Bernie Sanders

[FkLA]

the great Bernard Sanders

Love how the crowd started chanting Bernie and then laughed at her before she started her closing statement.

[gambit1990]

i think bernie will lose new york because independents can't vote. and you had to change your party affiliation back in october i think. primaries should be open.

[Reck]

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...ries-new-york/

27% are being left out. Ouch.

Now you cant assume all of those would vote strictly for Bernie but it raises questions of how close this primary would be if it was open.

But cant say I feel sorry for them either. People should be aware of these things well in advance. The other point I would make is, serves you right for not aligning yourself with a party to begin with? Independents and green party members are outsiders on contests that have to do with either party A (Democrats) or Party B (Republicans) so who do you really blame here.

[Nbadan]

Source: Associated Press
@AP: BREAKING: Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders tells AP he met with Pope Francis https://t.co/vqXeuFJzGT/s/Etnm
Bernie Sanders says he met with Pope Francis.
BY KEN THOMAS
APR. 16, 2016 3:46 AM EDT

ROME (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders says in an interview with The Associated Press that he met with Pope Francis.

Sanders says the meeting took place Saturday morning before the pope left for his one-day visit to Greece. He says he was honored by the meeting, and that he told the pope he appreciated the message that he is sending the world about the need to inject morality and justice into the world economy. Sanders says it's a message he has been sending as well.

Sanders traveled to Rome to attend a Vatican conference on economic inequality and climate change. He is an admirer of the pope and has praised the pope's views on poverty and the environment.

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/51a38...t-pope-francis

Remember this?



What other sign do you independents need? Baseball sized hail?

[DMX7]

Sanders is an underrated intellect. This whole concept of a "moral economy" is something I never even thought about.

[z0sa]

Sanders is an underrated intellect. This whole concept of a "moral economy" is something I never even thought about.

Truth. In a couple of centuries (maybe less), everyone will be looking at guys like him as visionaries.

[hater]

the great Bernard Sanders

Love how the crowd started chanting Bernie and then laughed at her before she started her closing statement.

Didn't see them laughing at the ****. But still shillary

[boutons_deux]

Truth. In a couple of centuries (maybe less), everyone will be looking at guys like him as visionaries.

His "vision" aligns the the FFs and their do ents. They knew their enterprise was at risk from BigCorp, they knew primogeniture could not be permitted (inequality, lack of opportuity), etc. Nothing radical about Bernie's policies, radical only when compared to the radical pile the VRWC/BigCorp has forced upon America, the very pile, the historical mean (of a wealthy, powerful few) that the FFs were trying preempt.

[MultiTroll]

"But only registered Democrats can vote in Tuesday's primary"
It is figured Bernie will get burned out of at least 50,000 votes.

Who in the f made up these rules?

And the *registering* closed 6 months ago.

[Pelicans78]

Shouldn't registered Democrats vote in a Democrat primary?

[Will Hunting]

If you want to vote in the Democratic primary then register as a ing Democrat. These are most likely the type of people who register as an independent because they think it makes them look "above" or "smarter than" American politics when all it really does is stop them from voting in the primary.

[Reck]

If you want to vote in the Democratic primary then register as a ing Democrat. These are most likely the type of people who register as an independent because they think it makes them look "above" or "smarter than" American politics when all it really does is stop them from voting in the primary.

Bingo.

These are the s that have been independents or some other group like the green party all their life () and now are crying because they cant vote.

I think you're also dead on on the "I'm smarter than you" part. These people have a superior complex. I know a few.

[Shastafarian]

If you want to vote in the Democratic primary then register as a ing Democrat. These are most likely the type of people who register as an independent because they think it makes them look "above" or "smarter than" American politics when all it really does is stop them from voting in the primary.

The problem with this idea is that states determine the deadline for changing party affiliation. For example, the deadline to change your party in New York was in OCTOBER. I'd like to hear some rationale on why deadlines to change party affiliation need to exist so far in advance. Wisconsin, a state that has done a lot to suppress voting, allows day-of registration. I don't hear people on the left decrying that policy.

[Reck]

The problem with this idea is that states determine the deadline for changing party affiliation. For example, the deadline to change your party in New York was in OCTOBER.

