do you think they got that?

He largely did not, but, a lot of what he promised was impossible to do. So I understand people got conned, and he's certainly not the first to do so.

I would even argue the did the exact opposite of what he promised, at least on salient points, like healthcare, manufacturing and sticking it to his hedge fund buddies.