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Another good game. 2 in a row now.
Gotta keep it up.
Nice game tonight. Lonnie is being aggressive more also👍🏾
Another good game. 2 in a row now.
Gotta keep it up.
Lonnie reverting back to old form. Wrong thread.
Another solid game tonight. You gotta love this kid, you can tell he wants to be the best and be a leader. His jumper looks smooth too and he’s hit some big threes in the last couple of games. You can tell he’s starting to put it all together, just needs the consistency.
What? No way. Swear some of y'all haven't been watching the games.
Lonnie tonight was uncharacteristically active off-ball, making at least 2 timely pokes that lead to those (badly executed) fastbreak opportunities, almost back-to-back. He was also looking for his shot, something that was actively missing all of last season - have people here forgotten that Lonnie used to fade into the background, spot up in the corner for 3-4 consecutive possessions on end, and never touch the ball? I'm not seeing much of that this season. Lonnie is either fighting for rebounds, then bringing the ball up, or spotting up on the wing for shots - where I have to say (since I really haven't seen it mentioned in ST at all) that his ability to open up himself has gotten better. He's NOTICEABLY improved his following of the ball-handler through their penetration, and now actively moves on the perimeter to follow him and make himself open, should the pass come - a stark contrast to last seasons' stand-in-the-corner approach. A very underrated aspect of NBA shooters is knowing how to make yourself open, tbh, and I see Lonnie improving in this area.
He definitely needs to learn how to make better decisions on the fast break. But that's easier than having to learn how to be active enough on D to force a fast break in the first place... Baby steps, tbh, we're seeing these guys develop in real time now, with no off-season and little training camp to be had.
I have been giving DJM tough love. He has done all the things I have said he needs to do to be effective.
Better ball protection and decision making
Improved 3 point shooting
Using that crossover dribble rise up for the 12 to 15 foot jumper which is really hard to defend and make it. Good for you DJM.
He should train with Becky every offseason, tbh
Man, his jumper looks great and he's starting to use his crossover to get separation. He didn't make of his normal mistakes either against Minny (i.e dead-end drives to the rim, careless dribbling that causes him to get stripped etc).
Looked good tbh
Nonchalant = / = back to old form. To me, old form is the Lonnie of last year, who completely disappeared for quarters on end, standing still in the corner waiting for passes that never came. I haven't seen that much this season, and definitely not in that game you're quoting my comment from - though it's obvious that he could've played better, more aggressive, and he did last night. It's not a black-and-white thing, especially with someone like him.
Reverting =/= back to old form. He said it, must be significant enough to lose sleep over. You argue with him.
No problem, it's semantics at best, not worth much debate. I only hope he keeps being as aggressive as he was last game, tbh.
Season Player Age Tm Lg Pos G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 2006-07 TP3 24 SAS NBA PG 77 77 32.5 7.4 14.2 0.52 0.2 0.5 0.395 7.2 13.7 0.525 0.527 3.6 4.5 0.783 0.4 2.8 3.2 5.5 1.1 0.1 2.5 1.8 18.6 2020-21 Dejounte 24 SAS NBA PG 16 16 30.5 6.1 13.6 0.452 1 3.3 0.302 5.1 10.3 0.5 0.488 1.6 1.9 0.806 0.8 6.1 6.9 5.1 1.4 0.1 1.7 2.1 14.8
The numbers keep rising for DJ. It's almost matching / exceeding TP3's numbers at the same age of 24.
Would you happen to have per 48 stats to compare?
you can also change to do by number of season (aka 4th year in league)
https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_...&p2yrfrom=2021
It appears that DJM's BBIQ has had a significant jump this year. Many on this board opined that BBIQ was an area that you either had or didn't. One measure of BBIQ has to be Assist/Turnover ratio. Murray is sitting at 3.375 right now putting him the top 10 of point/combo guards that play over 20 minutes a game. Interestingly one of the guards ahead of him is Patty Mills at 3.75. This is up from a roughly 2 to 1 ratio last year--a huge improvement. It remains to be seen, but his play is making a strong argument that White should come off the bench when he returns. More so than Keldon, Vassel or IV this is the biggest pleasant surprise for the team this season.
I agree that's the most impressive thing about his development this year. He said he worked with the assistants on his decision making during the offseason, which sounds crazy cause it's something that you can't really train, but he somehow did exactly that. I guess they ran some 5 on 5 drills with him where he had to focus on making the right play. Super impressive improvement
Where does this idea that players BBIQ isn't something that improves come from? It's just not true. How many times have you seen a coach talking about a 2nd or 3ed year guy saying "the game has slowed down for him"? The improvement comes from 5 on 5 floor time with appropriate level athletes; you get a feel for what you can expect the opposition and your team mates can (and will) do...
and after watching hours of playing tape on the opposition.
DJ has been such a good scholar of the game. The thing that frustrates people in the past was him overtalking about what he was going to do, instead of just showing it on the court. I guess Spurs fans were not used to that, with the Big 3 just tight lips. But DJ puts pressure on himself, but I guess it's okay for him. He compares himself with Kobe. That's great and he's trying to back it up.
Added Derrick's lone season as a starter for comparison
DJ's year over year improvement has me believing he'll continue to put up good numbers this season. His BBIQ has shown improvement, and that's something that should only get better with more time and experience.
Murray's next area of improvement is significantly improving his FT rate. He's taking less than 2 per game while playing north of 30.5 mpg, that's not good. Should be around 4.5 per game tbh. Some of that is his shot selection: shooting open 3's taking pull up jumpers and attacking in transition.
There really isn't a lot of aggressive drives, with the goal of scoring, in the half-court so it's been harder to draw shooting fouls-- though he's improved his drive and kick game.
I still don't like White coming off the bench (once fully healthy) tbh. If he ever returns to bubble-White then he's the best player on the team. Also Murray and White are being paid as though their the starting backcourt of the future, they'll have to gain experience playing together even if it's a bit awkward on the court. Walker's likely future role is going to be a microwave scorer on the bench, might as well get him experience in that role too.
Murray-White-Johnson-DeRozan-Aldridge
Mills-Vassell-Walker-Gay-Poeltl
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