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    Makes sense from an incoming starter perspective as well as financial perspective. This is why you would hope if Spurs go this route, it might be for a S&T with TP going to Grizz.

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    People complain about Conley being broken down at age 29 but want Gordon who is broken down, and purposely injuring himself year in and year out so he can get overpaid?? Ok.

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    how the is conley a max player?
    He isn't. Heck he wasn't even that good last season.

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    Can't say that I blame him, just the thought of Parker banging your wife would cause you to have serious worries about Parker.

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    i bet that's the only issue he has in regards to joining the team.

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    i bet that's the only issue he has in regards to joining the team.
    And that issue can be resolved quickly with a Sign and Trade for Parker.

    Spurs have let go of Avery Johnson when he was a pillar in the San Antonio community for 8+ years when he became a free agent in 01'.

    They have traded Bowen when he was declining.

    Not many remember either, but Spurs were willing to let Robinson walk in summer of 01' when Robinson didn't want to take a pay-cut for them to afford C-Webb. If Webber would have came to San Antonio ( which he almost did), Robinson would have been a Maverick -- he visited them and Cuban offered him the money he wanted. Spurs were willing to let Robinson go then.

    Given those scenarios that did happen, I wouldn't be surprised to see Spurs trade Parker back to Memphis in a sign and trade for Conley.

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    And that issue can be resolved quickly with a Sign and Trade for Parker.

    Spurs have let go of Avery Johnson when he was a pillar in the San Antonio community for 8+ years when he became a free agent in 01'.

    They have traded Bowen when he was declining.

    Not many remember either, but Spurs were willing to let Robinson walk in summer of 01' when Robinson didn't want to take a pay-cut for them to afford C-Webb. If Webber would have came to San Antonio ( which he almost did), Robinson would have been a Maverick -- he visited them and Cuban offered him the money he wanted. Spurs were willing to let Robinson go then.

    Given those scenarios that did happen, I wouldn't be surprised to see Spurs trade Parker back to Memphis in a sign and trade for Conley.
    Difference is Avery and D Rob were free agents and there was a rumor Pop and Bruce had a falling out of some sorts. Trading Parker would be harder to do especially if Tim and Manu come back. I don't see Pop pulling that kind of move. He can't even dump Bonner, FFS.

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    And that issue can be resolved quickly with a Sign and Trade for Parker.

    Spurs have let go of Avery Johnson when he was a pillar in the San Antonio community for 8+ years when he became a free agent in 01'.

    They have traded Bowen when he was declining.

    Not many remember either, but Spurs were willing to let Robinson walk in summer of 01' when Robinson didn't want to take a pay-cut for them to afford C-Webb. If Webber would have came to San Antonio ( which he almost did), Robinson would have been a Maverick -- he visited them and Cuban offered him the money he wanted. Spurs were willing to let Robinson go then.

    Given those scenarios that did happen, I wouldn't be surprised to see Spurs trade Parker back to Memphis in a sign and trade for Conley.

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    Difference is Avery and D Rob were free agents and there was a rumor Pop and Bruce had a falling out of some sorts. Trading Parker would be harder to do especially if Tim and Manu come back. I don't see Pop pulling that kind of move. He can't even dump Bonner, FFS.
    Yup. Parker ain't getting moved unless he asks for it. And considering he wants to retire a Spurs, I just don't see it happening. Now if Tim/Manu/Pop all decided to hang em up, maaaaybe we're having a different conversation.

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    Actually, didn't we have a trade all worked out for C-Webb straight up for DROB, but Webb reneged at last minute?

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    Yup. Parker ain't getting moved unless he asks for it. And considering he wants to retire a Spurs, I just don't see it happening. Now if Tim/Manu/Pop all decided to hang em up, maaaaybe we're having a different conversation.
    He's asked for it. Maybe not explicitly. But he's asked for it alright.

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    In before Porker's ballwashers find a way to blame Kawhi for Porker's cancerous, free-agent-alienating ways.

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    In before Porker's ballwashers find a way to blame Kawhi for Porker's cancerous, free-agent-alienating ways.
    Not Parker's fault. But it's time to say, "au revoir Fatty".

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    He's asked for it. Maybe not explicitly. But he's asked for it alright.
    haha... I think people on this forum go waaay overboard with the TP stuff most of the time.

