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    he's had 1 injury in 5 years ...
    One ACL injury in 5 years = non-stop talk about being injury prone, even though ACL tears are usually freak injuries that happen regardless of how injury prone someone is.

    The meaning of the term "injury prone" always seems to be changing

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    You're ignoring the facts of how the college game has always had an abundant of black QBs and the schools you mentioned have had black QBs the last ten years who haven't done anything in the pros. And you fail to mention how awful the QB play is in today's NFL due to lack of development in the college game because of gimmicky QBs running gimmicky offenses. Look at how guys like Kaep, RGIII, and others have flamed out the last few years.
    As you totally ignore you thinking the Saints were a playoff team, what a dumb .

    Pay attention got.

    It doesn't matter what the NFL wants or how the QB play is, it's all about high school football. It all starts there ya dumb . That is where the NCAA gets their QB's and where do the NFL QB's come from? BOOM~~~~~~

    Why ignore who is playing for the NCAA le? Why ignore the success RW has had? Dude, do you know anything at all about Texas/Florida/Cali HS football? Ya don't do ya slick?

    Stupid, it's far harder to defend a mobile QB, ok? That's another weapon, alright dummy?

    ing idiot~~~~


    I have played against black QB's, I was a RB/KR/DB. It's a whole other deal knowing he can run 40 yards at any time. A totally different deal than playing some statue in the pocket...TOTALLY!!!!!!!
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    There will always be a market for white QB's that can sit in the pocket and sling the ball down the field. The top 3 QBs in the projected 2016 draft class are white, and 4 of the top 5 are white. If scouts and coaches are so obsessed with black mobile QB's, then they would have all black QB's projected in the top 5.

    Do some homework before you give an opinion. Otherwise, your opinions hold no substance.

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    1. Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis
    Height: 6-7. Weight: 245.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.78.
    Projected Round (2016): 1-2.
    11/19/15: In 2015, Lynch has completed 69 percent of his passes for 3,292 yards with 21 touchdowns and three interceptions.

    Lynch has a great skill set but is raw and needs development. His footwork and field vision are the primary areas to improve. Lynch does have an arm that can make all the throws for the pro game, and he has flashed the ability to pass accurately and beat good coverage with precise completions into tight windows. However, Lynch needs to become more consistent with the ability to thrive as a pocket passer. He also the has athleticism to make plays with his feet and or throws on the run. His draft stock has risen with Memphis' strong start to the season, which included an upset over Ole Miss.

    In his previous seasons as a starter, Lynch used his running ability more. As a sop re, he ran for 321 yards with 13 touchdowns while completing 63 percent of his passes for 3,031 yards with 22 touchdowns and nine interceptions. Lynch completed 58 percent of his passes for 2,056 yards with nine touchdowns and 10 interceptions as a freshman.




    2. Jared Goff*, QB, California
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 210.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.71.
    Projected Round (2016): 1-2.
    11/19/15: In 2015, Goff has completed 64 percent of his passes for 3,319 yards with 30 touchdowns and 13 interceptions. Early in the season, he beat up on weak compe ion, but he hasn't played as well against quality opponents like Utah, UCLA and USC.

    A lot of draft media, like the experts at ESPN, have been pumping Goff as a top-of-the-draft prospect. As one scout told me, "They're giving him the Teddy Bridgewater treatment," i.e. overhyping. One scouting director told WalterFootball.com that he would go see Goff in November. He said that Goff was a good player, but he didn't feel he was top-of-the-draft worthy right now. Another scout said they were lukewarm on Goff as a pro quarterback.

    In speaking to another general manager from a team that is among the best at evaluating and developing quarterbacks, he felt that Goff was the best of the draft-eligible signal-callers. Obviously, there isn't a real consensus about Goff among NFL evaluators.

    Still, Goff has shown a strong, accurate arm with quality field vision. He also has functional mobility to avoid rushers and pick up some yards on the ground. Goff needs to add weight for the NFL and also could have some issues with getting rattled and handling the rush at the next level.

