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Can't wait for the Lakers to draft Derrick Coleman 2.0.
You don't get to spout nonsense, act high and mighty like you can't be wrong and expect not to be called out. Grow up.
If you were here to learn it would be different. You're not. You're here to act like an idiot.
Can't wait for the Lakers to draft Derrick Coleman 2.0.
again who were the stars we missed out on Oakafor? Rodney hood? Please.
Spur fan wanted us to draft the poor man's Al Jeff last year ...
And they somehow managed to do worse.
except you did not draft Kobe you traded for his pick
Very true. I want to blame both Jim and Mitch. However, I can't deny that Mitch has done well in the past and I don't want to bevy any of the finger pointing at him just yet. I don't know the inner workings inside Lakerland and what transpires behind closed doors. So my hard line stance is one of a lack of patience in inep ude. I hope that we do become compe ive. That we make the effort to build forward instead of hoping for the home run that we've had in the past. You're spot-on with the account of our fanbase. The ludicrous belief that we should get everyone whenever we choose to. Unfortunately, it isn't like that with how the kids are nowadays. It's about the "me" gratification and we're stuck in the glory days. Which, isn't all that bad, but to linger on and hope that we can just run back and re-tool like the old days is asinine. However, the NBA is the one sport that doesn't need pieces to generate success like the NFL. You can get one player whom may lead a transcendent move. Like you said, patience is a virtue lost on the majority of Laker fans. That is the price we are paying with the success that Dr. Buss gave us and its time to develop some patience.
Hes 19 man, give him another year or so to see if he can improve. If he scrubs it up next year, we will all shred him together.
to early to tell ...
But i know it's what YOU want ...
But that matters little to me ... it was a good day yesterday regardless.
Bitter es mad their ROFL 17 wins and no lotto pick posts/threads went to ...
I hear that Philly is def taking Simmons.
The thing that is crazy ...what other choice do we have?
LeBron is not coming.
Ditto Durant.
Whiteside, DD, Horford ...none of those guys are good enough to carry a young team to the play-offs.
Even if we get two of those guys we still miss the playoffs and have less ping pong balls
and on top all of that we will have to overpay to get them.
'eff that.
Keep building brick by brick.
Doesnt matter to me ..
A case can be made for both ...
plenty of experts prefer Ingram ...
More prefer Simmons ...
truff bomb
You answered yourself already.
David Robinson, Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, Kawhi Leonard, Goran Dragic, Leandro Barbosa, Luis Scola, Tiago Splitter, George Hill, Corey Joseph etc...
Yes. LeBron is on the wrong side of 30. Durant has durability issues. While it would be nice to have that "Marquee" player, it's not a guarantee that they'll hold up especially in those 2 stars' situation. They've put in sooo many miles on their bodies that they could be a s of what they once were. It's fool's gold to think they'll give us the ultra-star that we have grown accustomed to.
The mid-tier players you mentioned are nice pieces but they'll definitely won't lead us to a ring on their own. It has to be done naturally and by piece-by-piece. I'm glad that we'll at least get to see what the future holds. We said thanks to Kobe and now the next chapter is upon us. What that entails is anybody's guess. But if we can follow a recipe like the Celtics have done, then I don't mind it one bit.
Don't kill the messenger guys. Okafor finished 5th in ROY voting despite all the negative off court stuff he did. D'Bust didn't.
Also, as much of a headcase as Okafor has the potential to be, he didn't snitch out his teammates.
That's not rebuilding through the draft unless you think Eddie Jones, Nick Van Exel and Derrick Fisher were the missing pieces. Maybe HIV himself coming back? I don't consider that rebuilding through the draft. If you just mean adding pieces, every team has done that but the conversation was regarding whether the Lakers would reload or rebuild so you're talking about reloading I think.
As he should have he did put up better numbers and god bless him ...
Did Kiwi win ROY?
How about Steph curry?
Russell Westbrook?
Kyle Lowry?
All those guys still playing outperforming guys drafted ahead of them and Im pretty sure lessor players finished higher in ROY voting.
It's not about missing out on stars - you can only draft who's there and if there are no stars, you just want the best you can. But I think in last year's draft alone, there could easily be 5-7 players that have better careers than Russell (although time will tell obviously):
Okafor
Prozingis
Winslow
Booker
Hezjona
Mudiay
Turner
They may not, but I agree there were no stars (most likely) other than KAT. But is Russell going to be an above average player? Perhaps - my point was not to judge right now but make a point. You better not miss in the lottery and there are a lot of questions about Russell & Julius at the moment.
Instead of Julius, LA could have had a few guys that look better as well.
Lakers recent drafts would be fine in a non corrosive environment. The retirement poison that the Buss family pushed on the team for the last 3 years really stunted the growth of the franchise and young players. Bringing in that many head coaches in a short period of time was too disruptive. Even a bad head coach is better than 3 or 4 decent ones when you keep switching loyalties and systems every few months.
Why should he have a higher ROY vote count than the 2nd pick as a 3rd pick?
Oh sure, problem is that:
1) Kyrie Irving won RoY over Kawhi. Kyrie's still a huge talent. Not to mention Kawhi finished 4th that year, despite being on a winning team and not getting a lot of room to shine. D'Bust was/is on a team that can showcase him as much as he wants.
2) Blake Griffin won in place of Curry. Not to mention Curry had a 0.77ws/48 vs. 0.01 for D'Bust.
3) Rose won RoY, and later MVP. He could still have been elite if it wasn't for injuries.
4) Roy won the RoY that year. Again, if it wasn't for injuries, Roy would still be elite.
Still, we are digressing, the point is, the Lakers can't develop young talent, part of that could be the environment, but I question an organization who clearly put having a circus (short term financial gain) above creating a winning environment (long term stability and success).
ROY votes as valid criteria ...
nicknames like a bottom tier poster
Captain Obvious statements "I question an organization ..." no , Laker fans question the we have done lately starting with the horrid coaching choices.
Besides trying to draw me in a debate what great insight did we gain from the above?
and dont think I didnt get the mention of the player you stick in every conversation btw
Injuries are besides the point ...
the point is you dont judge a draft one year in ..
I would bet a paycheck that KAT will be better than Porzy who i think will be injury prone but I have no way of knowing that for sure, one year in. Maybe Porzy is Dirk 2.0.
Point is curry when drafted no one thought he would win back2bck MVP's which is why only fools judge drafts definitively after the first year ...
Not saying you cant make some initial judgments ...I do claim victory that I was right about KAT but I have no idea if he will be as good as I think he will be.
The problem with the "you never know" stuff is that while Curry did something amazing, there are 100's of others on the other side of the equation .
I agree, patience should be required, but again I think LA fans are going to have to learn (and hope the FO learns) what it takes to build a team when you don't dominate FA over everyone. The problem is, not only has LA been really bad for 3 years, they don't really have anything major to show for it.
At the same time LA has been bad, SA has been great and SA still somehow has better young talent & top end talent to continue being compe ive for 3-4 more years???
Again SAS or state is dumb bar to set for this Laker team currently ....
Outside of kiwi there isnt a young player on SAS that I am definitely taking over our young guys ...
Kyle Anderson, simmons etc.
But since you and Amb are lauding your player development ...shouldnt they be so much better?
The fact that many upstairs are hoping Clarkson goes to SA and are killing Slo-mo ...not sure I am buying what you are selling ... Oh and Boban
spurs will be better than the Lakers because of KL/Pop/RC/LMA not because Simmons or slomo are going to be anything special tbh.
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