This is the only questionable thing for me.

I would like to know if this was how it's always been or if this was the case on the last cycle as well. If so, then the outcry is ridiculous. If this was something that's always been then the only reason you're mad is because you cant vote for savior Bernie.

People like to complain when things dont align with what's good for them. Bernie and his people are complaining about closed primaries which I find ironic since he has been benefiting from open primaries and caucuses. Two things that Hillary gets owned at. Didn't see any complaining when he was winning non stop and her losing because of it.

Now we have a host of closed primaries and you raise issues with how things are done? Ummm

Everyone knew the deal going into this so complaining about this now its really pathetic.

[Shastafarian]

This is the only questionable thing for me.

I would like to know if this was how it's always been or if this was the case on the last cycle as well. If so, then the outcry is ridiculous. If this was something that's always been then the only reason you're mad is because you cant vote for savior Bernie.

Two things. I don't live in New York and how long it has been in place is irrelevant if you don't agree with the policy itself.

People like to complain when things dont align with what's good for them.

Irony

Bernie and his people are complaining about closed primaries which I find ironic since he has been benefiting from open primaries and caucuses. Two things that Hillary gets owned at. Didn't see any complaining when he was winning non stop and her losing because of it.

That is not irony.

Now we have a host of closed primaries and you raise issues with how things are done? Ummm

Everyone knew the deal going into this so complaining about this now its really pathetic.

How is it pathetic to want elections to be fair and without disenfranchisement? And the issue of deadlines is not the same as arguing for all open primaries.

[Reck]

How is it pathetic to want elections to be fair and without disenfranchisement? And the issue of deadlines is not the same as arguing for all open primaries.

The reason why they have closed primaries is to prevent cross overs and have a rival oponent benefiting from the open voting. For instance back in Michigan, a lot of democrats crossed over to the republican side so they can vote against Trump.

The only people who dont get to vote on closed primaries are the ones without a party. If you are a democrat or republican, you will vote in your respective side. If you are an independent and have no party, tough ing luck.

Learn to play by the rules. If you want to be a badass outsider without an affiliation, expect to be treated just like one.

[Shastafarian]

The reason why they have closed primaries is to prevent cross overs and have a rival oponent benefiting from the open voting. For instance back in Michigan, a lot of democrats crossed over to the republican side so they can vote against Trump.

The only people who dont get to vote on closed primaries are the ones without a party. If you are a democrat or republican, you will vote in your respective side. If you are an independent and have no party, tough ing luck.

Learn to play by the rules. If you want to be a badass outsider without an affiliation, expect to be treated just like one.

Again, you're talking about open primaries. I'm talking about deadlines that precede an election by several months. And for the record I would like to see open primaries. I'm not a huge fan of restricting voting in any sense. People should be allowed to use their vote how they see fit.

[Reck]

Again, you're talking about open primaries. I'm talking about deadlines that precede an election by several months. And for the record I would like to see open primaries. I'm not a huge fan of restricting voting in any sense. People should be allowed to use their vote how they see fit.

That is also one of my concerns which I'd like to know more about how that gets to happen.

Apparently for new voters they had to do it by March but if you were an independent or wanted to switch to democrat you had to do in back in October. Insanely complicated process.

[Shastafarian]

That is also one of my concerns which I'd like to know more about how that gets to happen.

Apparently for new voters they had to do it by March but if you were an independent or wanted to switch to democrat you had to do in back in October. Insanely complicated process.

Exactly. I saw an estimate that as many as 3 million people wouldn't be allowed to vote in NY on Tuesday because of said process.

[russellgoat]

http://www.science20.com/jenny_split...essives-167253

[spurraider21]

Sanders is an underrated intellect. This whole concept of a "moral economy" is something I never even thought about.

eh, to a degree he just parrots undergrad level marxism lectures... its just a matter of time until he starts calling the american people the proletariat

[boutons_deux]

Something Is Going Seriously Wrong with New York Voter Registrations

New York’s Democratic primary is starting to look an awful lot like the Arizona primary.
Hundreds of voters, most of them registered with the Democratic Party, are filing a class-action lawsuit against the New York State Board of Elections on Monday morning, claiming their voter registration was changed to “independent” or “no affiliation” without their consent.
In closed primary states like New York, voters who are not registered as Democrats or Republicans can’t vote in those primaries. Voters identifying as independents wishing to vote in the Democratic primary had to change their registration to Democrat by October of 2015 — the earliest registration deadline in the country.

