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hahaha Obstucted
you are a funny guy
I know what this is all about.
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The union agreed to it. Period. I'm really tired of having to try to explain this to you. You obviously aren't going to be made to agree with me. If the players don't like it, they can quit. If all of them don't like it they can quit, and there will be no more NBA, and then you can be happy because the poor NBA players are emancipated from Massa Stern and his whip.
hahaha Obstucted
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I know what this is all about.
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Thank you for finally laughing before this starts sounding like a serious debate. Unfortunately you are wrong. It's about money. Corporate white America spends money on the NBA. The idea to have players wear suits is a smart business move. The union understands this as much as the league office, which is why most of the complaints are going to come from people that can't afford to buy tickets to an NBA game.hahaha Obstucted
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You know - but everybody have got a right to go to the NBA games.
The suits it's just too much.
Restrict some band or so. But suits?
and I think that they have to wear them near the arena in arena in front off cameras in in post game conference.
I want to see the indyviduality in players. Some of them are wearing suits some of tyhem not.
Imagine Jordan in the first his pro seasons in a suite. I remember him wearing a fur...
The funny thing would be seeing Rodman in suit
Still waiting for an answer on this one.
Though the details still aren't laid out, here's what they are considering ...
Iverson to fight NBA's off-court dress code
By PHIL JASNER
http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/sports/12811765.htm
HE CAME INTO the NBA at 21, and couldn't fathom why people almost immediately wanted him to act, speak and dress as if he were 30. He said so even then, and some people reacted as if he were somehow being defiant or belligerent.
Yesterday, he sat at the podium for his 10th 76ers media day as the team's elder statesman and talked openly about the ways in which he had changed and grown, being more accepting, more understanding of situations, even gaining a grasp on the job and responsibility of the media.
But Allen Iverson, at 30, remains the same in one wonderful way. When he has something to say, he doesn't hold back. When he believes in a cause, he holds his ground. Even this time, when he had promised people within the organization that he wouldn't bring it up, that he would save it for another day, he couldn't help himself.
This was about the dress code that the league will be ins uting this season. This was about rules that will stipulate wearing sports jackets and slacks to and from games, to and from charter flights, at team-related public appearances. And he wasn't happy.
"I look back on a lot of the mistakes I made, and I look back at just being young, just not knowing," Iverson said on the eve of training camp in Durham, N.C. "A lot of times I just reacted instead of thinking, not knowing, but thinking you know everything. I think that's what comes with maturity; I pray every day to become a better person, then a better basketball player.
"[But] one way I haven't changed is my aggressiveness on the court, and when I feel a certain way about something I still stick to it when I think I'm right. I didn't change the way I dress like they're trying to make me do. I feel that is who I am; I dress to make myself comfortable. I really do have a problem with it. It's not fair."
Iverson was, is, will be hip-hop. He's not a mainstream, boardroom-style dresser. He has done it on occasion, as in the playoffs, but it is not in his makeup. It is hardly his style.
The players don't yet have all of the specifics, but they know there will be a code, enforced via fines, etc. Some of the information came via Sixers guard Kevin Ollie, a returning player representative. Ollie prides himself on being jacket-and-tie stylish; he respects other players' rights to dress in a style that suits them.
"Hopefully, we can come to a happy medium, some type of compromise," Ollie said. "The idea should be for everybody to be respectful and neat."
Still, the rules - primarily described as business casual - will be there.
"Just because you put a guy in a tuxedo, it doesn't mean he's a good guy," Iverson said. "It sends a bad message to kids. If you don't have a suit on when you go to school, is the teacher going to think you're a bad kid? I never wore a suit going in any park I ever went to when I was coming up. I just came from Japan, where I saw thousands of kids; all of them dressed like me, from the biggest guy to the smallest.
"It's just not right. It's something I'll fight for. I promised I wouldn't get up here and try to destroy anybody trying to make that [rule], but it's not right."
There already are other changes in Iverson's 10th season, and he is ready for all of the others, from playing for a new coach - and old friend - Maurice Cheeks to a training camp with teammate Chris Webber to (shudder) the possibility of a few less minutes per game.
