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    There are not enough shots per game in our system for the Spurs to accommodate Durant and his chucking. Just saying what we all know he is.

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    There are not enough shots per game in our system for the Spurs to accommodate Durant and his chucking. Just saying what we all know he is.
    Durant is not a chucker bro. Like not even close.

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    Slip up but it's fine bro.

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    Not to mention the Lamarcus and Kawhi contracts are no longer the same level of max contracts under a rising cap. At an $89 million cap, they only take up 23% and 20% of the cap respectively. If it goes up to $108 million in 2017-18 (when Durant can command the $30+ million 10+ year player deal), it's a much lower percentage of the cap and a totally different ballgame.

    Without moving one of the $10mm plus salaries, and assuming everyone else either opts out (Duncan, Manu, West) or is not renewed / is renounced / traded (Diaw has a $3mm guarantee), and then assuming minimum cap holds, the payroll would be $66.5 million committed (Aldridge, Leonard, Parker, Green and 7 cap holds). That leaves only around $22.5 million for Durant. Not enough. Green would almost certainly need to be shipped out to fit Durant as we know Parker wouldn't be. Not advocating that, but just how the numbers shake out.

    Best chance I see is if he opts in like most think he will, and then hits the market the following year:
    - Aldridge / Leonard / Parker / Green combine for $65.8 million
    - Diaw is a nice asset (he can be traded if playing well to create space, or can be cut for nothing post-free agency, so might bring future value back in a three teamer that lets another team cut salary)
    - Mills' cap hold is pretty high at $6.8 million. I'll assume he goes to create space
    - Anderson and Simmons would have combined cap figures/holds of $2.4 million, so assume they'd be kept around even though could technically create more space by moving them

    That means six players signed at $68.2 million. Five more holds at the league minimum adds $2.9 million to that. $71.0mm vs. $108mm cap means $37mm of space, which is more than enough to sign Durant to the full max. In fact, they could get away with resigning Patty at around $5 million and still have $31mm, so just slightly under max money for Durant.

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    There are not enough shots per game in our system for the Spurs to accommodate Durant and his chucking. Just saying what we all know he is.
    what?

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    Yeah, KD is one of the most efficient players in the league. Him chucking (which he doesn't) isn't exactly a bad thing

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    Honestly how Parker has been playing thses last couple years, I see RC and pop telling tony we need to restructure his contract even though it's never been done before in NBA or looked to just give him away for a draft pick. I'm telling u pop isn't playing around with just sitting back and let Kawhi's talent go to waste. He sees another Duncan mind set in Kawhi and not going to let LMA just rot on team. They didn't just drop $84mil and $94mil to have those talents go to waste. I could see pop and RC coming up with a trade like Parker/green for something to. If warriors win it all this year, they have to go all in to win it all again. If Durant went to warriors then everyone ed but our only hope would be to sign James to at least have the regular season worth watching. My bet he stays in OKC for a long term contract. But I'll say this that Russell on the other hand would leave in 2017. That would be funny if Durant signs a 5yr deal and then the next year Russell bolts to another team. Durant would be in the same boat of Carmelo but with some better players compared to the Knicks.

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    It doesn't make much sense. Just between Aldridge, Leonard, Parker, and Green they're at $62.6 million committed. With an $89 million cap Durant's going to be looking at $31 million starting, and the Spurs would already have a payroll $4.6 million too high between those four players to accomodate Durant. And they're not going to tell West to go himself after the huge paycut he took to come here, nor should they. Durant is really only doable if the Spurs salary dump Parker in the offseason, assuming Duncan and Ginobili both retire. It's one thing to salary dump Splitter for an Aldridge who looked like he was out of Portland for sure, but to dump Tony when Durant has always shown a lot of loyalty to OKC?
    Okay.

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    Yeah, KD is one of the most efficient players in the league. Him chucking (which he doesn't) isn't exactly a bad thing
    I didn't say that he is not good in shot selection, but I am saying he takes a high volume of shots. I think you already have two primarily iso players in KL and LMA and you are going to add a third option to that? I just think he would take touches away from KL because he needs to have the ball in his hands.

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    Cant wait till this becomes JUST enough of a realistic pipe dream for people to take it seriously and become emotionally invested.

    This is gonna be better than the Pau Gasol thread.

