That's only the question if you assume those guys are ahead of Anderson. There's been absolutely nothing to suggest they are. Martin's been bad on both sides of the ball. Miller has been good, at least in my opinion, but he can't fill the cracks in the same way Anderson can. I do think there are minutes for Andre in some match-ups, but that's not a more solid rotation spot than Anderson has.
I'm asking you why you think Kyle's minutes would fluctuate.
I don't think he gets meaningful minutes vs Portland or OKC or GS, period.
I expect Pop to throw nothing but older veterans out there, no matter what matchup disadvantages you think there might be
the peak of jimmers value was before he played in an NBA game
Tiago was a stable rotation player his second post-season. He wasn't the key cog he'd become the next year, but at 13mpg, he played plenty more than you guys are assuming Anderson would play.
You're asking because you didn't understand my statement. I said he'd get the minutes those other guys didn't. Those guys won't play all of the minutes, and how many they play depends on the quality of their opponent. It's not rocket science. Pop would ideally like to play his guys low minutes for the whole post-season. So if he is facing a weaker team, he'll do what he can to keep his main guys' minutes down. If he does that, Anderson plays more. It's simple.
This is only hard to people who are assuming Martin or Miller will be a bona fide rotation player, and there's no evidence that Pop even wants that now and even less that those guys are earning one.
Except Tiago was a much more experienced player with already a long career overseas... not very comparable tbh
I wasn't the one who made the comparison. We can talk about Hill playing more in his second year. Or Green being a rotation player his second year in the system.
but you are the one saying: "but at 13mpg, he played plenty more than you guys are assuming Anderson would play." I'm just pointing out, that's not a great comparaison.
Danny was 24, Kyle is 22 and was playing 23 mn with the spurs significantly more than Kyle
George was 23 and playing almost 30 mpg twice as much as Kyle
There is nothing in Tiago, Danny and George second year indicative of how much Pop will use Kyle...
BTW George and Kyle have been selected same rank in draft, difference of production, evolution vs. college years at almost same age is quite telling
One good game, and he went from being a Stretch-4 to a Point-Forward. (I guess four guys like Kyle and a Center, and you'd have a complete team.) How many times this season has Fathead made more than one 3-pointers in a single game? Twice. Two times he's made two 3-pointers in a game. And we all saw what happens when he's put on someone like Durant. It's kinda hard to be either a Stretch-4 or a Point-Forward when you don't stretch the defense, you aren't strong enough to post up forwards, and you really can't defend like a forward.
You know what a "taint" is? ('Taint your ass and 'taint your balls neither.) With a few exceptions, "combo" players are the taints of the NBA. That's because they get forced into the worst of both skill sets by good teams. They can be good players - except in those situations where they aren't.
I've said from the beginning that Kyle should be able to develop into a useful role/situation player. Boris has the strength to post up a lot of guys, and the handles to go under/around a lot of others. His skills and physical attributes are good enough to actually dominate in a lot of situations. Kyle is adequate in a number of areas. Which, translated, means that he gets his ass kicked about as often as he kicks ass. He'll have some good games, depending on who he's matched up with. But he needs work and improvement before he's consistent enough to be a meaningful playoff player for the Spurs.
BTW - since nobody has mentioned it, the one noteworthy area where Kyle has improved is his in-between game. So he's shooting a lot more of those shots this season, and his FG% has improved. Did you see him on that fast break against Memphis? A good Point-Forward would have taken it to the rack. But Kyle gets run down from behind a LOT on fast breaks, and doesn't have the athleticism to adjust at the rim to be sure he doesn't get blocked. So Fathead stops a fast break to pull up and shoot about a 14-footer. THAT is his comfort zone. To his credit, he knocked it down. But even a good percentage on those shots is a lot worse than the layups that fast breaks should be getting.
I answered twice. Again circles. I think you are the one who cares too much to be right on this. Twice I answered, twice.
You give up a lot playing 3 guards. Manu used to be so good he could hide horrible lineups. Marco also was only valuable if he was on fire. Otherwise you had to go with someone else. Danny/Kawhi being so young meant you didn't have to play Marco much if you didn't want to or if he was being eaten alive on defense. I don't think Martin has been as good as Marco offensively. Hater or whoever called that was right. They already have a lot of trouble rebounding and OKC is a team this season that plays a lot of wings with size and strength to bully small guards.
