Official 2016 Spurs Offseason Thread

[Robz4000]

Dude, that is ridiculous. SA *can* still be good. GS, while stacked, can possibly have some holes as well. You don't punt a season (which is impossible to do with KL/LMA/DG anyways ) because there is a great team.

They'll be the third best team, but it'll be a distant third with a remote chance of winning (only due to injury chances which will be much higher for their own team). In that scenario it'd be better to start planning for the future and get the reloading process started sooner.

[HarlemHeat37]

GSW trying to guard Pau is going to be cruel.

I don't think they'll be worried about that..

[NASpurs]

next year, it's going to be an empty space

[Joseph Kony]

I agree that you play the games and see what happens, but second in the west?

Who is better? The Clippers?

[Chinook]

People are making a little too much out of GS not having a center right now.

They'll get bodies. they might get Willie Reed. , they might get David West.

They're not going to have any issues getting serviceable play from somewhere, I have no doubt.

Acting as if going from the most impactful defensive player in the league to a "body" isn't a big deal is what doesn't make sense.

[TimDunkem]

The West is now very ordinary after the projected top 3(GS, SA, LAC), tbh..

Between the Big 2, Porker, 40 year old Manu, Icy-Hot, and Fathead, I don't like our chances at all. I hope you're right though.

[Budkin]

kinda feel 'sorry' for aldridge, he's stuck with kawhi leonard and tony parker

he's probably regretting his decision right now

I'm sure he'd be much happier with the Suns.

[SPURt]

Why all the panic? This is what happened when Lebron went to Miami. The Mavs and a Spurs team with no clear superstar/all star beat that team. Relax. The Warriors are guaranteed 4 great players but the other 4 to 6 are going to matter a whole bunch too

[AFBlue]

@ the tank movement

Spurs have the best two-way player in the NBA and a perennial all-star in his second season with the team. They have Pop and a deep bench full of players with different skills.

[GSH]

Surprised you feel that way. If Pau signs a 1+1, no real harm and SA still can compete this year. A SL of: TP/DG/KL/LMA/Pau is better than last year (especially if DG regains form) and can still work on the bench and bring in some youth.

They aren't favorites, but GS still has holes to fill (whose there starting C? Does their bench become less reliable? Does KD/Curry hold up if bench can't spell them as much?).

GS is stacked, but nothing is given at all.

I know nothing is given - that's why they play the games. GSW still has to put the pieces together, and sometimes that's a lot harder than expected. The sad truth is that they will probably be as good as advertised. But, no, it's not a given.

More than anything, I'm doubtful about Tony's declining agility and ability to keep the offense moving against the better/younger teams in the league. That's why I think they're a 50 win team, give or take. It's got nothing to do with GS. Losing Tim is a HUGE adjustment, no matter how people try to shrug it off. The Spurs are weak in the middle, and weak at the point.

To be more than that, IMO, Tony would have to have an Indian Summer season. Kyle and Boban would have to have improved significantly this offseason. Danny would have to keep his 3P stroke from the playoffs, and Boris would have to get barred from Starbucks. That's a lot of "ifs". But think how great it will feel if they all step up?

As for Pau getting more than one year - I'm a big believer in the Sun Tzu idea of concentrating all your assets on a single point of attack. I don't want him choking up a huge chunk of cap next offseason. The Spurs need to be totally free to pick up one big player, and at least one big role-player. This offseason makes it pretty clear that they have to be able to jump in with a max offer right away, to show that big player that they are serious. Opinions are worth what you pay for them, but that's mine.

[Budkin]

you all, I'm gonna cry if timmy retires.

Me too. One more year please!

[LakerHater]

[sasaint]

Unless Pau signs for a steep discount, that would be a huge mistake IMO. Especially if they give him more than 1 year. Bring in some guys to develop, and who will be part of the core going forward.

Yes. This is what I have been calling a mini-tank. Bite the bullet and finally get some youth - not just one young guy la la Kawhi. Let the young guys play their butts off and get your cap space for next off-season. We could still pick up a piece or two from the Blazers if they sign Pau.