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    It all depends on how the playoffs turn out, were the Dubs to win this year, KD going there would be called the ultimate Beta move, why not come to the Spurs to stop the evil empire? The same people that would deride him for going to the Dubs would praise him for choosing us. What if however we win it all this year (because I still believe that we can)? Then how does that change the dynamic? For me it would depend after we grab 6 do some of our OG's ride off into the sunset or does Timmay say, "why not 7?" Then the KD move becomes more unlikely. Were the Dubs to win and KD goes there I could see LBJ coming here but were we to win this year, all bets would be off. I would assume everyone stays where they are because the belief would be "the Spurs are too old we can wait them out"

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    I didn't say that he is not good in shot selection, but I am saying he takes a high volume of shots. I think you already have two primarily iso players in KL and LMA and you are going to add a third option to that? I just think he would take touches away from KL because he needs to have the ball in his hands.
    If Kawhi's 3pt shooting isn't just a one season anomaly, I think he'd be a great fit next to KD. Durant isn't a diva who wants the last shot, he's willing to take a backseat every now and then tbh.

    But all this is pointless because it won't happen

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    If Kawhi's 3pt shooting isn't just a one season anomaly, I think he'd be a great fit next to KD. Durant isn't a diva who wants the last shot, he's willing to take a backseat every now and then tbh.

    But all this is pointless because it won't happen
    Because he thinks Kawhi is worse than Bonner, tbh.

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    There are not enough shots per game in our system for the Spurs to accommodate Durant and his chucking. Just saying what we all know he is.
    This is why the low usage, blue collar stuff, hustle guys like Danny, or glue, versatile all around players like Kyle are underrated. They do all the little things that help your stars win games, and take only the shots they need to take. Adding an offensive player does not add more offense unless it were to come from a guard where we are very weak with Manu about to retire and Tony looking spent.

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    This is why the low usage, blue collar stuff, hustle guys like Danny, or glue, versatile all around players like Kyle are underrated. They do all the little things that help your stars win games, and take only the shots they need to take. Adding an offensive player does not add more offense unless it were to come from a guard where we are very weak with Manu about to retire and Tony looking spent.
    No they are not.

    They are rated what they are. Good role players. Except Kyle. He is trash.

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    Honestly how Parker has been playing thses last couple years, I see RC and pop telling tony we need to restructure his contract even though it's never been done before in NBA or looked to just give him away for a draft pick. I'm telling u pop isn't playing around with just sitting back and let Kawhi's talent go to waste. He sees another Duncan mind set in Kawhi and not going to let LMA just rot on team. They didn't just drop $84mil and $94mil to have those talents go to waste. I could see pop and RC coming up with a trade like Parker/green for something to. If warriors win it all this year, they have to go all in to win it all again. If Durant went to warriors then everyone ed but our only hope would be to sign James to at least have the regular season worth watching. My bet he stays in OKC for a long term contract. But I'll say this that Russell on the other hand would leave in 2017. That would be funny if Durant signs a 5yr deal and then the next year Russell bolts to another team. Durant would be in the same boat of Carmelo but with some better players compared to the Knicks.
    An existing contract cannot be renegotiated downward.

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    That would be insane imho.

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    I didn't say that he is not good in shot selection, I am saying he takes a high volume of shots. I think you already have two primarily iso players in KL and LMA and you are going to add a third option to that? I just think he would take touches away from KL because he needs to have the ball in his hands.
    Because in OKC he needs to. Just like LaMarcus did in Portland.

    If you have the remote possibility of adding Kevin Durant to your squad, you just go for it.

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    Obviously it's not going to happen. But kawhi is a team guy, I'm sure he could put whatever issues he has with durant behind him and be a great teammate.

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    This contradicts an earlier Buck Harvey report that the Spurs will stand pat this offseason, and chase their next big superstar a couple of years from now.

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    KD taking a paycut?
    Unless that occurs, this signing is not happening.

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    Honestly i wouldn't care to get him. But if we did obviously i'd be happy.

    But right now I'd rather the Spurs get a great defensive big (if timmy retires) Like Ibaka, Noah, Gobert, etc. to complement Kawhi and Lamarcus.

    I love how the Spurs have really come back to being the best defensive team and i want them to stay that way.
    Rather have gobert over ibaka Noah for sure

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    Just waive Enrique

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    Because in OKC he needs to. Just like LaMarcus did in Portland.

    If you have the remote possibility of adding Kevin Durant to your squad, you just go for it.
    My sentiments exactly. It's funny how this time last year we were rumored to go after LMA/Gasol. Maybe there's some truth to it. I think if both parties wanted to, both would find a way.

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    If you have the remote possibility of adding Kevin Durant to your squad, you just go for it.

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