So it shouldn't matter what they wear before they "clock in". They are employees during the 48 minutes on the court.
I know this is a side topic, but I've heard a lot of celebrities say they don't mind signing autographs for fans, but they don't like to do it for autograph hounds who are just going to turn around and sell it. I'm not sure why this is a big deal, but thought I'd add it to the mix.
I can't remember who posted it in here already, but I liked the perspective of Stern outlining a list of things not to be worn instead of insisting on everyone wearing a Sports coat.
I guess that's the point. They aren't working for the NBA team only when they are on the floor. As sited in the article ...
The point being that when they are representing the team .. be it in media sessions, community events, etc .. that they are subject to whatever rules the NBA has in force .. including a dress code.
I don't know why this is so controversial to people. The article says it's part of the new CBA -- so the players already agreed to it (as many people have mentioned here). Though it appears the specific details aren't outlined yet. So whatever happens, the players have already decided it's okay by them.
I don't think that the sport coat thing is written in stone. The article says that Stern "expects" the new dress code to include sportcoats and no jeans. I don't think it's completely detailed out yet.
I am sure it will be fine.
I only object to the no jeans rule cause Rasho looks really good in them. = )
This rule is a joke. Professionalism belongs on the court, you can't legislate what players do or how they look when they are on their own time. Are they going to outlaw tattoos and facial hair next?
It's no surprise that the only one who supports this is Tpark. Why do you hate America so much.
To be fair, I don't think T-park was the only supporter.
They aren't saying anything about how they dress on their own time.
I look at it this way:
These players are being paid millions of dollars to PLAY a game. They have made their profession by playing the same game I'd play to blow off steam AFTER work, AS THEIR WORK. Most high-paying jobs require a suit and tie anyway, and their employees sit in a cubicle all day pushing papers, talking to irrational customers on the phone, or kissing the ass of a higher possition. And as far as bad uniforms go, ask almost any teenager about his summer job and I'm sure you will have a fantastic minimum-wage job for comparrison.
If Stern wants to do this, fine. I am all for it. Please note that I DO NOT think there is reason to implement such a code, but there is certainly no leverage on the players' side with which to argue it.
Why support something if you feel it serves no purposes?
I'm not being argumentative... just curious.
So you're saying they want them to wear suits on the court? When they aren't playing the game or practicing they are on their own time. Who gives a what they wear in the tunnel arriving to the game or in the lockeroom.They aren't saying anything about how they dress on their own time.
Does the article say it's about what they wear when they are arriving to games?
From what I know, the dress code is about what they will wear on the bench when they are on the inactive list, what they will wear when doing publicity events, etc. I don't see anything about how they need to dress on the way driving to the game and entering the tunnel.
By the way, I looked through the CBA briefly and didn't find anything about the dress code. Does anyone know if it's actually in the CBA and if so, in what Article #?
What the .. this is designed to punish Tim Duncan
He loves to relax in casual clothes..
Sterned!!
We need term limits on pro sports commisioners... they stay too long and get
too much corrupted power...
See and I thought they had to wear suits for post game interviews.
Maybe I misread.
It seemed like a pain for the guys to have to get all dressed up to give an hour's worth of interviews and then go home.
The article doesn't clearly state what events/times the dress codes is for (post practice interview, pre/post game interview, inactive bench, publicity/community events).
That's why I wanted to see the specifics written somewhere.
I am very interested too.
You'll have to tell us how the boys dress for Media Day, Kori.
I don't support it (i.e. I think there is no valid reason behind it), but I do believe he has every right to impliment the rule without arguement or complaint.Why support something if you feel it serves no purposes?
I'm not being argumentative... just curious.
And don't worry about being argumentative. That's what makes discussion like this interesting
WRONG.
They're being paid millions to make even MORE millions for a few even RICHER guys (owners, networks, and advertisers). The fact that they can do this playing basketball is just incidental.
And how come there's no dress code for the Mark Cubans of the league?
I don't support it (i.e. I think there is no valid reason behind it), but I do believe he has every right to impliment the rule without arguement or complaint.
And don't worry about being argumentative. That's what makes discussion like this interesting
I gotcha now!