    The junior is a natural thrower with quality mechanics, some functional mobility and an arm capable of making all of the throws. His stats are inflated by a college offense that has a lot of instant passes though. Coming from his college system, he will need development for the NFL with field vision, working under center and holding up in the face of a pass rush. Goff also is very thin for the NFL.

    8/8/14: Goff enjoyed a breakout 2014 season. The sop re completed 62 percent of his passes for 3,973 yards with 35 touchdowns and seven interceptions. Goff displayed some pocket-passing potential while playing with a less-than-ideal supporting cast. He struggled against USC's good defense taking sacks and had a few interceptions dropped. Goff needs to perform better against top compe ion. He became the starter as a freshman in 2013 and completed 60 percent of his passes for 3,508 yards with 18 touchdowns and 10 interceptions.



    3. Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 218.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.60.
    Projected Round (2016): 1-2.
    11/19/15: Cook has connected on 56 percent of his passes this season for 2,482 yards for 21 touchdowns and four interceptions. He played well against Oregon, but hasn't been overwhelming against some mediocre opponents, though he had a prolific game against Rutgers. The Spartans have admitted their play calling has been overly conservative and need to let Cook throw more often.

    Cook has athleticism, good size, experience in a pro-style system and a strong arm that can make some beautiful throws downfield into tight windows. However, he isn't a quarterback who drops back and throws 50 times a game while dominating a defense. His accuracy needs improvement as well. Cook has been more of a game manager, and that could be his future in the NFL.

    8/8/15: Cook completed 58 percent of his passes in 2014 for 3,214 yards with 24 touchdowns and eight interceptions. League sources identified Cook as a potential high first-round pick. He needs to improve certain aspects of his game to meet that grade though, mainly accuracy. Cook has proven to NFL evaluators that he has a big arm, pocket presence, the mobility to avoid rushers and roll out, and the ability to make the occasional precision throw. Cook plays in a pro-style system and has shown steady improvement with his ability to function out of the pocket while working through his progressions.

    Cook has often thrown the ball better than his numbers illustrate. He can make some amazingly accurate throws into extremely tight windows for completions downfield, but also has some inconsistency with his accuracy on the routine passes and when going deep down the middle. Cook has to improve his footwork, which in turn will help his accuracy.

    2013 was Cook's first year as the full-time starter, and he got off to a slow start before coming on strong in the second half of the season to help lead the Spartans to a Big Ten le and victory over Stanford in the Rose Bowl. Cook completed 58.7 percent of his passes for 2,755 yards with 22 touchdowns and six interceptions for the year. He had great games against Ohio State (24-40 for 304 with 3 touchdowns, 1 interception) and Stanford (22-36 for 332 yards with 2 touchdown, 1 interception) to close out that season.




    4. Cardale Jones*, QB, Ohio State
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 250.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.75.
    Projected Round (2016): 1-3.
    11/19/15: This season, Jones has displayed his big arm and great skill set, but must get better at reading the field and with his passing technique. He is undefeated in his 11 starts in college, but with such little playing time needing development is understandable.

    Jones has completed 63 percent of his passes this season for 1,460 yards with eight touchdowns and five interceptions. Aside from his right-arm cannon, he also has displayed his running ability and how difficult he is to sack with his huge size. Jones is very physically gifted, but he's raw and needs to gain experience.

    8/8/15: Jones put on a display in 2014 after entering the starting lineup behind Braxton Miller and J.T. Barrett. Jones has great size and a cannon for an arm. In his three starts, he completed 61 percent of his passes for 860 yards with seven touchdowns and two interceptions. Jones has a lot of upside and it will be fun to watch him in 2015, assuming he wins the starting job over J.T. Barrett.

    Jones needs to improve his ability to throw while under heat. He also needs to get faster working through his progressions, moving his eyes and getting rid of the ball. Jones can hold onto the ball too long when plays start to break down on him. When Jones has a clean pocket, he displays the ability to make any throw the NFL asks for. While Jones is a pocket passer, he will take yards on the ground when available and has some athleticism as a runner. Jones can be tough to bring down for defenders in or out of the pocket.

