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    And yet the Spurs play great with him on the floor.
    LMA was -7 and Boban was +6.

    So we should start Boban over LMA now?

    No one uses single box score +/-, bro. The stat is beyond flawed and means nothing.

    I finally agree with you that Patty is probably not any worse of a choice than Parker at this point. As HH said, the Spurs lack a starting caliber PG right now. Worrying. And Danny Green's inconsistency remains a big problem. Another poor shooting night.

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    LMA was -7 and Boban was +6.

    So we should start Boban over LMA now?

    No one uses single box score +/-, bro. The stat is beyond flawed and means nothing.

    I finally agree with you that Patty is probably not any worse of a choice than Parker at this point. As HH said, the Spurs lack a starting caliber PG right now. Worrying. And Danny Green's inconsistency remains a big problem. Another poor shooting night.
    LMA went supernova. What patty and parker brings are different "systems" when they each enter. You keep ignoring that. Stop doing that.

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    Patty has played better than Parker. Even tonight. He took 2 great charges on fast breaks.

    ...and patty gets paid 5 times less. Parker is the problem, has been for awhile. Not our backup point guard...our starting pg.

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    LMA went supernova. What patty and parker brings are different "systems" when they each enter. You keep ignoring that. Stop doing that.
    True. How do you think Parker got 12 dimes last game? He was setting up both LMA and Green.

    Patty plays better alongside Kawhi.

    Both aren't worth a as scorers who can relieve pressure, though. I'm sick of both them under-performing. No favorite either way.

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    Parker passes the ball on P&R's

    Mills just rushes re ed shots after screens

    "Different systems"

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    Have you seen his playoff stats?

    That isn't worth 3 million. He got paid that contract based off his 2014 coming out party, and was heretofore expected to keep up that level of consistency.

    And no need to deflect with Parker criticism. He sucks too. The PG rotation on this team is total and will be the death of the Spurs in the this round or the next. LMA can't hold this team's hand over 6 or 7 games.
    have you seen parker's? if you don't think patty is worth $3 million, you surely don't think parker is worth $14?

    one is a bigger issue than the other. what's worse: a starting pg playing bad... or a backup playing bad?

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    True. How do you think Parker got 12 dimes last game? He was setting up both LMA and Green.

    Patty plays better alongside Kawhi.

    Both aren't worth a as scorers who can relieve pressure, though. I'm sick of both them under-performing. No favorite either way.
    LMA also went off today. Had nothing to do with Tony passing him the ball. All LMA.

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    have you seen parker's? if you don't think patty is worth $3 million, you surely don't think parker is worth $14?

    one is a bigger issue than the other. what's worse: a starting pg playing bad... or a backup playing bad?
    I basically implied Parker isn't worth a pot to piss in.

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    LMA also went off today. Had nothing to do with Tony passing him the ball. All LMA.
    Parker being able to run a decent pick-and-roll and his probing ability makes things easier for LMA, while Patty's shooting ability spaces the floor, giving more room for Kawhi to work with.

    If they could just both manage 45-50% shooting, we wouldn't be having this discussion. I have no idea what their problems are.

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    Parker is more of a problem than Patty. , even Barkley commented on how bad PARKER has been playing.

    We are talking so much about Patty, because he's being required to play so much more to cover for Parker. Patty's a back up PG. He is good as a BACK UP point guard. Our main problem...is our STARTING pg.

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    Parker being able to run a decent pick-and-roll and his probing ability makes things easier for LMA, while Patty's shooting ability spaces the floor, giving more room for Kawhi to work with.

    If they could just both manage 45-50% shooting, we wouldn't be having this discussion. I have no idea what their problems are.
    Except anyone that passed the ball to LMA should have gotten an assist.

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    Except anyone that passed the ball to LMA should have gotten an assist.
    Parker was setting up LMA with a lot of open jumpers in game 1 off the pick and roll and probing.

    Check the lineups for the season. Patty doesn't play as well in LMA lineups as Parker does, but Patty excels alongside Leonard.

    I think they both are doing their jobs well running the offense when they're in. They just can't score for whatever in' reason.

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    Parker was setting up LMA with a lot of open jumpers in game 1 off the pick and roll and probing.

    Check the lineups for the season. Patty doesn't play as well in LMA lineups as Parker does, but Patty excels alongside Leonard.

    I think they both are doing their jobs well running the offense when they're in. They just can't score for whatever in' reason.
    Check this game though.

    If one PG got injured between Porker and Patty. Which on do you choose to keep healthy? Hypothetical.

    Don't answer it either. We both know the answer.