I am not going to Nostradamus anything on this one bc it really depends on matchups from OKC and as I argued initially I simply stated Kyle has earned a chance. He has to reward the coach's trust with good play.
I imagine you can relate. The peak of your value was probably the day you were born.
This is not his only good game. He had several good games when we were shorthanded. We probably don't win 12 games without Kawhi, Tim and Manu unless he played well. In Pop's interview in the article I quoted above Pop stated quite literally that "he's a good player and that he's been doing that all season." (Imo, showing up with good play when we have been shorthanded). If anything, he hasn't been played enough to his strengths bc he has been shoehorned into a role by the needs of this current team and he is still learning how to play.
He wasn't a match for Durant but really, there are few guys in the league who are, and they are max or near max players. If that is your standard then you are being unreasonable. He's a quality bench player currently. Against other bench players or some non star players like Matt Barnes he can have good games. That frankly is a nice young player to have.
I really don't care enough to go back to dig up how many minutes you said.
I find it hilarious whenever people type "I already posted that" when it takes almost identical effort to just repeat themselves
If that's your way of saying your done talking about it, fine by me. Of course, you could also just stop talking about it.
1/10 burn
I don't know about that. So far, KMart has played basically the same MPG as Anderson (Kyle 15.3, KMart 14.7). Simms is not that far behind, BTW, at 14.3, but he did play less games, and I would consider him also another player that might not be ready for the big stage, barring injury. Also Pop has been explicit that he got KMart because the thought he would use him. We'll see I suppose.
It is about matchups, but it's also about execution and consistency. That's absolutely key in the playoffs. That's why I don't see Anderson past the 1st round. He's just not very good right now.
I think 2 or 3 may have been warranted given that it was a comeback and not a desperate attempt to be funny. But thanks for your feedback.
I imagine Sagirl is off somewhere touching herself to these highlights
George played all 4 yrs in college. Kyle came in as a sop re to a team that didn't have a need for his skill set immediately as they were looking to repeat back then and they could afford to let him develop in his own time. By all means, it seems Spurs are happy with his progress.
Only in Spurs talk a young roleplayer has a good game and instead of being inspired since we have so few good young prospects it inspires a hate wagon.!
I think he's played well enough after getting more time and opportunities. Can't count early season struggles when he was benched for a single mistake. A necessity since he was a rookie-like player, in formative stages of his game, but which also made him play more timid. He has since then been playing much better.
Besides, isn't there a lengthy thread about how inconsistent the committee has been in general?
This is why using mpg was always a poor choice. I am more talking about Brazil than you. But yeah. Anderson has played 18.2 minutes per game since Martin's been on the team. Half of Martin's total Spurs minutes (74) have been in the last three games, and Anderson has played more minutes (91) in those games. They really aren't close right now. Of the 10 games Martin and Anderson have both played, Kyle has played more minutes in seven of those.
He got Boban for the same reason. That doesn't mean either will be in the playoff rotation.Also Pop has been explicit that he got KMart because the thought he would use him.
Indeed, that's all we can do.We'll see I suppose.
Why all the hate for KA? He is a young guy with warts who is learning how to be a good player. He is very versatile so it will take a bit longer for him to master all the skills he needs than someone like Simmons who has a defined role.
The Spurs aren't getting any better prospects than Kyle unless they trade a rotation piece so enjoy his journey. It reminds me in some ways of the road Kawahi took in that it took him until his 3rd year before we saw what he could become. No one can say during Kawahi's second year that he would become the player he is today. I don't expect the same growth from KA but I do believe he is a piece of the long-term future.
That's getting it twisted. Someone was like, "Splitter didn't play, so why would Kyle." I was like, "Splitter was a rotation player his second year." And you try to make it seem like I'm making a bad comparison. I'm not making any comparison. The issue here is that people are trying to compare Anderson in his second year to other players in their first years. Pop has indeed given second-year guys shots in the playoffs. His age has nothing to do with it. The Spurs will either need him or they won't. But they aren't falling all over themselves to get a vet to take his place. There's no reason at all to trust Martin over Anderson right now. None at all.
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