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    Again, an average starter is going to get 15 mill & Biyombo PROVED he was better than an average starter while going up against QUALITY opponents. It's not like there is such a thing as fluke rim protection/rebounding, which are his assets. He is also as mobile as Tristan.

    A gamble would be paying someone like Biyombo based on his per 36 production when he's averaging 10 MPG like Ezeli.
    He might be. Or he might become an albatross b/c he can't shoot and he only plays well at home. And even if he is a rebounder and occassional shot blocker, some might expect more for $15 a year. I mean Parker was paid like $13 million last year and his 12 points and 5 assists weren't good enough. Biyombo was a bench player last year. As a starter, it wouldn't be shocking to see him average 6 points and 8 rebounds (what he averaged in the playoffs). At $15 million?

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    He might be. Or he might become an albatross b/c he can't shoot and he only plays well at home. And even if he is a rebounder and occassional shot blocker, some might expect more for $15 a year.
    Folks also EXPECTED Tristan to put up a double-double & called him a "bad contract" when he was doing all the dirty work unlike the albatross Kevin Love.

    I mean Parker was paid like $13 million last year and his 12 points and 5 assists weren't good enough.
    Porker at this point is an empty stat guy who is a defensive liability. He was a NET negative by essentially every advanced metric.

    Biyombo was a bench player last year. As a starter, it wouldn't be shocking to see him average 6 points and 8 rebounds (what he averaged in the playoffs). At $15 million?
    Tristan was also a backup who became a starter last postseason when Love got injured. He put up 8/9 this season 7/9 in the postseason so I guess he's a "bad contract". (Biyombo is a better defensive rebounder & rim protector)

    BTW, Ezeli is going to get at least 15 mill.

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    Conley has been trying to develop a reliable 3 pt shot for a decade:
    I realize that, but he's been playing for on of the tiest 3pt shooting teams in the NBA the whole time. Spurs are one of the best. Even Tony shoots 40% from three now.

    You know?

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    He might be. Or he might become an albatross b/c he can't shoot and he only plays well at home. And even if he is a rebounder and occassional shot blocker, some might expect more for $15 a year. I mean Parker was paid like $13 million last year and his 12 points and 5 assists weren't good enough. Biyombo was a bench player last year. As a starter, it wouldn't be shocking to see him average 6 points and 8 rebounds (what he averaged in the playoffs). At $15 million?
    Parker is a losing piece. A guy that play defense, rebound, and get easy baskets isn't. Parker would be fine if his defense wasn't awful.

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    I really hope the Spurs don't max this guy. i do like him, but i just don't see Mike as THAT much of an upgrade over Parker to justify 13m+ MORE a year over the next two years (and beyond). I'd rather ride with TP one more year and explore trading him next summer (or at this year's deadline if we struggle) when he's got a year left.

    When KD passes on us, I'd rather use the money on someone like Eric Gordon on a make-good deal.

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    Don't like it. His defense is overrated. He's injury prone, on the decline, and something of a playoff choker. He's never shot over 43% in a playoff series. I'd rather develop the draft pick. His size and style fit the new breed of point guard.

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    Said this in another topic, but anyways, I think Conley is a solid player, but no way do I want to max him out (especially with Parker's contract still being on the books). If he was willing to take a discount I'd maybe be more open to the idea, but I think that's unlikely and honestly even then I think there are probably better alternatives.

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    Said this in another topic, but anyways, I think Conley is a solid player, but no way do I want to max him out (especially with Parker's contract still being on the books). If he was willing to take a discount I'd maybe be more open to the idea, but I think that's unlikely and honestly even then I think there are probably better alternatives.
    This year's Max won't be next year's Max though. The cap is increasing steadily, which kind of helps, but I'd prefer else than Max as well. He is a great defensive pg and was able to shoot well from 3 while having no other legitimate shooting threat on the team. He's also not as old as his age would suggest, since the grizzlies play a slow game, and has been more on the big guys, and not much deep runs in the playoffs.

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    Don't like it. His defense is overrated. He's injury prone, on the decline, and something of a playoff choker. He's never shot over 43% in a playoff series. I'd rather develop the draft pick. His size and style fit the new breed of point guard.

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    I really hope the Spurs don't max this guy. i do like him, but i just don't see Mike as THAT much of an upgrade over Parker to justify 13m+ MORE a year over the next two years (and beyond). I'd rather ride with TP one more year and explore trading him next summer (or at this year's deadline if we struggle) when he's got a year left.

    When KD passes on us, I'd rather use the money on someone like Eric Gordon on a make-good deal.
    People complain about Conley being broken down at age 29 but want Gordon who is broken down, and purposely injuring himself year in and year out so he can get overpaid?? Ok.

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    People complain about Conley being broken down at age 29 but want Gordon who is broken down, and purposely injuring himself year in and year out so he can get overpaid?? Ok.
    One is a max contract type of guy, the other one is MLE at max.

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    People complain about Conley being broken down at age 29 but want Gordon who is broken down, and purposely injuring himself year in and year out so he can get overpaid?? Ok.
    "I want more money than I'm worth. You know how I'm going to get it? I'm going to keep getting hurt. They'll be lining up to give me the dough then." Easily the worst logic I've seen.

    One is a max contract type of guy, the other one is MLE at max.
    We'll be lucky if Gordon makes less than $10 Million this next season.

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    "I want more money than I'm worth. You know how I'm going to get it? I'm going to keep getting hurt. They'll be lining up to give me the dough then." Easily the worst logic I've seen.
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    Maybe what he meant to say is Gordon has only played in 417 of a possible 656 games over the past 8 seasons and hasn't played in more than 64 since his rookie season. I wouldn't want this kid to walk my dog for fear he might sprain his big toe let alone give him guaranteed money to sit in a suit behind the bench.

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    purposely injuring himself year in and year out so he can get overpaid?? Ok.

    Purposely injuring himself? In order to get overpaid? Seriously?

    Some days this place makes my brain hurt.

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    Maybe what he meant to say is Gordon has only played in 417 of a possible 656 games over the past 8 seasons and hasn't played in more than 64 since his rookie season. I wouldn't want this kid to walk my dog for fear he might sprain his big toe let alone give him guaranteed money to sit in a suit behind the bench.
    And that's why he's going to be underpaid, hopefully. The Spurs would have to hope that in a bench role and with veteran rest and all that that he'd be fine for a couple of seasons. I think he'll be okay once he gets out of NO.

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    Spurs drafting a PG is telling imo. i dont think they're going after Conley. if they miss out on Durant I would be happy if they could net Gasol and Batum imo. but since we were able to get a solid PG in the draft and spurs will never trade TP i don't see them seriously pursuing Conley

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    As for Gordon he is an intriguing bench option and he is definitely talented but he makes splitter look like LeBron when it comes to injuries

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    I like Conley but, I'd rather spend the same money he would get to get 2 players with some risk that might fit here...Lin and Gordon for instance...(don't get hung up on those two names because there are several combinations that would work)..

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    Au revoir tony.

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    As much sense as it makes to move Parker, that being true would completely take Conley off my list.

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    I like Conley but, I'd rather spend the same money he would get to get 2 players with some risk that might fit here...Lin and Gordon for instance...(don't get hung up on those two names because there are several combinations that would work)..
    I agree, I would rather check out players like J Clarkson (restricted?), Jennings, or Augustin.

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    Can't say that I blame him, just the thought of Parker banging your wife would cause you to have serious worries about Parker.

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