    Sources from multiple teams said that they view Jones as having a first-round skill set and if performed for an entire season the way he played in his three starts, he would be a first-rounder. Teams have questions about Jones' football I.Q. and off-the-field maturity, so his pre-draft interviews will be important to address those questions.




    5. Christian Hackenberg, QB, Penn State
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 234.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.87.
    Projected Round (2016): 2-3.
    11/19/15: In 2015, Hackenberg has completed 54 percent of his passes for 1,997 yards with 13 touchdowns and three interceptions. He had terrible games against Rutgers and Temple, but good outings against Buffalo, San Diego State, Indiana and Illinois.

    Clearly, Hackenberg needs to improve his accuracy and decision-making, but the junior is still playing in a bad situation with a weak offensive line and weak receivers. He also is a pro-style quarterback forced to play in a college spread offense that doesn't fit him well at all. Over the last two seasons, Hackenberg has routinely made some beautiful throws that are dropped by his receivers.

    In speaking with sources, some teams see Hackenberg as a potential top quarterback prospect, but others don't like him. The ones who don't say that he has average accuracy and is a statue in the pocket. There also is concern about how teammates respond to him.

    8/8/15: Hackenberg completed 56 percent of his passes in 2014 for 2,677 yards with 12 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. He played better than the numbers indicate as his supporting cast was a huge liability, including an awful offensive line. Hackenberg closed out the 2014 season with a huge comeback overtime win over Boston College, completing 34-of-50 for 371 yards and four touchdowns.

    In terms of a skill set, Hackenberg has what the NFL is looking for with a size, pocket presence, field-vision potential and a strong arm that can push the ball downfield. James Franklin's offense didn't help Hackenberg develop much as a NFL pocket-passer prospect last season as so many of the play calls were instant throws because of a weak offensive line that couldn't maintain its blocks. Hackenberg needs to improve his ball placement and decision-making in some areas, but his supporting cast really hurt him last year. At times, Hackenberg makes some brilliant throws downfield after working off his first read, and if he does that regularly as a junior, he could be a high first-rounder.

    Hackenberg was the star recruit for Bill O'Brien and proved the hype legit during an impressive freshman season that saw him named the Big Ten Freshman of the Year. Hackenberg completed 59 percent of his passes for 2,955 yards with 20 touchdowns and 10 interceptions in 2013. He also ran for four touchdowns. Sources in the NFL feel that Hackenberg could end up being an elite quarterback prospect.

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    It's really not changing. It's just getting worse. Mediocre QB play despite rules tilted towards the offense.
    This is pretty much it. In 5-10 years we will have tons of Alex Smith/Struggle Wilson game managers running around with no balls/football iq to call real audibles at the line. Check downs will become the norm every game and the excitement will be gone at the QB position.

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    As you totally ignore you thinking the Saints were a playoff team, what a dumb .

    Pay attention got.

    It doesn't matter what the NFL wants or how the QB play is, it's all about high school football. It all starts there ya dumb . That is where the NCAA gets their QB's and where do the NFL QB's come from? BOOM~~~~~~

    Why ignore who is playing for the NCAA le? Why ignore the success RW has had? Dude, do you know anything at all about Texas/Florida/Cali HS football? Ya don't do ya slick?

    Stupid, it's far harder to defend a mobile QB, ok? That's another weapon, alright dummy?

    ing idiot~~~~


    I have played against black QB's, I was a RB/KR/DB. It's a whole other deal knowing he can run 40 yards at any time. A totally different deal than playing some statue in the pocket...TOTALLY!!!!!!!
    It may be harder to defend mobile QBs in the college game, but the NFL is different. A QB has to be able to pass first to succeed. That's been proven over and over. The quality of QB play has hurt the league this season since pocket passers are few and far between. RW has succeeded, but he's also been blessed with the top defense in the league for three straight seasons. Otherwise the Seahawks would have been an average team like they are this season.

    Look at the top offenses in the league this season. The Cards, Pats, Panthers, Packers, Bengals, and Giants are led by pocket passing. Cam is a runner, but he's improved his passing ability by a ton.

