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    This started with the first Gulf War, which was justified to liberate Kuwait.
    Apparently, the US representative "hinted" that US wouldn't do anything if Saddam took Kuwait. If that were true, it was a neocon setup of Saddam to lure him into getting attacked by USA.

    Apart from the WTC basement bombing in 2001, what other Muslim terrorist attacks were there on US soil?

    Actually, the US/UK BigOil started when CIA/UK overthrew Mossadegh in 1953 (yep, for oil), installed the brutal dictator Shah for 25 years, which lead directly to Iranian revolution and Tehran US embassy takeover. Pushback against US imperialism is a , ain't it?

    And OBL said he attacked WTC because US military stayed to occup Saudi sands after the 1st Gulf War.

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    Poor choice Marco
    he really didn't say anything like that. I listened to the interview.

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    Ok then, if it's only 'scorekeeping', I expect NOT to see Fox News or Trump try to angle this in anyway towards Islam, and instead expect them to talk about gun laws instead.
    Why just gun laws when this is a terroristic attack.

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    i'd like to wait for all the facts before blaming this on religion and getting into gun debates. apparently this guy was a us citizen, had a license to carry and supported the NYPD. i read he got into a shootout with law enforcement then retreated to the club where he went on the killing spree. 50 lives lost due to a senseless act of crime smh.



    its been a rough weekend in orlando

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    Apparently, the US representative "hinted" that US wouldn't do anything if Saddam took Kuwait. If that were true, it was a neocon setup of Saddam to lure him into getting attacked by USA.

    Apart from the WTC basement bombing in 2001, what other Muslim terrorist attacks were there on US soil?

    Actually, the US/UK BigOil started when CIA/UK overthrew Mossadegh in 1953 (yep, for oil), installed the brutal dictator Shah for 25 years, which lead directly to Iranian revolution and Tehran US embassy takeover. Pushback against US imperialism is a , ain't it?

    And OBL said he attacked WTC because US military stayed to occup Saudi sands after the 1st Gulf War.
    Boots, the Saudis wanted/needed US intervention. Saddam was going for them next and OBL volunteered to bring his fighters to protect the Saudis, but the kingdom refused his help because they knew those fighters were no match for keeping Saddam out. OBL got offended and he blamed the US.

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    i'd like to wait for all the facts before blaming this on religion and getting into gun debates. apparently this guy was a us citizen, had a license to carry and supported the NYPD. i read he got into a shootout with law enforcement then retreated to the club where he went on the killing spree. 50 lives lost due to a senseless act of crime smh.



    its been a rough weekend in orlando
    But, what if he was gay, and got disgusted at the thought because of his religion?

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    Just heard, ing insane.

    And not a damn thing is gonna change
    You're right about that. Until the next episode, this is the new normal in America.

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    But, what if he was gay, and got disgusted at the thought because of his religion?
    then he should have renounced his faith or killed himself.

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    He wasn't gay. He was a murdering phobe.

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    OBL got offended and he blamed the US.
    OBL said, or wrote, or videoed that he attacked WTC because US boots were defiling sacred Saudi sands.

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    "Connections to ISIS" crofl. USA is so ing lame.

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    OBL said, or wrote, or videoed that he attacked WTC because US boots were defiling sacred Saudi sands.
    The Saudis wanted the US there and there was nothing sacred about Saudi or Riyadh. The only sacred land for Muslims is Mecca. OBL just that used reason as an excuse because he was offended that the kingdom found his fighters impotent against Saddam's army.

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    that clown got his hands on guns

    so how is the nra going to spin this? that the gay or patrons inside of that club shouldve armed themselves at a nightclub? lol

    i doubt a public premises would allowed patrons carry guns into a joint...

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    Unbelievable.

    Oh wait. Muslim you say?

    Never mind. Totally believable.

    Next comes the part where the left tries desperately to distance this from Islam and blame it all on gun owners.

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    Hey look, a radical Muslim.

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    that clown got his hands on guns

    so how is the nra going to spin this? that the gay or patrons inside of that club shouldve armed themselves at a nightclub? lol

    i doubt a public premises would allowed patrons carry guns into a joint...
    Then they will have to provide armed security if they want to avoid being a soft target.

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    Unbelievable.

    Oh wait. Muslim you say?

    Never mind. Totally believable.

    Next comes the part where the left tries desperately to distance this from Islam and blame it all on gun owners.
    What should we do about Muslims?

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    I'm surprised it wasn't a white male protestant per usual.

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    I'm going with mentally ill like all white mass shooters.

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    You're right about that. Until the next episode, this is the new normal in America.
    After Sandy Hook, I came to that realization. What was it? 27 kids killed in their school and nothing was really done in the aftermath. I live in VA where fairly close to VA. Tech, nothing has really changed. You'll see remembrances on the anniversary but not much else.

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    I'm going with mentally ill like all white mass shooters.
    Doesn't looks like it applies; but without fail, white shooters get labeled mentally ill, quiet, or misunderstood. Dylan Roof is a terrorist plain and simple.

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    You ignorant Trump supporters just don't see how beautiful this is...

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    Unbelievable.

    Oh wait. Muslim you say?

    Never mind. Totally believable.

    Next comes the part where the left tries desperately to distance this from Islam and blame it all on gun owners.
    Did you have the same sentiment for American white males during the Sandy Hook shooting, the Colorado theater shooting, the Louisiana theater shooting, the Planned Parenthood shooting, or the South Carolina church shooting?

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