Is Kawhi Leonard better than LeBron James?

[z0sa]

LeBron.

[K...]

Hmm a few thoughts. Lets go series by series and ask who would be better leb or kaw?

Griz-irrelevant
OKC....Kawhi for defense. Lebron doesn't do anything against this team thats special. He could punish OKC for sure and he'd absolutely destroy durant but the option to mute durant or slow westbrook with kawhi is too valuable

CLippers (at full strength)..Lebron....100%. No real SF to defend, and lebron would not get punked by mat barnes in a gm7

GS- KAwhi....this is a toss up, but i don't see lebron being able to out shoot a healthy curry. Maybe if he drove hard and fouled out the GS defenders we could slow the pace and match efficiency. But like OKC kahwi can check curry although that isn't his job. This one is hard.

[Gagnrath]

Is a GM you have to take Leonard to be on your team under contract; He is still ascendant and James has started his downswing. As is said earlier.



As for the rest. Jimbo is a socially maladjusted toll and attention whoring asshole, which is fine they are entertaining on internet forums when properly moderated. (Not that spurstalk has moderators anymore).

As for weather or not Leonard is autistic. I seriously doubt it. First autism is a wide ranging spectrum of what appear to be related mental disorders and handicaps. They are associated with how a brain interprets and deals with sensory stimulus and processing. Because of a sensitivity to stimulation most people with an autism spectrum disorder try to avoid loud rapidly changing environments and can be overwhelming to them. Last I checked the court in an NBA arena is exactly what most autistic people try to avoid. Because interpersonal communication is full of different cues and a tendency to distraction by nearly anything else going on many autism affected people do poorly socially.

As for Jimbos other comments, while autism probably does have genetic links as it seems to run in families no specific individual markers have been found to date, let alone 20+ years ago. The idea of an en uteri test and ending a pregnancy for possible autism is fairly far in the future if at all. Next Autism is not mental re ation; Most people who are affected with an autism spectrum disorder are of normal intelligence. Some research seems to show that many mild forms of autism are basically just compensated for by intelligence, with the disorder coming off as eccentricity, distractedness, or aloofness. More severe forms tend to overwhelm the sufferer and can be treated with a controlled environment and therapy. Once again a person who has greater intelligence and or will is more likely to be responsive to therapy. But please by all means jimbo continue to be bigoted and ignorant.

[RD2191]

LeBron is a walking finals ticket

Kawhi still needs to prove he can lead a team like LeBron has already proven (for more than part of a season with help, or one game with help). LeBron is and always has been Cleveland all by himself. Sadly on the Heat super team, many times he was that whole team as well.

Lol. Leading teams to the finals out east isn't saying much. I'm sure Kawhi could easily take a team to the finals out east. People underestimate how ty the east has been for most of lbjs career. This was playing teams with losing records in the semis.

[Sean Cagney]

Id take Kawhi.

Right now at his age and ceiling you bet, if Lebron was younger though and I am starting a team that would be tough. Lebron is older now and is slowly declining with his game, so right now I would definitely take Kawhi Leonard on the team.

[jimbo]

[jimbo]

Hmm a few thoughts. Lets go series by series and ask who would be better leb or kaw?

Griz-irrelevant
OKC....Kawhi for defense. Lebron doesn't do anything against this team thats special. He could punish OKC for sure and he'd absolutely destroy durant but the option to mute durant or slow westbrook with kawhi is too valuable

CLippers (at full strength)..Lebron....100%. No real SF to defend, and lebron would not get punked by mat barnes in a gm7

GS- KAwhi....this is a toss up, but i don't see lebron being able to out shoot a healthy curry. Maybe if he drove hard and fouled out the GS defenders we could slow the pace and match efficiency. But like OKC kahwi can check curry although that isn't his job. This one is hard.

Disagree. Durant becomes a mental midget when faced against Lebron. Actually I'm pretty sure he played pretty well in the 2012 finals, but for whatever reason the Thunder never beat whatever team Lebron is on.

[Uriel]

James is gaining traction on Leonard in the poll. It's nearly dead even now.

[phxspurfan]

Lol. Leading teams to the finals out east isn't saying much. I'm sure Kawhi could easily take a team to the finals out east. People underestimate how ty the east has been for most of lbjs career. This was playing teams with losing records in the semis.

Pistons and Celtics were pretty good back then

[spursistan]

I love Kawhi, but that's why he isn't yet better than Lebron...that thing is called consistency..

Lebron has been doing for near a decade, and still..the night-in night-out 24/7/3 is something that's still beyond Kawhi reach..Hope, he gets there soon..

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[EVAY]

Uff this is escalating quickly.

Anyway, No. Lebron is a better individual player than Kawhi. I'm not even sure the question is legit.

It is very possible he will be when both careers are over.
Lebron is a playmaker and can carry his team consistently, even if he needs the usual star treatment from the refs.
Even if he's kind of a bad shooter.

Kawhi still needs some protection from the Spurs system and can't take over games consistently. He can't impose his will like Lebron can.

I don't like Lebron though.

So in any case, I'd take Kawhi. But this thread is not about that.
It's about who the better player is and is still Lebron.

That is the fair objective position. But I would still prefer Kawhi because he doesn't have to get over himself. LeBron has never done that.

[NameLess Scrub]

That is the fair objective position. But I would still prefer Kawhi because he doesn't have to get over himself. LeBron has never done that.

Agree

[kobyz]

This forum will never learn how to stay humble and not bring even more bad karma...

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Bahahaha

[jimbo]

Wait...LeBron?


Tell me how he looked in 2011 Finals?

I need superstars friends to win a ship!!






Who? Kawhi? Keep calling Spurs best player autistic...Of course, you're a true Spurs fan

[TheGreatYacht]

Close this ing thread man. Of course not.

[spursistan]

Yeah, let's cut the crap ...regular season means ..he has yet to have consecutive dominant series against elite team from tip to last buzzer..Need to work more on his game (dribble drive/handles/court vision) and PATFO will have to provide him more help on the perimeter..

[tholdren]

Thread = 0/10000000000000000

[SuperCam]

king james s on the thunder and durbeta each year while kiwi is getting bent over

9-23 and -12 in an elimination game smh, this got ass kawhiso garbage is good for a 1st or 2nd round exit each year

[LongtimeSpursFan]

This thread. Comparing these two players is not even close. I love Kawhi and dislike LeBron but LeBron has taken his team to 6 straight NBA Finals appearances.

[tholdren]

no

[Hoops Czar]

Lol. Leading teams to the finals out east isn't saying much. I'm sure Kawhi could easily take a team to the finals out east. People underestimate how ty the east has been for most of lbjs career. This was playing teams with losing records in the semis.

Lebron has taken lottery teams to the NBA Finals while Leonard has yet to lead a 55+ win team with quadruple the talent past the second round. And the only team the Spurs managed to beat in the playoffs with Kiwi as the #1 option was the woeful Grizzlies, who might in fact go down as the worst playoff team in NBA history.

[Hoops Czar]

James is gaining traction on Leonard in the poll. It's nearly dead even now.

You mean Leonard was actually leading the poll?

>>>>>>>>

[tholdren]

This thread. Comparing these two players is not even close. I love Kawhi and dislike LeBron but LeBron has taken his team to 6 straight NBA Finals appearances.

KL - missed ft cost 2013
KL - gifted 2014 fmvp

LBJ - mom doinked by ugliest dude in nba.