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    Interesting thread on why conservatives like Thatcher, Heath and Macmillan supported joining the EEC in the 1970s, and how the debate then was more forthright about the stakes than it is now.


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    *there is no way anyone could have seen this coming*





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    How dare you bump this thread as

    non-European
    Last edited by FrostKing; 12-21-2020 at 05:32 AM.

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    How dare you bump this thread as

    non-European
    sorry this is happening to you.

    do you need a lolly?


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    GB totally fdup.

    They are an economic mess. any Trump stirrers wanting to leave the country please go there.

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    Irish Sea border, Brexiteers said it would never happen


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    Scotland to secede?

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    Scotland to secede?
    I'd be surprised if Scotland doesn't give it a go. Irish reunification also looks like a live possibility.

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    Last quote from the article basically says it all

    We're now going to see the €80b (£71.2bn) worth of trade across the Irish Sea between Britain and Ireland disrupted by an awful lot more checks and declarations, and bureaucracy and paperwork, and cost and delay."

    you want your freedom from the highly oppressive EU, here you go, here’s your freedom.

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    Last quote from the article basically says it all

    We're now going to see the €80b (£71.2bn) worth of trade across the Irish Sea between Britain and Ireland disrupted by an awful lot more checks and declarations, and bureaucracy and paperwork, and cost and delay."

    you want your freedom from the highly oppressive EU, here you go, here’s your freedom.
    Its also an open invitation to smuggling and organized crime. Maybe England will try to turn NI into a gangster state, to create a pretext for a permanent UK security presence.

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    Its also an open invitation to smuggling and organized crime. Maybe England will try to turn NI into a gangster state, to create a pretext for a permanent UK security presence.
    they want that problem again?
    I’m sure people in London would love more trouble in Ireland so they can again experience subway bombing. But who knows what the conservatives that are Brexiters want. When you deal with this type of paranoia I guess you don’t know what you’re going to get

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    Much like their Trumpist counterparts across the Atlantic, all Brexit supporters care is that they won and their opponents lost. Exactly what they won and how it will benefit them or anyone else is beside the point.

    Losing financial "passporting" rights for UK financial services is a big blow. Every company has either had to set up or expand their presence in Frankfurt, Amsterdam, Paris or Dublin because that's how they will get access to the EU market. Slowly but surely the core work of managing assets and trading will also start to move over. London was neck-and-neck with NY as the global hub of finance, but that won't be the case going forward.

    If I'm a global manufacturing business like Nissan, Toyota, etc why will I choose the UK to build my next generation of electric vehicles?

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    81,000 UK-owned .eu domains suspended as Brexit transition ends

    The UK lost its right to a .eu website when it left the European bloc, leaving many domain name owners in limbo.

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/81000-...ansition-ends/

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    Sounds trite, but food shortages are no joke. The UK is already hurt badly by Brexit, it won't get better anytime soon.


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    Edwin Poots. Talking about a gravy shortage. Seriously.

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    Brexit:

    'I was asked to pay an extra £82 for my £200 coat'


    "I had no idea at all I was going to be charged any more for deliveries after Brexit. The extra costs were definitely a bit of a shock."

    She was surprised when she then received a text from courier company DPD, containing a link asking her to pay £58 in customs duties, VAT and additional charges for her £180 order.


    On top of that, the UPS courier for the second parcel showed up at her door several days later, asking for an extra payment of £82 for her £200 coat.

    These charges, imposed by new government rules, have to be collected by the courier firms on the authorities' behalf.

    "I didn't even know when the parcels would be coming -

    so I sent both back without paying the extra fees and

    won't be ordering anything from Europe again any time soon,"

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55734277

    Conservative MISgovernment.

    The UK gulled by a racist xenophobe financed by a businessman with Russian connections, and Russian wife.

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    Edwin Poots. Talking about a gravy shortage. Seriously.
    The food there is anyways except for foreign food in London.
    Cold meat and a starch. A pie made of soggy crust and coagulated blood.
    They are seriously bad cooks. That British bake off show is a microcosm of what those poor bas s eat on the whole.

    And yes its a generalization. But too many small poor towns and no wonder they drink so much, you dont want to taste what you are eating.

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    It was, hopefully is, easy to get good cheese. Thats about it imo.

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    AEP blames Germany in the Tory Telegraph


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    Congrats America, You’re Not the Dumbest Country in The World Anymore. Britain Is.

    How Incompetence, Malice, Greed, and Stupidity Left Britain A Smoking Shattered Wreck

    Britain’s story these days is somewhere between tragicomedy and farce. Let me give you three examples — of what it means for a society to self-destruct, by way of idiocy, greed, recklessness, and inep ude.

    The EU wasn’t just Britain’s friend:

    Britain is a tenth the size of the EU, economically and demographically.

    You don’t just “leave” a union and market ten times bigger than you, without catastrophic consequences, like trade stopping, investment ceasing, unemployment ing, prices soaring, and shortages happening.

    So we economists
    warned all this was, well, suicidal lunacy.

    But something had broken in the minds of British people.

    They didn’t believe it.

    They believed adorable but dangerously misinformed old conservative idiots with names like Lord Ducky Crumpets-Walpole,

    who themselves didn’t have the faintest clue as to what “breaking up with your closest ally in the world, who’s ten times bigger than you” really meant.

    The reality of Brexit is much, much worse than we economists warned about.

    It goes like this.

    The British economy is starting to shut down like a heart attack.


    Europe is simply
    stopping sending goods to Britain, and Britain to Europe.

    The costs involved have soared from “nothing” to “impossible.”

    British people are shocked, suddenly — after voting for Brexit — to discover that

    ordering stuff from Europe, which used to be as simple as a click,

    now comes with
    massive taxes, customs, and su ious “handling charges,”

    https://eand.co/congrats-america-you...s-badad4d64754

    Pootin is laffing his ass off. Farage, etc LIED decrepit Britain out of Europe.

    Europe is weaker, so Russia is stronger, Britain is ed.



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    53 Tons of Rotting Pork and Other Brexit Nightmares

    With Britain out of the European Union, companies that trade with the continent are contending with expensive disruptions to their businesses and a plunge in exports.

    Britain is struggling to adapt to its new position in the global economy —

    its fortunes still tethered to the European Union;

    its companies on the outside.

    the revival of

    customs procedures,
    health and safety checks,
    value-added taxes on imports, and
    other time-consuming, commerce-limiting hindrances.

    Businesses across Britain are now contending with paralyzing confusion and unfamiliar bureaucratic hurdles.

    Paperwork snafus, customs horrors and other expensive disruptions are intensifying the strains on an
    economy that was already reeling from the pandemic.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/12/world/europe/brexit-britain-trade.html

    And Pootin loves how he has degraded Europe's quality of life, unity.
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    The Growing Pains of Brexit, 50 Days In

    The crucial services exports,

    manufacturing exports and imports,

    the arts & entertainment industry,

    fishing industry…

    it’s a mess.


    https://wolfstreet.com/2021/02/23/the-growing-pains-of-brexit-so-to-speak-50-days-in/

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