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    Bernie Dogpiled For Thoughtful Answer On Trump Voters


    BOOM

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    what boom. what dogpile. all he refers to are what random people tweeted about bernie's comments.

    the NYT endorsing somebody besides bernie = dogpiling? boom?

    lol

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    what boom. what dogpile. all he refers to are what random people tweeted about bernie's comments.

    the NYT endorsing somebody besides bernie = dogpiling? boom?

    lol
    I'm talking about Bernie's response about Trump voters, not the YouTuber. NYT and the Dems don't like those truth bombs.

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    I'm talking about Bernie's response about Trump voters, not the YouTuber. NYT and the Dems don't like those truth bombs.
    The NYT let loose the truth bomb on your most vile enemy, Hillary Clinton.
    All the other news outlets (MSM) sucked it up and so did you.
    The Clinton Foundation.

    But compared to the orange tornado, peanuts.

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    lol good luck with that one guy


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    Bernie always wanting a serious debate, but has no workable plan. We need a better country, we need better healthcare, we need better schools, colleges should be free to attend, student loan debt should be forgiven, etc..

    Pretty sure we all know what we need but we are like those astronauts on the Apollo, we have to work with what we have. Could you imagine NASA saying "well we need an O2 scrubber up there, and we need a better way to exit and re-enter the atmosphere, and ..." "boom"

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    except he's advocating for things that other countries already do. nothing groundbreaking

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    except he's advocating for things that other countries already do. nothing groundbreaking

    The U.S. has a fairly rightwing ethos tbh. Truman, JFK, and the Clintons all tried to introduce single payer or other public healthcare plans and failed. Its hard to get massive healthcare reform done here because you need to get 60 votes in the Senate.

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    The U.S. has a fairly rightwing ethos tbh. Truman, JFK, and the Clintons all tried to introduce single payer or other public healthcare plans and failed. Its hard to get massive healthcare reform done here because you need to get 60 votes in the Senate.
    oh for sure. if somebody is saying bernie's plans are unrealistic because of the political reality of the senate, i'm with you. but DMC's critique (and tbh, what i hear more often than not) is that his ideas are unrealistic in that there is no real way to implement them, as if free college and healthcare is some bizarre pie in the sky theories that cant actually work

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    oh for sure. if somebody is saying bernie's plans are unrealistic because of the political reality of the senate, i'm with you. but DMC's critique (and tbh, what i hear more often than not) is that his ideas are unrealistic in that there is no real way to implement them, as if free college and healthcare is some bizarre pie in the sky theories that cant actually work
    Yeah, I'm a progressive probably but progressives act like no one has ever tried to do massive public healthcare in the US history before them and its historically illiterate. Truman tried and they derided it as communism/socialism. Then they post videos of JFK talking about it doing it and pushing it and forget to read how he failed due to the same problems they are going to have. Lying to yourself about the challenges you face over here like some do is really not a good look. Look at all these attempts and failures Democrats experienced over the years beside Obamacare

    https://www.history.com/news/harry-t...al-health-care
    https://www.historynet.com/howls-of-...-insurance.htm
    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...alth-care.html
    https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/fu...lthaff.14.1.66

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    Clinton faction STILL pissed at Bernie, probably blaming him for Hillary loss

    'Nobody likes him' - Hillary Clinton bashes Bernie Sanders

    Hillary Clinton criticized the campaign of her former Democratic presidential rival Bernie Sanders in a new do entary in which she says he was an ineffective U.S. senator who accomplished little because “nobody liked him.”

    Sanders demonstrated “a pattern” in how his campaign attacked women rivals. only women rivals?

    lingering bitterness toward Sanders

    after he mounted an unexpected Democratic primary challenge to Clinton in 2016.

    Clinton backers blame Sanders’ supporters for tarnishing her with vitriolic criticism

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton/nobody-likes-him-hillary-clinton-bashes-bernie-sanders-idUSKBN1ZK233?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews




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    ing Clinton still can't put any blame on herself for blowing the election against the most corrupt and unqualified POS to ever get nominated. When this is the kind of crap we hear from the Democratic establishment it really makes me fear we're getting another four years of our Dear Leader.

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    ing Clinton still can't put any blame on herself for blowing the election against the most corrupt and unqualified POS to ever get nominated. When this is the kind of crap we hear from the Democratic establishment it really makes me fear we're getting another four years of our Dear Leader.
    Right? Now ain't the time.

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    Right? Now ain't the time.
    self-preserving Dem establishment would rather lose to Trash to maintain the status quo of their power and jobs,

    than win with Bernie/Liz, both of whom would clean out the Dem establishment pile


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    What power you ing loon?

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    What power you ing loon?
    power over the party. leadership seats, etc.

    you dont think the pelosi/schumer group is concerned by the rise of sanders/AOC and the like? it threatens them for sure

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    power over the party. leadership seats, etc.

    you dont think the pelosi/schumer group is concerned by the rise of sanders/AOC and the like? it threatens them for sure
    I like watching Schumer trying but failing where Pelosi does her thing.

    I can see a case being made for the House and Pelosi but the senate is where it counts and they don’t hold over there.

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    Bernie isn't a Democrat.

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    I like watching Schumer trying but failing where Pelosi does her thing.

    I can see a case being made for the House and Pelosi but the senate is where it counts and they don’t hold over there.
    well, schumer is in the minority while pelosi is in the majority

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    power over the party. leadership seats, etc.

    you dont think the pelosi/schumer group is concerned by the rise of sanders/AOC and the like? it threatens them for sure
    Yup. You can crackdown on establishment politicians by not allowing them to establish themselves. Term limits should be imposed on all Federal offices.

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    Yup. You can crackdown on establishment politicians by not allowing them to establish themselves. Term limits should be imposed on all Federal offices.
    i like the concept of term limits, but there also is value in experience. i like when presidential candidates have substantial experience in government... and short term limits would also cut the credentials of future candidates.

    so i think they should be reasonably long in congress. but as of 2006, there were 224 people that have sat in congress for over 30 years. thats excessive

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    MSNBC Uses Crank Pseudoscience To Attack Bernie

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    except he's advocating for things that other countries already do. nothing groundbreaking
    Maybe you didn't read my comments correctly or you're intentionally misrepresenting what I said yet again. I didn't mention anything about him doing anything groundbreaking. My comment was that he's only telling us what we need not how he's going to get there. Any one of us can point out what we need. I guess electing him is how we get there? Most people don't think so. If everything he asked for was free I don't think anyone would have a problem with it. It's not free.

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