Will Jimmy Butler Dominate Kawhi tomorrow?

[YGWHI]

Kat bukkake

[bic50]

[Calispursfan11]

Player fans melting down per par. They don't understand that Jimmy's team got the W which is by far the most important thing. Moreover, Jimmy turned Kawhi into a chucker of current Kobe proportions this game which seriously contributed to the loss. Smdh at playerfans tonight tbqh. This is not how Spurs are gonna win the championship. Gotta get the ball moving and stop doing Kawhi isos. He's OK but the Spurs are not constructed to dump it into him or have him shoot a fadeaway whatever as the clock expires. They just won't win that way. Face reality guys. If they can't beat the Bulls with Kawhi doing his best Kobe impression they sure as won't be beating the Warriors or Cavs at this , and lucky to beat the Rockets or Clippers, tbh, going forward with Kawhi trying to be Kobe, Jordan, Lebron, Durant. He's just not. A great player YES and good at defense, but those guys in their prime he ain't and never will be.

[Calispursfan11]

Unless one game somehow puts Jimmy Butler into MVP and DPOY contention, raises his PER into the top5 of the league and raises his eFG% to 58% (he's at 51%) then no, it's not a legit debate.

If Kawhi dips or Jimmy starts playing much better for the rest of the season we can visit this topic. Otherwise it's not even a contest. It's like comparing Chris Bosh to Tim Duncan. Both obviously good but you can't even compare.

Right, Bosh is much better than Duncan this year. Higher PER, ppg and other stats. I agree.

[YGWHI]

They don't understand that Jimmy's team got the W which is by far the most important thing.

Stop lying... If winning is the most important thing to you, why you didn't make a thread saying "Will the Spurs dominate Bulls tomorrow" instead the Kawhi vs Butler thread?

Gotta get the ball moving and stop doing Kawhi isos.

Isos? He's taking just one more per game than last season.

What's even more interesting than his continued development is the way his usage has increased. It's a reflection of the adaptability of San Antonio's offense that Leonard has been able to accomplish increase in responsibility while the overall product at the team level remains fairly similar. According to the NBA's play type statistics he's still averaging about 1.5 team created shots (spot-ups, cuts, off-screen, hand-offs) for every one self-created shot (pick-and-roll ball-handler, post-up, isolation) he takes.
Self created: 2014-15 5.5, 2015-16 6.5

they can't beat the Bulls with Kawhi...won't be beating the Warriors

Yeah..because they never beat the Warrios with Kawhi playing at high level. Kawhi...26 pts 7 stls

[bic50]

If winning is the most important thing to you, why you didn't make a thread saying "Will the Spurs dominate Bulls tomorrow" instead the Kawhi vs Butler thread?



Isos? He's taking just one more per game than last season.

What's even more interesting than his continued development is the way his usage has increased. It's a reflection of the adaptability of San Antonio's offense that Leonard has been able to accomplish increase in responsibility while the overall product at the team level remains fairly similar. According to the NBA's play type statistics he's still averaging about 1.5 team created shots (spot-ups, cuts, off-screen, hand-offs) for every one self-created shot (pick-and-roll ball-handler, post-up, isolation) he takes.
Self created: 2014-15 5.5, 2015-16 6.5




Yeah..because they never beat the Warrios with Kawhi playing at high level. Kawhi...26 pts 7 stls

[Neurosis]

Right, Bosh is much better than Duncan this year. Higher PER, ppg and other stats. I agree.

Well I was talking career comparison to sort of highlight that the huge gap between Butler vs. Kawhi this season is like Bosh career vs. Duncan career.

But if you want to be a smartass, let's compare the two anyway
Duncan per 36 mins has:
More boards
More blocks
More assists
More steals
4% higher eFG%
+2 better in RPM
Captain of the team with the leagues 2nd best record

But yeah, Bosh has more PPG so I guess he's a better player

Also if it's wins that ultimately matter then:
Kawhi wins: 14
Butler wins: 10

getting wrecked by your own measurements.

[bic50]

Well I was talking career comparison to sort of highlight that the huge gap between Butler vs. Kawhi this season is like Bosh career vs. Duncan career.

But if you want to be a smartass, let's compare the two anyway
Duncan per 36 mins has:
More boards
More blocks
More assists
More steals
4% higher eFG%
+2 better in RPM
Captain of the team with the leagues 2nd best record

But yeah, Bosh has more PPG so I guess he's a better player

[kawhidoyoudothistome]

Butler takes it to the rim as time winds down, draws the foul and sinks both FTs to break the Spurs' back. Beats Kawhi in shooting %, ties in 3 point %, beats Kawhi in free throw %, ties Kawhi in assists, commits less fouls than Kawhi, beats Kawhi in blocks. Plays an overall more efficient game than Kawhi but most importantly, his team wins, all while Jimmy is nursing an injury from the Warriors game. As I predicted, he didn't dominate Kawhi but he played the game the right way and his team won. Kawhi chucked it as is the Spurs new approach and the Spurs lost using that approach. We have a long way to go before we can challenge Golden State and we have to become less Kawhi-centric as is obvious from tonight's game.

Yes, because ty bench play totally wasn't the reason the Spurs lost. Kawhi only hurt his team, while Butler was the greatest man on earth for ting the bed until his late drive to the basket.