    It's obvious you're re ed you lazy fat bum. The NFL is dependent on pocket passing and when the quality is bad, mediocrity sets in which has happened to the NFL this season.

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    One ACL injury in 5 years = non-stop talk about being injury prone, even though ACL tears are usually freak injuries that happen regardless of how injury prone someone is.

    The meaning of the term "injury prone" always seems to be changing
    It's surprising he's not getting enough MVP talk.

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    what exactly is that huge %? Give a number, expert.
    keep pretending you don't see this, fat ol .

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    There will always be a market for white QB's that can sit in the pocket and sling the ball down the field. The top 3 QBs in the projected 2016 draft class are white, and 4 of the top 5 are white. If scouts and coaches are so obsessed with black mobile QB's, then they would have all black QB's projected in the top 5.

    Do some homework before you give an opinion. Otherwise, your opinions hold no substance.

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    http://walterfootball.com/draft2016QB.php





    1. Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis
    Height: 6-7. Weight: 245.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.78.
    Projected Round (2016): 1-2.
    11/19/15: In 2015, Lynch has completed 69 percent of his passes for 3,292 yards with 21 touchdowns and three interceptions.

    Lynch has a great skill set but is raw and needs development. His footwork and field vision are the primary areas to improve. Lynch does have an arm that can make all the throws for the pro game, and he has flashed the ability to pass accurately and beat good coverage with precise completions into tight windows. However, Lynch needs to become more consistent with the ability to thrive as a pocket passer. He also the has athleticism to make plays with his feet and or throws on the run. His draft stock has risen with Memphis' strong start to the season, which included an upset over Ole Miss.

    In his previous seasons as a starter, Lynch used his running ability more. As a sop re, he ran for 321 yards with 13 touchdowns while completing 63 percent of his passes for 3,031 yards with 22 touchdowns and nine interceptions. Lynch completed 58 percent of his passes for 2,056 yards with nine touchdowns and 10 interceptions as a freshman.




    2. Jared Goff*, QB, California
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 210.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.71.
    Projected Round (2016): 1-2.
    11/19/15: In 2015, Goff has completed 64 percent of his passes for 3,319 yards with 30 touchdowns and 13 interceptions. Early in the season, he beat up on weak compe ion, but he hasn't played as well against quality opponents like Utah, UCLA and USC.

    A lot of draft media, like the experts at ESPN, have been pumping Goff as a top-of-the-draft prospect. As one scout told me, "They're giving him the Teddy Bridgewater treatment," i.e. overhyping. One scouting director told WalterFootball.com that he would go see Goff in November. He said that Goff was a good player, but he didn't feel he was top-of-the-draft worthy right now. Another scout said they were lukewarm on Goff as a pro quarterback.

    In speaking to another general manager from a team that is among the best at evaluating and developing quarterbacks, he felt that Goff was the best of the draft-eligible signal-callers. Obviously, there isn't a real consensus about Goff among NFL evaluators.

    Still, Goff has shown a strong, accurate arm with quality field vision. He also has functional mobility to avoid rushers and pick up some yards on the ground. Goff needs to add weight for the NFL and also could have some issues with getting rattled and handling the rush at the next level.

    The junior is a natural thrower with quality mechanics, some functional mobility and an arm capable of making all of the throws. His stats are inflated by a college offense that has a lot of instant passes though. Coming from his college system, he will need development for the NFL with field vision, working under center and holding up in the face of a pass rush. Goff also is very thin for the NFL.

    8/8/14: Goff enjoyed a breakout 2014 season. The sop re completed 62 percent of his passes for 3,973 yards with 35 touchdowns and seven interceptions. Goff displayed some pocket-passing potential while playing with a less-than-ideal supporting cast. He struggled against USC's good defense taking sacks and had a few interceptions dropped. Goff needs to perform better against top compe ion. He became the starter as a freshman in 2013 and completed 60 percent of his passes for 3,508 yards with 18 touchdowns and 10 interceptions.



