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Pau Gasol is an underrated defender. KG just makes a good ugly face
I'm okay with any list that has Timmy at #1.
Pau Gasol is an underrated defender. KG just makes a good ugly face
I would put Chris Webber or Rasheed Wallace over Rodman. Rodman was a great defensive player but his offense was awful.
Exactly this. Rodman was also a ty teammate.
Pau is an underrated everything. The western conference was murderer's row of power forwards, and he always held his own. His legacy took a hit when he went to LA and was the whipping boy for every delusional Kobe fan in the world and the legions of people who repeated what they heard without bothering to pay attention. The reality is that the Lakers were a laughing stock before he arrived, they were a champion and a perennial contender when he was there, and they went back to being a laughing stock when he moved on to Chicago, where they're now a contender in the east.
Agreed and he's the type of player who bails on his team when facing adversity or when they are not an immediate contender. He's very toxic that I believe if the Spurs didn't trade him to the bulls he would have been out of the league just due to his toxicity. What people don't remember about the Rodman trade to the bulls was that the Spurs tried to get better offers for Rodman throughout the league but nobody wanted to touch him because he was too damn toxic that's why the Spurs had to settle on getting Perdue. It took him playing with the best player and best coach in the world at that time for him to mentally stay under control. After the breakup of the bulls Rodman had flame outs in LA and Dallas. I'm convinced if he wasn't so toxic he could have played a few more years.
KG is one of the greatest defenders of all-time at his position. Gasol wasn't as terrible as he was made out to be, but I would never consider him a "great" defender. KG was also a monster on offense too. He was a complete player. Gasol wasn't nearly the two-way player that KG was even if he was a bit more versatile on offense.
If Dirk really was capable of single handedly leading teams to the Finals he would have done it every year. The same could be said of all the great players. The fact is it takes a team to have success. Just because the Mavs didn't have any other Allstars doesn't mean they didn't have the right pieces in the right places.
lol Karl Malone and his (Jazz) fans. That ringless pedophile has nothing but a career full of spoon fed empty stats.
You have made a lot dumb posts in this thread and this is definitely the dumbest by far. Garnett and Nowitzki are interchangeable between the #4 and #5 spot, IMHO. They both helped revolutionize the power forward position and were great rivals to Timmy Duncan. This list is pretty terrible with Gasol and Rodman somehow being wrongfully placed in the top 10. Oh well, can't expect much better from the idiots over at BSPN.
The way the game is played now they've probably gotta stop with this All time Centre, All Time PF, All Time SF All Time SG lists. The game has changed sooo much that most positions these days are interchangeable. Cut out the C, PF, SF SG. Should just be best big men, best wings, and best PG as the PG are 'usually' the most identifiable. It's a lot of basketball based on matchups which make the name of most positions redundant. The difference between C & PF, PF & SF, SF & SG, SG & PG gets narrower each year. eg: people like Lillard, Westbrook and Curry probably woulda been undersized SG's many years ago.
That's not correct. He was the difference because he was aggressive going toward the basket instead of just being a jump shooter. Just because they had the right pieces in the right places doesn't meat they could have done it even if Dirk hadn't been aggressive and led them there.
I have no problem with Dirk being where he is on the list. And if Rodman is so terrible at #10 who are you going to put there in front of him?
People also forget Rodman's Detroit years when he actually was a somewhat legit force on offense. I'm not sure what happened with that. The guy was/honestly a great basketball player who just had a few screws loose. I really wish that someone had been able to take him aside in his late teens and early 20's when he started the hard core drinking and eccentricity and attempted to help him with his mental demons.
what is Gasol doing there?
Gasol definitely belongs to the list tbh
I'd put Webber and Rasheed ahead of him.
Nobody forgets Rodman's Detroit years. He lived off that for the rest of his career. He wasn't much more than a stat-padder after he left the Pistons.
I would disagree that he was an important part of the bulls second championship series. His defensive contributions were important and he did vacuum up rebounds like no-other player at the time. It was very odd though in that he seemed to almost refuse to participate in the offense other than put-backs. He was also a serious part of the media circus that was mid to late 90's bulls. His Laker and mav's time was stat-padding or teams hoping that he would be able to set aside the crazy for another chance.
Personally his time with the spurs was a doldrums between a pistons peak and a slightly lower bulls peak during what probably should have been his most productive years as a player age and development wise.
Any number of forwards would threepeat with that team. I think they saw one game 7 in three years. I'd add Horry to the list of fours I'd have above Rodman.
That team may well have gotten championships with a random above average power forward but they also would likely have been considerably less dominate. Horry much like Diaw is a considerably above average player who for whatever reason does not sustain his productivity for any explicably stimuli. Someday they show and wow everyone others they're just there and no one other than perhaps the player themselves is sure why.
can't agree with this more!
Gasol has better numbers and more rings. As stated earlier by OV, Lakers were a joke before Gasol arrived and Kobe cried about wanting to be traded. Gasol arrives and they win 2 les. I'll take the results over the hype.
Garnett always reminded me of the Admiral in terms of on-court impact. Of course their personalities are completely different.
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