"I want to play the whole game, that's no secret, everybody knows that," Iverson said. "Me doing that, that's probably impossible. I'm so far gone mentally and in my career, it's one of those whatever-it-takes things to get that gold ball. I'm 10 years in, and it hasn't happened yet... Whatever [Cheeks] needs me to do, I'm all for it. If he wants to cut my minutes down, I'd have a problem with it, but it'll just go down like that."
He looks back on his time here in rapt fascination, and looks ahead with the eagerness and freshness of, well, a 21-year-old.
"I gave a lot to this city, I've done a lot for this organization," he said. "I fought my whole career here. I became a man here. Coming in from 20, 21 with my talents, everybody expected me to be some 30-year-old man like I am now, and be at the stage I am now. It wasn't possible [then]. I wasn't used to the attention, I wasn't used to the money, I wasn't used to being the main focus on an NBA team. I had a lot of learning to do; I had a lot of growing up to do. A lot of times, I learned the hard way.
"I went through here, from you guys [reporters], to coaching situations, even times with the fans. I really feel I'm a man [now]. Being here in Philadelphia helped me become just that. I wouldn't trade it for the world. I took my lumps, but I had some great times here. I even became friends with some of you all that I thought weren't my friends. I had to sit back and really understand this is your job. I play basketball; that's your job. I don't look at you any more as just devils coming straight at me. I look at it as, you all have bosses, you all have jobs. When you don't have your notebooks and pens, then I'll judge you off of that."
This was Allen Iverson, of all things, elder statesman.
"I never thought the day would come when I'd be the old head on the team," he said. "I've got a guy on the team [18-year-old Louis Williams] who, when I came into the league, was like 8 years old, or something like that."
And he also said something that, 10 years ago, you thought you'd never hear.
"I'm glad I'm still here," Allen Iverson said.
If you had a vBookie about which player would protest the dress code and listed all 450 or so NBA players everyone would have guessed Iverson.
It would be interesting to hear the take of an NBA player in favor ( or at least not opposed) to the new dress code.
Whups. I was going to post that he'd probably just do it and keep his mouth shut. Boy was I being optimistic. Bottom line, you can't tell spoiled millionaire punks what to do.
Maybe you shouldn't tell spoiled millionaire punks to do something stupid like wear khakis if they don't want to.
Good for Iverson.
You shouldn't tell them to do anything they don't want to do, because they won't do it. That's the definition of a spoiled millionaire punk.
If Tim Duncan protests the dress code, would he be a punk too?
that. Maybe the owners and players who agreed to this are spoiled millionaire elitists. Maybe everyone who thinks players should wear suits everywhere is an elitist. Or maybe they're racist.
OR... Maybe Iverson just doesn't think it's right for the Players to cave in to stereotypes.
Man, it's amazing how the clothing Nazis have nothing to say about Mark Cuban.
Not that amazing.
I don't hear much talk about David Wells or Johnny Damon either.
On this issue, I think they'll compromise on the specifics. The players association obviously agreed to there being a dress code already.
Again, I think the "sports coat and slacks" part might be thrown out and exchanged for button down shirts and no jeans.
He sure would be.
I appreciate the fact that Iverson ( and I'm sure many other players) have their own style and opinions.
But Iverson would do well to understand that when it comes to the NBA,like it or not, he is in Stern's playground.
So long as the NBA dress code is reasonable ( not super dressy) and restricted to game time functions, I don't see a problem.
Iverson is not getting picked on. A lot of people have to dressed up every day to go do jobs that are a lot less fun.
The weird part of the article to me is that it mentioned the dress code "to and from charter flights". Why would they care what they wore during travel? I would think they could wear bunny pajamas and no one should care.
basketball is fun
but I doubt they like the travel
how many would like traverling for 9 months out of the year for 15 years?
I know people who travel for aliving and do not like it. ofcourse these players get paid more then those but still
Um, if I found out someone was wearing bunny pajamas on a charter flight, I would be very surprised.
Well, anyway now that Stevie and Cuttino are no longer teammates.
I think it is because they get shown on the news.
Sometimes WOAI shows the guys on their way to board the plane or getting off of it at home.
Yeah I know why it is. I just think that would be ridiculous. If you were watching the news, why would you care what they were wearing on the way to the plane?
Steve found a new friend.
I think they should be allowed to wear just boxers if they wanted to on the plane
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