    3. Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 218.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.60.
    Projected Round (2016): 1-2.
    11/19/15: Cook has connected on 56 percent of his passes this season for 2,482 yards for 21 touchdowns and four interceptions. He played well against Oregon, but hasn't been overwhelming against some mediocre opponents, though he had a prolific game against Rutgers. The Spartans have admitted their play calling has been overly conservative and need to let Cook throw more often.

    Cook has athleticism, good size, experience in a pro-style system and a strong arm that can make some beautiful throws downfield into tight windows. However, he isn't a quarterback who drops back and throws 50 times a game while dominating a defense. His accuracy needs improvement as well. Cook has been more of a game manager, and that could be his future in the NFL.

    8/8/15: Cook completed 58 percent of his passes in 2014 for 3,214 yards with 24 touchdowns and eight interceptions. League sources identified Cook as a potential high first-round pick. He needs to improve certain aspects of his game to meet that grade though, mainly accuracy. Cook has proven to NFL evaluators that he has a big arm, pocket presence, the mobility to avoid rushers and roll out, and the ability to make the occasional precision throw. Cook plays in a pro-style system and has shown steady improvement with his ability to function out of the pocket while working through his progressions.

    Cook has often thrown the ball better than his numbers illustrate. He can make some amazingly accurate throws into extremely tight windows for completions downfield, but also has some inconsistency with his accuracy on the routine passes and when going deep down the middle. Cook has to improve his footwork, which in turn will help his accuracy.

    2013 was Cook's first year as the full-time starter, and he got off to a slow start before coming on strong in the second half of the season to help lead the Spartans to a Big Ten le and victory over Stanford in the Rose Bowl. Cook completed 58.7 percent of his passes for 2,755 yards with 22 touchdowns and six interceptions for the year. He had great games against Ohio State (24-40 for 304 with 3 touchdowns, 1 interception) and Stanford (22-36 for 332 yards with 2 touchdown, 1 interception) to close out that season.




    4. Cardale Jones*, QB, Ohio State
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 250.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.75.
    Projected Round (2016): 1-3.
    11/19/15: This season, Jones has displayed his big arm and great skill set, but must get better at reading the field and with his passing technique. He is undefeated in his 11 starts in college, but with such little playing time needing development is understandable.

    Jones has completed 63 percent of his passes this season for 1,460 yards with eight touchdowns and five interceptions. Aside from his right-arm cannon, he also has displayed his running ability and how difficult he is to sack with his huge size. Jones is very physically gifted, but he's raw and needs to gain experience.

    8/8/15: Jones put on a display in 2014 after entering the starting lineup behind Braxton Miller and J.T. Barrett. Jones has great size and a cannon for an arm. In his three starts, he completed 61 percent of his passes for 860 yards with seven touchdowns and two interceptions. Jones has a lot of upside and it will be fun to watch him in 2015, assuming he wins the starting job over J.T. Barrett.

    Jones needs to improve his ability to throw while under heat. He also needs to get faster working through his progressions, moving his eyes and getting rid of the ball. Jones can hold onto the ball too long when plays start to break down on him. When Jones has a clean pocket, he displays the ability to make any throw the NFL asks for. While Jones is a pocket passer, he will take yards on the ground when available and has some athleticism as a runner. Jones can be tough to bring down for defenders in or out of the pocket.

    Sources from multiple teams said that they view Jones as having a first-round skill set and if performed for an entire season the way he played in his three starts, he would be a first-rounder. Teams have questions about Jones' football I.Q. and off-the-field maturity, so his pre-draft interviews will be important to address those questions.




    5. Christian Hackenberg, QB, Penn State
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 234.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.87.
    Projected Round (2016): 2-3.
    11/19/15: In 2015, Hackenberg has completed 54 percent of his passes for 1,997 yards with 13 touchdowns and three interceptions. He had terrible games against Rutgers and Temple, but good outings against Buffalo, San Diego State, Indiana and Illinois.

    Clearly, Hackenberg needs to improve his accuracy and decision-making, but the junior is still playing in a bad situation with a weak offensive line and weak receivers. He also is a pro-style quarterback forced to play in a college spread offense that doesn't fit him well at all. Over the last two seasons, Hackenberg has routinely made some beautiful throws that are dropped by his receivers.