Posted on Fri, Sep. 30, 2005
NBA said to be on verge of formalizing dress code
By PHIL JASNER
[email protected]
If the NBA is focused on making sure the quality and style of play is perceived as blue-collar, there is now also a movement that could mean the players - at least in certain instances - might also have to wear them.
The specifics of a dress code for, among other instances, injured or inactive players in street clothes on the bench during games, are still being formulated. Details have yet to be distributed to the 30 teams.
But commissioner David Stern told the Boston Globe Wednesday night that he expects the code to include sport coats and collared shirts, and exclude blue jeans. Stern was among the honorees at a National Braille Press event, and when asked about casual dress by the players, said, "Well, the job description has changed."
Stern said, "We're working on a job description."
Billy King, the 76ers' president and general manager, said yesterday, "There will be some new policy. When it comes down, we'll implement it."
Dan Wasserman, the director of communications for the National Basketball Players Association (NBPA), said, "We've agreed to discuss adopting some general guidelines for a dress code. As far as the specifics of what the league is proposing, we are actively seeking player input."
Stern said "some teams have more strict dress codes" than what the league is planning. King said the Sixers do not have a dress code, but recalled that, in the playoffs in recent seasons, players have been asked to wear sport jackets.
In an e-mail message, Tim Frank, the league's vice president of basketball communications, responding to a request yesterday to speak with Stern or deputy commissioner Russ Granik, said that "no one would be made available'' to comment because the details have not been finalized.
Stern told the Globe, in part, "Sometimes I worry that our players' intensity can be misconstrued and their effort can be misconstrued. They are the most intense, the most dedicated. I think the younger base of our fans understands that, but perhaps the mid-to-older aren't quite as attuned to it. We'd like to use our convening power to have people focus on this game and our great players, who they are and how they play, rather than their variance from some norm... Being neatly attired in a certain way, that's going to be our norm.''
Stern pointed out that referees dress a certain way when they enter league buildings, and that coaches do the same thing when they come on the court.
"We decided it was time [for the players],'' Stern said.
The new collective bargaining agreement, finalized in July, includes several new initiatives, including increasing the players' required minimum number of community-relations appearances from 10 to 12, and having them attend pregame autograph sessions and participate in pregame giveaways of T-shirts, etc.
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Posted 9/30/2005 12:36 AM Updated 9/30/2005 6:22 PM
NBA commissioner Stern wants players 'neatly attired'
From staff and wire reports
NBA Commissioner David Stern is concerned about the league's image and wants a dress code for players.
Stern told The Boston Globe for Thursday's editions that the league is working on a "job description" for players that will include "being neatly attired in a certain way." Players such as Tim Duncan prefer to dress casually, even on the bench.
The Indiana Pacers-Detroit Pistons brawl in November was a black eye for the league, and part of the new collective bargaining agreement is to improve the players' accessibility and professionalism.
NBA spokesman Tim Frank said details haven't been set.
Chicago Bulls forward Antonio Davis, the players union president, said the union would not be opposed to a dress code, depending to what extent it goes.
"I don't think it's fair for them to tell you exactly how to dress," Davis said. "You can't say no jeans. I've seen businessmen in jeans, a sports coat and nice shirt, and you say that's classy."
Davis thinks some younger players need direction and said, "If you watch a game and you see (injured) guys on the bench, you want to see professionalism."
I could just never understand the mentality of "dressing" professionally. As long as you get your work done, and done well, I don't care that you did it in a G-string. But then, people always judge other's abilities based on appearance, what a lovely discrimination free society we live in.
In NBA if they go away the Sterns would not have 1/1000 money they are earning.
So?
Give me a reason why the players who is giving the leauge the money must wear what they say? It is not a normal company like you try to persuade.
I don't get the tie thing anymore. I use to wear ties all the time, but now, when I actually put one on, I don't get it, I don't get the fashion. I go for the slacks, nice casual dress shirt now without a jacket. It seems pretty common to.
I could never understand why car sales people wear ties and suits either. Its to ing hot. Why would I want a sweaty mofo trying to sit in a car with me?
Get with the times.
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