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Stupid judge...
Edit: This is an ACLU FOI filing... in there further attempts to portray the American Soldier as the bad guys.
Judge Orders Release of Abu Ghraib Photos By LARRY NEUMEISTER, Associated Press Writer
9 minutes ago (Thursday Sept. 29)
Yahoo NewsNEW YORK - Saying the United States "does not surrender to blackmail," a judge ruled Thursday that pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.
U.S. District Judge Alvin K. erstein ordered the release of certain pictures in a 50-page decision that said terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan have proven they "do not need pretexts for their barbarism."
The ACLU has sought the release of 87 photographs and four videotapes taken at the prison as part of an October 2003 lawsuit demanding information on the treatment of detainees in U.S. custody and the transfer of prisoners to countries known to use torture. The ACLU contends that prisoner abuse is systemic.
The judge said: "Our nation does not surrender to blackmail, and fear of blackmail is not a legally sufficient argument to prevent us from performing a statutory command. Indeed, the freedoms that we champion are as important to our success in Iraq and Afghanistan as the guns and missiles with which our troops are armed."
Release of the photos "could damage America's image"? No! The conduct depicted in the photos has damaged America's image.
I leave you with a great quote by Judge erstein during his ruling in this case:
The complete ruling can be read: Here"As President Bush said, we fight to spread freedom so the freedoms of Americans will be made more secure. It is in compliance with these principles, enunciated by both the President and the highest court in the land, that I order the government to produce the Darby photographs that I have determined are responsive and appropriately redacted."
Stupid judge...
Edit: This is an ACLU FOI filing... in there further attempts to portray the American Soldier as the bad guys.
Last edited by Vashner; 09-29-2005 at 01:06 PM.
Digital cameras + internet in the hands of soldiers sure can make for some entertaining pictures.
washingtonpost.com
Army Investigating Web Postings of Grisly War Photos
By Josh White
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, September 29, 2005; A17
U.S. Army officials are looking into allegations that soldiers have been trading gruesome digital pictures of war victims in Iraq and Afghanistan for access to an amateur pornography Web site, but officials said yesterday that there is insufficient evidence to pursue criminal charges.
The allegations surfaced last week, when the East Bay Express, a weekly newspaper in the San Francisco Bay area, published a story about graphic photographs that appeared on one section of the Web site. The photographs, which show the bodies of several people killed in shootings, explosions, or fires, include crude captions, some of which mock the dead.
Pentagon and Army officials yesterday issued strong statements condemning the taking and posting of such photographs, but said there is little evidence to authenticate them and few ways to pursue a criminal investigation. While some of the photos appear to show U.S. soldiers in uniform near mutilated bodies, it is unclear where or when the pictures were taken.
The Web site's creator said yesterday that about 30,000 members of the military are registered on his site, several thousand of whom have sent him photographs or comments from their official military Web addresses. Many of the photographs depict life in Iraq, while only a few are extremely graphic, he said.
"It's an uncensored view of the war, from their perspective," said Chris Wilson, 27, of Florida, who began accepting the photographs from soldiers overseas as payment for access to pornography on his Web site. "It's a place where the soldiers can express themselves without being filtered by the Bush administration," he added.
Those who submit photos of war casualties could be breaking military rules against "unbecoming" conduct and also could be in violation of government regulations regarding use of the Internet. Soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan have access to the Internet, largely at Internet cafes, and many have digital cameras.
Paul Boyce, an Army spokesman, said investigators have been examining the photos for clues to their origin, adding that commanders in the field are emphasizing that taking and posting such photos is unacceptable.
"If accurate, these are gruesome depictions of deceased people in Iraq, and that violates the standards of our values, training and procedures that we ask military personnel to observe and obey," Boyce said. "It is very difficult to establish they are in fact being submitted by soldiers, where they were taken, who they were taken by, and the cir stances surrounding them."
The Council on American-Islamic Relations has decried the photographs and called for a Pentagon investigation. An official said the images could inflame insurgents and give other nations the mistaken impression that many Americans are gloating over casualties of the Iraq war.
"What we're most concerned about is the safety of our own soldiers," said Arsalan Iftikhar, CAIR's legal director. "It only tarnishes our image even further and serves as fodder for the insurgents and terrorists."
Wilson, who said he supports the soldiers and the war, said users must search out the corpse photos, which are not displayed prominently on the site.
© 2005 The Washington Post Company
Yes! Awesome, I can't WAIT to see these!!
Woohoo!! Party at my place!
Spurm, you're so "unbecoming".
What about the poor victims in this? Shouldn't their rights to privacy trump our rights to see them in demeaning pictures? We already know what happened. We've already seen enough to turn our stomachs. Supposedly, these other photos depict things like forced sodomy. Put yourself in the mind of the guy who was subjected to that. Now he's got to be stripped naked and raped all over again in front of the whole world. And some of you support the publication of these things? Makes me sick.
I don't get it.
The faces are blurred.
If you're looking for pictures of guys getting ed in the ass, there's plenty going around on the internet. Unless it's the *forced* part that you're into....I'll bet there are plenty of those to be found, too.
I swear...it never ceases to amaze me what people feel they are en led to.
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