But consider: Tim retires, Manu wants too much, so we let him walk... Would the possibility of a TP trade imrove... er, increase?

[DPG21920]

Acting as if going from the most impactful defensive player in the league to a "body" isn't a big deal is what doesn't make sense.

Agreed. Plus their bench taking somewhat of a hit (although they don't need much of a bench probably.)

[siraulo23]

I'm sure he'd be much happier with the Suns.

He coulda re-signed with Portland

[objective]

I agree that you play the games and see what happens, but second in the west?

Why wouldn't the Spurs be second?

They were second this past season by a comfortable margin. OKC just got a lot worse and will have to adjust to losing both Durant and Ibaka.

The Clippers lost Jeff Green and Aldrich for nothing.

The Memphis big three are all coming off major injury concerns.

Portland added no one except Evan Turner at an absurd rate, he shouldn't scare anyone.

The Rockets added injury plagued non defenders.

Even if Duncan retires, how are the Spurs not number two but default?

[BillMc]

Vegas odds post Durant's decision.

[DPG21920]

They'll be the third best team, but it'll be a distant third with a remote chance of winning (only due to injury chances which will be much higher for their own team). In that scenario it'd be better to start planning for the future and get the reloading process started sooner.

Sure, but SA can't tank. You realize that right? There is not lottery pick coming even if SA doesn't sign anyone. I'm fine with SA going youth only and just taking fliers on upside guys, but your lottery pick for one year idea is impossible.

[LakerHater]

[AFBlue]

Why wouldn't the Spurs be second?

They were second this past season by a comfortable margin. OKC just got a lot worse and will have to adjust to losing both Durant and Ibaka.

The Clippers lost Jeff Green and Aldrich for nothing.

The Memphis big three are all coming off major injury concerns.

Portland added no one except Evan Turner at an absurd rate, he shouldn't scare anyone.

The Rockets added injury plagued non defenders.

Even if Duncan retires, how are the Spurs not number two but default?

Agree. Especially if Pau joins the Spurs.

[cd98]

Hope Tim retires...then unretires for the playoffs. But don't know how that works with salary cap.

[DPG21920]

I know nothing is given - that's why they play the games. GSW still has to put the pieces together, and sometimes that's a lot harder than expected. The sad truth is that they will probably be as good as advertised. But, no, it's not a given.

More than anything, I'm doubtful about Tony's declining agility and ability to keep the offense moving against the better/younger teams in the league. That's why I think they're a 50 win team, give or take. It's got nothing to do with GS. Losing Tim is a HUGE adjustment, no matter how people try to shrug it off. The Spurs are weak in the middle, and weak at the point.

To be more than that, IMO, Tony would have to have an Indian Summer season. Kyle and Boban would have to have improved significantly this offseason. Danny would have to keep his 3P stroke from the playoffs, and Boris would have to get barred from Starbucks. That's a lot of "ifs". But think how great it will feel if they all step up?

As for Pau getting more than one year - I'm a big believer in the Sun Tzu idea of concentrating all your assets on a single point of attack. I don't want him choking up a huge chunk of cap next offseason. The Spurs need to be totally free to pick up one big player, and at least one big role-player. This offseason makes it pretty clear that they have to be able to jump in with a max offer right away, to show that big player that they are serious. Opinions are worth what you pay for them, but that's mine.

For sure - SA doesn't have control either - Tim can retire. Pau can say no. Etc..Spurs have a lot of holes, but I do think, basketball wise that a SL of TP/DG/KL/DG/Pau is better than last year overall which is saying something. The bench, especially big men (guards are question marks too) is the issue.

But have to do what you can. I'm good with SA going youth, but doesn't seem like they are trying to do that. They want Pau. If he says no, people may be happy that it forces SA's hand to go youth only and focus on next year money-wise.

[Nathan89]

Can you imagine Gasol and Aldridge guarding the Warriors

murder

LMA is fine but he should be the only big out there ideally.

[ducks]

thunder had 2 bigs and were ahead 3-1

[siraulo23]

thunder had 2 bigs and were ahead 3-1

yea ibaka and adams, two of the best bigs at defending the pick and roll in the league