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    Mills has been atrocious in the playoffs, tbh..Spurs don't have a starter-level PG, which is suicide in today's NBA..
    Manu/Danny/Kawhi/LMA/Tim is best lineup against OKC. (Patty is useless unless he's hitting shots)

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    Manu/Danny/Kawhi/LMA/Tim is best lineup against OKC. (Patty is useless unless he's hitting shots)
    Should have gone with that on crunch time. Maybe even Boris for Tim.

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    Parker is more of a problem than Patty. , even Barkley commented on how bad PARKER has been playing.

    We are talking so much about Patty, because he's being required to play so much more to cover for Parker. Patty's a back up PG. He is good as a BACK UP point guard. Our main problem...is our STARTING pg.
    Patty can play against OKC's backups but he can't be on the floor in the 4th quarter when he's throwing up bricks.

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    Patty can play against OKC's backups but he can't be on the floor in the 4th quarter when he's throwing up bricks.
    You think Patty was only playing vs backups?

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    Manu/Danny/Kawhi/LMA/Tim is best lineup against OKC. (Patty is useless unless he's hitting shots)
    I was hoping we would see it again after he used it to beat Memphis, but no sign of it since..maybe he's saying it for GS, but it's not a given that the Spurs will get there

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    Check this game though.

    If one PG got injured between Porker and Patty. Which on do you choose to keep healthy? Hypothetical.

    Don't answer it either. We both know the answer.
    Get off Patty's nuts, man. He is a PG that can't run a ing offense, plays no defense and needs a 37 year to set the table for him. He's been good in his time here, but the front-office made a huge mistake picking him over Joseph.


    Parker is what he is at this point and unfortunately the team will stick with him based on a bunch of reasons (loyalty, salary and past accomplishments). He shouldn't be the starter past this season, but Mills sure as ain't the answer and needs to go. Regardless of how this season plays out the Spurs need to find Parker's eventual successor in the next draft.

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    Get off Patty's nuts, man. He is a PG that can't run a ing offense, plays no defense and needs a 37 year to set the table for him. He's been good in his time here, but the front-office made a huge mistake picking him over Joseph.


    Parker is what he is at this point and unfortunately the team will stick with him based on a bunch of reasons (loyalty, salary and past accomplishments). He shouldn't be the starter past this season, but Mills sure as ain't the answer and needs to go. Regardless of how this season plays out the Spurs need to find Parker's eventual successor in the next draft.
    And yet Patty is a net positive every ing game.

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    Should have gone with that on crunch time. Maybe even Boris for Tim.
    Diaw is allergic to rebounds & Tim did a good job keeping Adams off the offensive boards in the 4th quarter. (Can't put LMA on Adams since he needs to conserve energy for offense)

    Diaw was key against OKC in 2014 when Durant played PF but Donvan has always had two legit bigs on the floor including either Adams or Kanter or BOTH. Essentially, either Tim or Boban have to be on the floor when Diaw or West are on the floor since they can only block out Ibaka.

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    I was hoping we would see it again after he used it to beat Memphis, but no sign of it since..maybe he's saying it for GS, but it's not a given that the Spurs will get there
    Actually, he tends to use it on the road since he has a short fuse when players ing up in hostile environments.

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    Check this game though.

    If one PG got injured between Porker and Patty. Which on do you choose to keep healthy? Hypothetical.

    Don't answer it either. We both know the answer.
    Parker, because he can run more facets of the offense than Patty. Patty is a very specialized player. More a 2 guard masquerading as a PG.

    Parker has not been a detriment this series insofar as heroballing and dribble-dribble-dribble. He's doing what you guys wanted him to do all season. Defer and pick his spots. He just can't hit the few looks he's getting, which is killing us. Same with Patty. Same with Green. The backcourt scoring is in shambles. And I hope Poop pulls his head out of ass before it's too late and plays Manu more at the point with the starters.

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    You think Patty was only playing vs backups?
    The problem was that he wasn't...

    The Spurs made their run in the 3rd when WB got subbed out & Patty checked in but then he wet the bed in the 4th quarter along w/ the other scrubs.

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    Parker, because he can run more facets of the offense than Patty. Patty is a very specialized player. More a 2 guard masquerading as a PG.

    Parker has not been a detriment this series insofar as heroballing and dribble-dribble-dribble. He's doing what you guys wanted him to do all season. Defer and pick his spots. He just can't hit the few looks he's getting, which is killing us. Same with Patty. Same with Green. The backcourt scoring is in shambles. And I hope Poop pulls his head out of ass before it's too late and plays Manu more at the point with the starters.
    Wrong answer.

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