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    If the poorest of the poor in this country still get medical care, what are you really hoping to accomplish? Someone might lose their job and not be able to get that gender reassignment surgery?
    your rebuttals have now boiled down to

    - but it wont solve homelessness
    - you dont care for transgenders

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    What about it?
    Efficient government program.

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    Did you forget your question already?

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    Are undo ented immigrants en led to medicare or medicaid?

    With porous borders there's no way to control the user base of a program that has a very finite amount of payers. Taxing the working citizens of the US isn't going to relieve world poverty. It will just make us all poor.

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    Did you forget your question already?
    Did you forget to ask that in your previous response already?

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    Are undo ented immigrants en led to medicare or medicaid?

    With porous borders there's no way to control the user base of a program that has a very finite amount of payers. Taxing the working citizens of the US isn't going to relieve world poverty. It will just make us all poor.

    The cat is out of the bag

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    The cat is out of the bag
    ^immigrant and anti-Semite aka Iranian or some other desert nomad.

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    Are undo ented immigrants en led to medicare or medicaid?

    With porous borders there's no way to control the user base of a program that has a very finite amount of payers. Taxing the working citizens of the US isn't going to relieve world poverty. It will just make us all poor.
    det strawman

    i'm all for tightening border security and reforming our immigration system (i just dont believe that putting up a wall and mass deportations is viable or effective solution). i dont think it makes sense to put a pause on healthcare reform just because immigration hasnt yet been resolved

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    Did you forget to ask that in your previous response already?
    That's a deflection. Are you allergic to straightforward replies?

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    det strawman

    i'm all for tightening border security and reforming our immigration system. i dont think it makes sense to put a pause on healthcare reform just because immigration hasnt yet been resolved
    So you want a registered number of payers to cover the costs of an unknown number of insurgents so they have their "basic human rights" given to them, and you expect that system to be viable?

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    So you want a registered number of payers to cover the costs of an unknown number of insurgents so they have their "basic human rights" given to them, and you expect that system to be viable?
    i mentioned border security and immigration reform in that very post

    as it stands now, undo ented immigrants dont get medicare. they dont necessarily have to get coverage under M4A either. there are a lot of nuances to a big overhaul like this. but if this is now the extent of your objections, we've made some progress

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    That's a deflection. Are you allergic to straightforward replies?
    Just waiting for you to finish your mental stuttering.

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    Are undo ented immigrants en led to medicare or medicaid?

    With porous borders there's no way to control the user base of a program that has a very finite amount of payers. Taxing the working citizens of the US isn't going to relieve world poverty. It will just make us all poor.
    Immigrants to the USA work hard. How long have you lived in Texas?

    Who cooks your restaurant meal?

    Who turned your hotel bed?

    Who picked the gréens for your salad?

    Who built the structure you ate it in?

    Who poured the concrete for the roads and sidewalks that took you there?

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    i mentioned border security and immigration reform in that very post
    You said the "reform" doesn't have to wait. So you want to have known number of payers cover an unknown number of immigrants?

    You cannot start rationing the supplies until you have a headcount.

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    You said the "reform" doesn't have to wait. So you want to have known number of payers cover an unknown number of immigrants?

    You cannot start rationing the supplies until you have a headcount.
    lets get them to pay taxes by offering the ones here a pathway to citizenship. have them put some skin in the game

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    Immigrants to the USA work hard. How long have you lived in Texas?

    Who cooks your restaurant meal?

    Who turned your hotel bed?

    Who picked the gréens for your salad?

    Who build the structure you ate it in?
    Immigrants are fine. Undo ented immigrants are not.

    Save your righteous indignation for someone who gives a .

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    lets get them to pay taxes by offering the ones here a pathway to citizenship. have them put some skin in the game
    Go do that then let me know when it's done. Then we can talk about rationing out my money for their well being.

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    Just waiting for you to finish your mental stuttering.
    I'm waiting for your response to my direct reply. We're all waiting.

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    Go do that then let me know when it's done. Then we can talk about rationing out my money for their well being.
    im ok with prioritizing healthcare over the immigration issue. i dont think it makes sense to keep nearly half of american adults who are uninsured or underinsured just because we havent solved the separate immigration issue first

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    Immigrants are fine. Undo ented immigrants are not.

    Save your righteous indignation for someone who gives a .
    They all improved your life. Your ingra ude is clear. Work is work, regardless of immigration status.

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    Some Democrats might be in favor of giving healthcare to undo ented immigrants but I highly doubt that it would ever pass Congress. I think most congressmen know that if they were to do such thing it would piss off a lot of loyal Democrat voters. I would be pissed myself. I'm for a higher social safety net but you cannot have open borders. Common sense.

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    What's in it for me?

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    im ok with prioritizing healthcare over the immigration issue.
    Of course you are, you have no skin in the game either. You're a fresh starter and your spouse isn't even in the workforce yet. Give it 10 years. By then you'll be an established attorney and she will be a doctor, you can give all your money to the poor. She can provide free medical care while you provide free legal advice and representation.

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    They all improved your life. Your ingra ude is clear. Work is work, regardless of immigration status.
    That's re ed.

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