Magic: ESPN 30 for 30 : That Magic Moment

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The ideas are endless, they're just now about to get around to Phi Slama Jama. They haven't touched a number of things actually.

Fair enough. Just think the Magic team wasn't necessary.

[Sean Cagney]

Good .

[ambchang]

Sixers picking Bradley but not C-Webb

and what was Skiles thinking, going at Shaq?

The magic actually officially drafted Webber, so he wasn't available when sixers picked. Hardaway was an unknown at that time, and Bradley was supposedly their rare talent who's a 7'6" centre with ball handling and agility, like a healthy Ralph Sampson

[lefty]

The magic actually officially drafted Webber, so he wasn't available when sixers picked. Hardaway was an unknown at that time, and Bradley was supposedly their rare talent who's a 7'6" centre with ball handling and agility, like a healthy Ralph Sampson

I meant Penny tbh

[UZER]

Orlando was the first team to do the over top, loud, annoying arena sound effects, music, etc. that every team does now.

[lefty]

Orlando was the first team to do the over top, loud, annoying arena sound effects, music, etc. that every team does now.

*Destruction sound

Shaquiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiille O'Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaal



From Penny Hardaway way way way way way






Swept for the 3rd straight year

[UZER]

*Destruction sound

Shaquiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiille O'Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaal



From Penny Hardaway way way way way way



Swept for the 3rd straight year

Exactly.

They were also the first team I can remember that got so much hype, unearned praise and love by the media when they hadn't even accomplished anything yet. It was the beginning of the new hype media in that level in sports.

[lefty]

Exactly.

They were also the first team I can remember that got so much hype, unearned praise and love by the media when they hadn't even accomplished anything yet. It was the beginning of the new hype media in sports.

Agreed

tbh if only those ers had a bench

Jeff Turner
Brooks Thompson
Donald Royal
Anthony Bowie
Tree pumpfaked Rollins

[Thread]

Exactly.

They were also the first team I can remember that got so much hype, unearned praise and love by the media when they hadn't even accomplished anything yet. It was the beginning of the new hype media in that level in sports.

Mark the spot, Thursday nite, 8:08 Phoenix time,,,Ooze made a cogent point.

Congratulations, you're now a man.

[baseline bum]

So much butthurt out of the Orlando GM in that do entary. He didn't want to pay Shaq and Jerry West did, I don't blame O'Neal for moving on to a franchise serious about winning. It was win-win anyways, Orlando fan didn't want to pay Shaq what he was worth so he got it elsewhere.

[lefty]

WTF happened to Pat Williams

He got so fat damn

[chunticakes]

Just watched it. I feel sad now.

[Thread]

WTF happened to Pat Williams

He got so fat damn

Was he the fellow that was running the Sixers and his younger brother got caught stealing out of the player's locker safes during half time?

[Killakobe81]

WTF happened to Pat Williams

He got so fat damn

Lol i barely recognized him

[TampaDude]

Orlando was the first team to do the over top, loud, annoying arena sound effects, music, etc. that every team does now.

They were trend setters. They set trends.

[140]

So much butthurt out of the Orlando GM in that do entary. He didn't want to pay Shaq and Jerry West did, I don't blame O'Neal for moving on to a franchise serious about winning. It was win-win anyways, Orlando fan didn't want to pay Shaq what he was worth so he got it elsewhere.

lol I was going to say he needed professional help to get over the whole thing since he was literally shaking when talking about it but after a quick google search I discovered he has parkinson's

[daslicer]

lol I was going to say he needed professional help to get over the whole thing since he was literally shaking when talking about it but after a quick google search I discovered he has parkinson's

Wow I figured he had Parkinsons disease without looking it up. But I have to laugh at the others who didn't know he had the diseases and just thought he was being butthurt over Shaq leaving.

[baseline bum]

Wow I figured he had Parkinsons disease without looking it up. But I have to laugh at the others who didn't know he had the diseases and just thought he was being butthurt over Shaq leaving.

I meant he sounded butthurt when he all over Shaq's agent, and claimed he was trying to steer O'Neal to LA all along. He didn't want to pay the man and he lost him for it.

[daslicer]

I meant he sounded butthurt when he all over Shaq's agent, and claimed he was trying to steer O'Neal to LA all along. He didn't want to pay the man and he lost him for it.

I do agree with that assessment. Orlando's GM tried to get Shaq for a cheap discount and failed. His biggest mistake was not giving into Shaq's demands right away.

[Capt Bringdown]

Enjoyed the show. There definitely was wild expectations (deservedly so) about the Magic back then.
Nick Anderson's missed FT's brought about the most dramatic reversal of fortune that I've ever seen in basketball.

[dbreiden83080]

Really good, I watched it a few times and recorded it. Penny had such a sad career for his level of talent. Really could have been one of the all time great players..

[dbreiden83080]

I do agree with that assessment. Orlando's GM tried to get Shaq for a cheap discount and failed. His biggest mistake was not giving into Shaq's demands right away.

I guess in fairness he was not the best center in the league yet. They lost badly in the finals and he was outplayed, now 1 year later he is demanding to be the highest paid player. Plus the Bulls came back to whack them in the playoffs just before the contract talk..

[daslicer]

I guess in fairness he was not the best center in the league yet. They lost badly in the finals and he was outplayed, now 1 year later he is demanding to be the highest paid player. Plus the Bulls came back to whack them in the playoffs just before the contract talk..

At that time only David Robinson and Olaujuwon were better than Shaq. Just by doing future projections you could tell even back then that Shaq was going to be the best center in the league pretty soon. Even with the bulls sweeping the Magic it was safe to say that the bulls would be dominant for only a few more years and then fade away due to aging. The magic's GM miscalculated Shaq's value and made a huge mistake.

[dbreiden83080]

At that time only David Robinson and Olaujuwon were better than Shaq. Just by doing future projections you could tell even back then that Shaq was going to be the best center in the league pretty soon. Even with the bulls sweeping the Magic it was safe to say that the bulls would be dominant for only a few more years and then fade away due to aging. The magic's GM miscalculated Shaq's value and made a huge mistake.

I guess there take was "We will make you the highest paid player, when you actually are the best player"? Not unfair IMO. Sadly I think Penny breaks down no matter what, and he never rings in Orlando..

[daslicer]

I guess there take was "We will make you the highest paid player, when you actually are the best player"? Not unfair IMO. Sadly I think Penny breaks down no matter what, and he never rings in Orlando..

Yeah they had an old school way of thinking when it came to the contract situation whereas today you get the max as long as you are one of the top players at your position.