This is almost exactly what happened in Arizona, when voters who had been eager to vote in the Democratic primary learned upon arrival to their designated polling place that their registration had been changed, making them ineligible to vote.

New York voters angry about the mysterious change in their party affiliation have taken to a Facebook group led “Voters whose registration was changed without their knowledge in NY” to share their horror stories. S y Berry discovered that someone had changed her voter registration in 2012, even forging her signature on the do ent:

The party affiliation barrier these voters are struggling with will undoubtedly play a role in the New York primary on Tuesday. Some advocates are calling for New York to open its primary to independent voters to avoid disenfranchising thousands of voters.

Over 7,000 people have signed a pe ion calling on U.S. Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) to urge the New York Democratic Party to open its primary up to independent voters. Schumer himself wrote an op-ed in the New York Times calling for primary reform in 2014.

“If the primary were open, this would be a non-issue for thousands of registered voters that have had this happen to them,” said Shyla Nelson, spokeswoman for Election Justice U.S.A. in an interview with the New York Daily News. “By making the primary open, it eliminates one of the most vexing problems New Yorkers have dealt with in this primary season.”

http://usuncut.com/politics/something-amiss-new-york/

[boutons_deux]

eh, to a degree he just parrots undergrad level marxism lectures... its just a matter of time until he starts calling the american people the proletariat

This is a terrible unfair question, but which of Bernie's points, policies are Marxist or even socialist?

[Reck]

Something Is Going Seriously Wrong with New York Voter Registrations

New York’s Democratic primary is starting to look an awful lot like the Arizona primary.
Hundreds of voters, most of them registered with the Democratic Party, are filing a class-action lawsuit against the New York State Board of Elections on Monday morning, claiming their voter registration was changed to “independent” or “no affiliation” without their consent.
In closed primary states like New York, voters who are not registered as Democrats or Republicans can’t vote in those primaries. Voters identifying as independents wishing to vote in the Democratic primary had to change their registration to Democrat by October of 2015 — the earliest registration deadline in the country.

This is almost exactly what happened in Arizona, when voters who had been eager to vote in the Democratic primary learned upon arrival to their designated polling place that their registration had been changed, making them ineligible to vote.

New York voters angry about the mysterious change in their party affiliation have taken to a Facebook group led “Voters whose registration was changed without their knowledge in NY” to share their horror stories. S y Berry discovered that someone had changed her voter registration in 2012, even forging her signature on the do ent:

The party affiliation barrier these voters are struggling with will undoubtedly play a role in the New York primary on Tuesday. Some advocates are calling for New York to open its primary to independent voters to avoid disenfranchising thousands of voters.

Over 7,000 people have signed a pe ion calling on U.S. Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) to urge the New York Democratic Party to open its primary up to independent voters. Schumer himself wrote an op-ed in the New York Times calling for primary reform in 2014.

“If the primary were open, this would be a non-issue for thousands of registered voters that have had this happen to them,” said Shyla Nelson, spokeswoman for Election Justice U.S.A. in an interview with the New York Daily News. “By making the primary open, it eliminates one of the most vexing problems New Yorkers have dealt with in this primary season.”

http://usuncut.com/politics/something-amiss-new-york/

Dude here we go again with the voter suppression bull .

[boutons_deux]

Livin La Vida Bubbly

Wall Street’s View Of Itself In Bernie Sanders’ Campaign: Maligned, Misunderstood

"I, frankly, despise him," said Michael Bachner, 59, a criminal justice attorney whose clients include Wall Street investors.

There are people in the financial industry "who work their tails off to have a legitimate life and went to great schools to try to do great things and support charitable causes and do great things with their money, and he is calling them all corrupt."

http://www.nationalmemo.com/wall-streets-view-bernie-sanders-campaign-maligned-misunderstood/

Yep, BigFinance isn't corrupt. That's why BigFinance has settled for $10Bs in fines, penalties, after being totally bankrupt.