    In speaking with sources, some teams see Hackenberg as a potential top quarterback prospect, but others don't like him. The ones who don't say that he has average accuracy and is a statue in the pocket. There also is concern about how teammates respond to him.

    8/8/15: Hackenberg completed 56 percent of his passes in 2014 for 2,677 yards with 12 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. He played better than the numbers indicate as his supporting cast was a huge liability, including an awful offensive line. Hackenberg closed out the 2014 season with a huge comeback overtime win over Boston College, completing 34-of-50 for 371 yards and four touchdowns.

    In terms of a skill set, Hackenberg has what the NFL is looking for with a size, pocket presence, field-vision potential and a strong arm that can push the ball downfield. James Franklin's offense didn't help Hackenberg develop much as a NFL pocket-passer prospect last season as so many of the play calls were instant throws because of a weak offensive line that couldn't maintain its blocks. Hackenberg needs to improve his ball placement and decision-making in some areas, but his supporting cast really hurt him last year. At times, Hackenberg makes some brilliant throws downfield after working off his first read, and if he does that regularly as a junior, he could be a high first-rounder.

    Hackenberg was the star recruit for Bill O'Brien and proved the hype legit during an impressive freshman season that saw him named the Big Ten Freshman of the Year. Hackenberg completed 59 percent of his passes for 2,955 yards with 20 touchdowns and 10 interceptions in 2013. He also ran for four touchdowns. Sources in the NFL feel that Hackenberg could end up being an elite quarterback prospect.
    Shutup dumbass.

    How about them Saints, HA~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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    I provided statistical evidence that scouts and coaches still value white pocket QBs, and you replied with something a 12 year old would write. You're pathetic.

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    It may be harder to defend mobile QBs in the college game, but the NFL is different. A QB has to be able to pass first to succeed. That's been proven over and over. The quality of QB play has hurt the league this season since pocket passers are few and far between. RW has succeeded, but he's also been blessed with the top defense in the league for three straight seasons. Otherwise the Seahawks would have been an average team like they are this season.

    Look at the top offenses in the league this season. The Cards, Pats, Panthers, Packers, Bengals, and Giants are led by pocket passing. Cam is a runner, but he's improved his passing ability by a ton.

    It's obvious you're re ed you lazy fat bum. The NFL is dependent on pocket passing and when the quality is bad, mediocrity sets in which has happened to the NFL this season.
    Just how dumb asre you?

    PAY ATTENTION~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    We are talking about where things are going in the....FUTURE.....the......FUTURE!!!!!!!!!!! Ok ya dumb ?

    Stupid, do you know anything at all about what is going on in the HS game, well?


    ing idiot~~~~~~

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    I provided statistical evidence that scouts and coaches still value white pocket QBs, and you replied with something a 12 year old would write. You're pathetic.
    Sorry man I got ya mixed up with that other Saints fan dummy.

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    I provided statistical evidence that scouts and coaches still value white pocket QBs, and you replied with something a 12 year old would write. You're pathetic.
    he probably had one of his child slaves respond

    don't be surprised if in about 10 years, we start to hear about a group of 20-somethings that have evidence of sexual abuse and brainwashing.
    They wander about muttering names of sprinters and black running backs in order of their speed.

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    Rodgers, brees, mannings, Rivers, big rape, tom, palmer, flacco, ryan -- all of them over 30 and in one way or the other on their way out.

    s and other men of color are finally inheriting the QB spot which white jew GMs and Owners for years have tried to blackball them away from and pigeonhole them elsewhere.

    Under 30... it's all about Wilson, Cam, Mariota, Winston, Bridgewater, Tyrod... they're gonna be running in five years or less
    how are Brady or Palmer on their way out? Brady is the runaway MVP pick this year and Palmer has the highest passer rating in the NFL. I also at using Rodgers as an example of a white QB on his way out is particularly ironic since he's been struggling due to defenses forcing him to stay in the pocket.

