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If Bonner is done why not just bring up Cady Lallane?
Actually, Bonner is already a coach. He works with the young big men on shooting. Matt may be at the end of the bench but his contract is perfect for what he does. A few minutes here and there and helping coach.
If Bonner is done why not just bring up Cady Lallane?
I am totally lacking in any real intel. I am curious; how do you know what role Bonner has in developing the younger guys? I kind of presume that is the case, but I've never been to a Spurs practice to witness it; nor have I ever read anything online or heard any interviews that mad that point.
At any rate, whatever his unofficial role is, I find it very difficult to imagine that Pop would release Bonner unless both Tim and Manu were both out for an extended period.
Tim is apparently already doing 3 on 3 and getting ready to get back, which is good news.
Manu you already know.
I don't think he's released, but the concern and discussion was that calf strains are notoriously slow to recover from specially for older men.. so he might really be out for most of the remaining season. He played so little that it doesn't matter for us, unless we got more ppl injured. Hopefully that is not the case, and with TD set to come back, we can let Bonner do his thing.
Because that's a horrible idea. Now bringing up Ndoye wouldn't be all that bad.
Why is that?
Lallane is a 6'10" guy with a 7' 3" wing span. Has an NBA skill in his shooting for a stretch 4. Also is a good rebounder and good athlete.
ndoye is a 7'er, that's it.
Lallane has shown great progress in Austin.
Is he related to Jack Lalanne?
Bonner is not suiting up for the Spurs tonight. Or were you talking about you and Bonner seeing each other tonight?
ElNono and I have discussed it and if you would like to take the night off from crumpet baking we support you 100%.
Chump and I are going to be taking turns watching reruns of A Christmas Story with Matty in his hospital room while he recovers.
You're welcome to bring some tea in the evening if you can/want.
Been interested in Ndoye for a little while. Glad to see you think he's got some possible potential.
Dont feel bad it was my wet dream to.
Do you honestly believe that of the two Ndoye is more NBA-ready than Lalanne?
I haven't watched them since SL (just one game I watched of Lalanne with Ray, and I focused on watching them and didn't see Ndoye).. but they are different players. Ndoye is a true center, Lalanne is a PF, similar in size to D.West although less strong. Lalanne would make both Bonner and Butler redundancies.
Ndoye on the other hand, would take Boban's spot. He was an offensively raw guy, but he's a true center. Seemed like 7' and with length. He showed more defensive potential than Boban in preseason actually, bc he was much more athletic and agile. He also had good instincts getting his hands in the passing lanes and getting a steal here or there, or blocking a shot, without the concern with Boban that he will foul someone bc he's so big that he's unable to control his momentum. Nodye was very raw yes, but had potential and is younger than Boban and will be cheaper.
Since we already have so many PF and not a real defensive centers (outside of Timmy), Ndoye is more of a need. Although you can probably add both guys bc Bonner and Butler would become redundancies (they almost already are anyways).
Lalanne would be Bonner-lite in this current roster. Ndoye however could have even displaced Boban if he showed up with better defense, and was able to act as a roll man in the PnR which Boban is just terrible at (because he doesn't set proper picks to free up the ballhandler and is too slow rolling).
Just my opinion, but I don't know how he's been doing in the dleague though. He could be more of a need.
Like you I saw them both in SL, and I have seen them in a couple of D-league broadcasts. I understand their differences. I wasn't really questioning skill-sets but skill-level. I just don't see Ndoye's being able to contribute many minutes in the NBA without fouling out in short order. On the Raw Scale, Ndoye seems like an 8 while Cady seems more like a 5.
Has nothing to do with that. The Spurs don't have Ndoye's rights, so they should sign him to protect him for next year's camp. No one can sign Lalanne this season besides the Spurs, and them doing so forfeits a year of his rookie contract. And it's not like either will play a role this season, so it makes no sense to lose flexibility on both.
But I actually do like Ndoye quite a bit. I think he can be a Splitter-like player in time, though he doesn't have quite the upside. He's just a big, strong dude who can roll, post up and shoot from midrange. None of those things is a real strength for him yet, but he's not just a boulder out there. Defensively, he looks like he can move his feet well, and he's not hesitant to mix things up inside.
Dude should be getting more love, honestly.
Here are some more highlights:
DeShaun Thomas had a beautiful assist in that game.
Those are nice looking highlights from Ndoye. Moves his feet well and has nice timing on those blocked shots. Good looking prospect indeed.
Thanks for the explanation and the highlights. It wasn't clear that your original comment was more contractual/strategic than basketball oriented. You make terrific strategic points.Having watched the SL squad and a couple of D-league games, I absolutely agree with you about Ndoye's strengths. In SL I thought he was very athletic, but not much in the way of basketball skill. He definitely is not a boulder; he has pretty quick feet that could, with fundamental training and some experience, translate well to the NBA. He is coming along in Austin. Perhaps we should ensure ourselves of his services next season.
I believe that Cady is also a good prospect. He is making very good strides in Austin, IMHO. In SL, he showed no evidence of shooting the 3-ball well enough to become an effective stretch 4. But he has become a reliable threat in Austin.
I'll be honest Boban didn't impress in preseason ( I remember the block by the Birdman) and how much trouble he had with guards swiping the ball and taking it from him. He also looked slower than he does now. I actually liked Ndoye more bc his motor and his activity was higher than Boban. He actually scored out of steals (I remember him going coast to coast once) Boban needed set plays. Obviously Boban was signed so Ndoye had no chance, but considering how poor all if them looked preseason (even Simmons) I was more impressed by Ndoyes activity level and motor. He was obviously raw so dleague 1 season will do wonders for him.
Boban himself needed a couple of dleague games to gain his confidence and he's a European veteran with a more polished game.
I was thinking Lallane as a replacement for Bonner if he is out with injury. So it wouldn't be redundancy if Bonner is not here.
Ndoye does have more agility to play the PnR.
Ndoye rebounds at an NBA level. Lalanne doesn't quite do anything at an NBA level yet.
Ndoye rebounds at an NBA level, and Lalanne doesn't have an NBA skill? Do you just make up?
Ndoye averages 7.3 rebounds a game and 1.1 blocks a game
Lalanne averages 7.8 rebounds a game and 1.2 blocks a game and is shooting 36% from 3.
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