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    haha... I think people on this forum go waaay overboard with the TP stuff most of the time.
    Probably. But a lot of people called it back when he got that contract. And now it's all coming to fruition.
    It's severely limiting the Spurs options this offseason. And at a time when all of the other contenders have a tier 1 PG.

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    Difference is Avery and D Rob were free agents and there was a rumor Pop and Bruce had a falling out of some sorts. Trading Parker would be harder to do especially if Tim and Manu come back. I don't see Pop pulling that kind of move. He can't even dump Bonner, FFS.

    Letting go in Free Agency & trading is essentially the same damn thing with what we are talking about -- going into another direction when they have declined no matter how much they've given the team and city.

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    Probably. But a lot of people called it back when he got that contract. And now it's all coming to fruition.
    It's severely limiting the Spurs options this offseason. And at a time when all of the other contenders have a tier 1 PG.
    I get that.. I also know he sort of had it owed to him for when he was in his prime years. So I really don't have too much an issue with it. We just won it all 2 years ago, and didn't have LMA/Kawhi (at the level he is now)

    I think what's more important is beefing up our front court to deal with the Adams/Kanters of the world. They hurt us far more than their back court did. At least with TP, you can throw him on a Roberson or on a Harrison Barnes, etc... Also improving our 3 point shooting will help immensely.

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    if the knicks were willing to pay for rose they would've paid for parker.

    that was a place i could see him not minding to go. a big market. that's off the list now.

    what about chicago, are they in the market for a starting pg now? i could imagine him being okay with going there. big market and he has some ties to the city, right? i know the bulls are cheap though.

    i could also see him being okay with toronto.

    can't imagine the spurs sign and trading with memphis. i'd be all for it though.

    i wonder if the spurs bring up moving tp like we moved splitter last summer to make room to conley. one can hope.

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    Is Conley worried he'll be Tony's backup or something?

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    Letting go in Free Agency & trading is essentially the same damn thing with what we are talking about -- going into another direction when they have declined no matter how much they've given the team and city.
    Well no cause AJ and DRob had the choice to take less money to play here or leave. The Spurs didn't owe them anything. IMO, I think if Parker was a free agent this summer, he would have taken a paycut to continue playing here. But the reality is the Spurs owe him 30 million in the next 2 years. They can't waive him and bring him back for less. They have to trade him. And I just don't see that happening unless it's guaranteed both Tim and Manu retire (now that's a completely different story).

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    I have no interest in Conley anymore unless Parker gets traded. Time to upgrade at the SG and C position now.

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    I get that.. I also know he sort of had it owed to him for when he was in his prime years. So I really don't have too much an issue with it. We just won it all 2 years ago, and didn't have LMA/Kawhi (at the level he is now)

    I think what's more important is beefing up our front court to deal with the Adams/Kanters of the world. They hurt us far more than their back court did. At least with TP, you can throw him on a Roberson or on a Harrison Barnes, etc... Also improving our 3 point shooting will help immensely.
    I don't disagree with any of that. But I think the loyalty ends with the contract. He's getting paid whether he's in SA or elsewhere.

    Spurs have a lot of needs which you touched on. All of those would be easier to meet without the $15,000,000.

    That being said, I guess it doesn't make a lot of sense to max out Conley even if Parker is gone. But at this point, I'd much rather have Conley for max than Parker for 15. But for the long term, Conley could turn out to be a new albatross.

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    Is Conley worried he'll be Tony's backup or something?
    He's worried that the ole drunkard will run with Parker when it matters the most which is usually the scenario these past few seasons. The only way the Spurs get a legit break from is when Parker is getting eaten alive and fakes an injury so he can sit on the bench.. That's the only hope.

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    He's worried that the ole drunkard will run with Parker when it matters the most which is usually the scenario these past few seasons. The only way the Spurs get a legit break from is when Parker is getting eaten alive and fakes an injury so he can sit on the bench.. That's the only hope.
    This is seriously why we haven't gotten past anyone these last 2 years.

    Imagine if Tony doesn't get injured in game 6 OKC?

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    He's worried that the ole drunkard will run with Parker when it matters the most which is usually the scenario these past few seasons. The only way the Spurs get a legit break from is when Parker is getting eaten alive and fakes an injury so he can sit on the bench.. That's the only hope.
    IDK. Tony could be attacked by a shark that bites off one of his legs. But then he becomes a spokesman for amputees and does lots of great things along those lines.

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