    Winston and Newton are the only two QBs on your jig list with a chance at becoming elite. Russell Wilson has had no statistical improvement from his rookie year (likely due to teams having more film on him so they've figured out ways to keep him in the pocket). Mariota has had two good games against atrocious pass Ds but nothing else that's noteworthy. Bridgewater and Tyrod are 28th and 29th in passing yards per game, respectively, and have shown nothing beyond decent game managing skills.

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    It's surprising he's not getting enough MVP talk.
    Palmer has been making 1-2 boneheaded decisions every week that imo prevent him from being in the MVP discussion, especially with two other QBs who have led their team to undefeated records. He lost the game against Pittsburgh with an unnecessary 1st down pass into triple coverage, he had the unneeded redzone interception against Seattle, he had an interception against Cinci that made no sense, and plenty more that I'm not thinking of. There's no question he's having a great year but he's made a few big mistakes that are keeping him out of the MVP talk.

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    he probably had one of his child slaves respond

    don't be surprised if in about 10 years, we start to hear about a group of 20-somethings that have evidence of sexual abuse and brainwashing.
    They wander about muttering names of sprinters and black running backs in order of their speed.
    You really this stupid little fella?

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    Shutup dumbass.

    How about them Saints, HA~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Shows how pathetic you are. Trying to use a poster's team to discredit his post. Lazy perverted fat .

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    Shows how pathetic you are. Trying to use a poster's team to discredit his post. Lazy perverted fat .
    Little man, the only thing fat on me is my wallet, ok? And, if you think sailors/hookers is perverted why am I not surprised, you really that ing stupid?

    And your Saints suck, ok got?

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    Imagine Basketball with just white players,whoa~~~~~

    That speed, quicks, elusiveness is a weapon in any sport, so why limit yourself and try to play without it?

    ONE MORE TIME~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Where did all the white cornerbacks/RB's go, well?

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    Little man, the only thing fat on me is my wallet, ok? And, if you think sailors/hookers is perverted why am I not surprised, you really that ing stupid?

    And your Saints suck, ok got?
    No you're fat and a pervert and your Niners suck more than my Saints.

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    Veteran JoeTait75's Avatar
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    Cardale Jones coming to take his place
    Cardale has a lot of work to do before he becomes a serviceable NFL-level QB.

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    No you're fat and a pervert and your Niners suck more than my Saints.
    Why tell lies er? And my Niners have won how many SB's? How many Niners in the Hall of Fame? How many Niners are the best ever at their position? How many changes to the game started with the Niners?

    Stupid idiot~~~~~

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    ex Hornets78 Pelicans78's Avatar
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    Why tell lies er? And my Niners have won hiow many SB's? How many Niners in the Hall of Fame? How many Niners are the best ever at their position? How many changes to the game started with the Niners?

    Stupid idiot~~~~~
    You're fat, you're lazy, and you'r a pervert.

    Also, the Saints are better this season, and have won a Super Bowl more recently. The Niners haven't won it all in 20 years. The Saints won just 6 years ago.

    So quit living in the past. The Niners aren't what they were in the 80s and 90s. Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Bill Walsh, and Steve Young aren't walking thru that door anytime soon.

    Fat .

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    i been saying this for years. the white qb isn't over but the era of the cement shoe wearing stand in the pocket qb is coming to a close. most of the young dynamic white qb's have the running element to their game, a rodgers, luck, smith, bortles.

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    You're fat, you're lazy, and you'r a pervert.

    Also, the Saints are better this season, and have won a Super Bowl more recently. The Niners haven't won it all in 20 years. The Saints won just 6 years ago.

    So quit living in the past. The Niners aren't what they were in the 80s and 90s. Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Bill Walsh, and Steve Young aren't walking thru that door anytime soon.

    Fat .
    You can't even tell me the color of my hair or if I even have any, so why talk like a total moron? Well?

    Who is living in the past dummy, do you see me talking up my sucky Niners, NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We are terrible! But....if we are talking franchises the Niners are one of the most successful ever, FAR FAR FAR more successful than the Saints, ok stupid?

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    Avante getting ethered in this thread; almost as bad as the interrogation he received from filipino authorities after the 2 eleven year olds he raped told the cops.

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