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    Dude, you going to hit that Rifftrax show in August? I'm totally geeking out over it.
    There's a theater a couple miles from my place simulcasting it.
    If its online, definitely. But can't see it in theaters as I'm in Ukraine this summer.

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    Has this come up yet?

    per sources, Presti discussed Westbrook deals with several different teams (inc. SAS, MIL, LAL, BOS), but no middle ground was found.

    No? I hope it stays that way.

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    Has this come up yet?

    per sources, Presti discussed Westbrook deals with several different teams (inc. SAS, MIL, LAL, BOS), but no middle ground was found.

    No? I hope it stays that way.
    So does that mean presti accepted our deal? But Westbrook didn't...

    The way I see it, Westbrook has zero incentive to accept a trade/sign an extension unless he really wants out now.

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    So does that mean presti accepted our deal? But Westbrook didn't...

    The way I see it, Westbrook has zero incentive to accept a trade/sign an extension unless he really wants out now.
    Anyone trying to get Westbrook to sign an extension is just an idiot. It's not in the cards for him, and that has nothing to do with him being a selfish player. Of course, him agreeing to sign an extension, despite how disadvantageous it is for him financially, would give him a ton of leverage in trade negotiations.

    Anyway, no, I think Presti wants Kawhi for Westbrook, which is an obvious non-starter. I doubt he'd even take LMA, though a three-team trade could probably swing enough value to get OKC interested. But then, the Spurs would balk, because the point of getting Russ would be to make a new Big Three, not to break up the top two (and more) to get a guy who's already shown he can't win a le as a top-two option.

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    Has this come up yet?

    per sources, Presti discussed Westbrook deals with several different teams (inc. SAS, MIL, LAL, BOS), but no middle ground was found.

    No? I hope it stays that way.
    I read that as saying OKC is still asking for too much and teams aren't biting. Thunder are facing ownership and fanbase unhappiness if they get little in return for losing both Durant and Westbrook.

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    A couple more tweets for clarification:

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    in exploratory discussions with SAS, w/o significant assets sources say Kawhi was the asking price = unrealistic.


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    Relaying everything I heard. All teams thus far unwilling to meet high asking price. Normal in early negotiations.


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    Holy , presti is too smart to think S.A. Trades them kawhi.

    I have to imagine this is just a feint to get Westbrook to disclose his approved teams.

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    Holy , presti is too smart to think S.A. Trades them kawhi.

    I have to imagine this is just a feint to get Westbrook to disclose his approved teams.
    Read above. Presti and the team will get pilloried if they don't appear to have tried for as much talent as possible, which they otherwise know they won't get.

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    A couple more tweets for clarification:

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    in exploratory discussions with SAS, w/o significant assets sources say Kawhi was the asking price = unrealistic.


    Adam Joseph@AdamJosephSport 42 Min.Vor 42 Minuten
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    Relaying everything I heard. All teams thus far unwilling to meet high asking price. Normal in early negotiations.

    Yeah, thanks. That confirms what I said above. My guess is that the Spurs are willing to move Green, Mills, Anderson/Murray and two firsts for Westbrook. I'd really like Parker to be part of the package instead of Green for numerous reasons, but it is what it is. That seems similar though still superior to what Memphis got for Gasol, so there's precedent there. I doubt that's the best package, but if the Spurs are willing to do that without an extension, I think it might be the one OKC is forced to go with.

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    This is like a Dutch auction, where the auctioneer starts at a high number and goes down until someone is finally willing to bid and take the prize.

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    What was too high for LAL? Russel, Ingram, and Randle?

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    OKC is asking for stars or star packages from everyone but they won't get it.

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    OKC is asking for stars or star packages from everyone but they won't get it.
    They probably won't but if they feel Westbrook will leave next summer, they are going to need to settle on a deal to not risk losing him for nothing.

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    OKC is asking for stars or star packages from everyone but they won't get it.
    And they'll get worse returns at the trade deadline. No one who can use Westbrook to his fullest capacity is going to pay big for a couple of months of his play.

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    They probably won't but if they feel Westbrook will leave next summer, they are going to need to settle on a deal to not risk losing him for nothing.
    I agree, but they have to do the progression, hence my Dutch auction comment. They're starting everyone high and slowly going lower. He'll still get traded.

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    Has this come up yet?

    per sources, Presti discussed Westbrook deals with several different teams (inc. SAS, MIL, LAL, BOS), but no middle ground was found.

    No? I hope it stays that way.
    Question- how did GSW work a deal with all those max deal players? Surely Durbeta, Seth, Green, Thompson, Iguodala, are getting paid a fortune.

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    Question- how did GSW work a deal with all those max deal players? Surely Durbeta, Seth, Green, Thompson, Iguodala, are getting paid a fortune.
    Curry's making $12 Million a year, and Draymond is making like $17 Million. And Iggy isn't of that caliber.

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    Question- how did GSW work a deal with all those max deal players? Surely Durbeta, Seth, Green, Thompson, Iguodala, are getting paid a fortune.
    Curry's making $12 Million a year, and Draymond is making like $17 Million. And Iggy isn't of that caliber.
    Next year will be very interesting for that team, especially with decrease in expected salary cap numbers. I guess they could be like the Cavs/Nets and just go overs and pay ridiculous amounts of Luxury tax for their own.

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    I wonder why presti included SA as one of the teams to trade WB to. I'd figure there are teams with way more to offer.

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    I wonder why presti included SA as one of the teams to trade WB to. I'd figure there are teams with way more to offer.
    Good question. Maybe he thought he could catch them during Pop/RC wine time... and get Kawhi.

    I think the SAS called him to inquire and he just mentioned them as one of the teams he talked with.

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    Curry's making $12 Million a year, and Draymond is making like $17 Million. And Iggy isn't of that caliber.

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    Presti really is an idiot if he's trying to leverage a team for their superstar or main guys. No one in the league is giving up significant pieces for a player who won't sign an extension. lol trying to play hard ball when you have no reason to. Russ is leaving no matter what imo, Presti better give up his idea of getting something of equal value or close to it in return because no one is gutting their team for someone who will be a FA in a year (except NYK lol)

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    I wonder why presti included SA as one of the teams to trade WB to. I'd figure there are teams with way more to offer.
    My guess is there's a good chance Westbrook could resign with those teams..in which maybe they'd give up more.

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    My guess is there's a good chance Westbrook could resign with those teams..in which maybe they'd give up more.
    He would really consider Mil? Interesting... I mean, I guess OKC isn't that far off.

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    My guess is there's a good chance Westbrook could resign with those teams..in which maybe they'd give up more.
    Why? Those teams could just get him next off-season without giving up anything. There is no need for anyone to give up anything significant unless Westbrook agrees to an extension. Presti is in a bad spot.

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